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Minsu 02-01-2014 01:34 PM

Life of a Daily Driven Z in Crap Roads And **** Ton of Snow
 
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So Im just writing to describe how i feel about daily driving the Z.
Us being hit with a crap ton of snow for a crap ton of weeks made it hard for me to drive my car. In the snow even if there is an inch of snow and your on stock tires, you arent getting ANYWHERE and i mean anywhere. Once the snow starts to melt and you start gaining traction it gets a little bit better. The road noise doesnt bother me too much, most of the time i have music playing anyways. Now as all of you may know with the stock suspension you feel everything on the road and bumps turn into loud bangs and cracks turn into sounds you just can not ignore. The Two seats are a bit of a hassle sometimes if you are coming from a 5 seater car. You will invite your friends over and be like kk ill drive, then go outside to realize you only have 2 seats and this question comes up...Soo, whos getting in the trunk.
Here are some pics of my car in the winter salt and grime and after i cleaned it.
Also when it gets below ten degrees F, the clutch will most likely stick to the floor if you press on it but dont worry it will come back up, depress the clutch and kind of just run through your gears a couple of times to warm the gates.

Your stock tires in COLD weather will stutter as you reverse out or turn a corner at low speeds. The rubber gets hard as a rock and when your turning instead of the tired conforming to the road the cement like tires will try to force itself over the road causing stutter as your turn.

Try not to stomp on your gas pedal in cold weather even if you driven a while, your tires will spin out.
and.

VDC on.

geddy lee 02-01-2014 02:17 PM

I know how you feel. I am in Northern Delaware. I have a 2009 SP Magnetic Black that is now Magnetic White due to the salt. I think there is just about as much salt as snow at this point. I bought Conti DWS tires last year which made travel easier. I actually made it home in 3 inches of snow . I think the Z is one of the worst cars in the snow ever but still not as bad as the 350Z I had before that.

The BlueMax 02-01-2014 03:07 PM

DD Driving
 
I'm glad I don't have to drive mine in snow but last week my daughter's car had to go in the shop & I had to drive 2 days in the powered residue left over. That pissed me off a bit, I can't even imagine driving in the snow. I have always had a old backup vehicle since high school to take on the harsh elements.

gsxr750 02-01-2014 03:07 PM

Nissans have terrible corrosion resistance , I've owned them for 30 yrs and drove them yr round in New York. After about 5 yrs. the corrosion and rust get so bad from the road salt and moisture, you will start getting small pin holes appearing on certain panels and parts failure due to corrosion, even electrical parts and steering components.

The 370z is not the type of car you should use as a daily driver in a winter environment, like NYS or Jersey. You should really get a daily beater.

Get your Z up on a lift and see how bad it really is by now.

The BlueMax 02-01-2014 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2675302)
Nissans have terrible corrosion resistance , I've owned them for 30 yrs and drove them yr round in New York. After about 5 yrs. the corrosion and rust get so bad from the road salt and moisture, you will start getting small pin holes appearing on certain panels and parts failure due to corrosion, even electrical parts and steering components.

The 370z is not the type of car you should use as a daily driver in a winter environment, like NYS or Jersey. You should really get a daily beater.

Get your Z up on a lift and see how bad it really is by now.

I agree with gsxr750 its the accumulation over time that take it's toll

DLSTR 02-01-2014 03:24 PM

Get some winter tires. Dont put your car on the road in winter without the correct equipment. You are a danger to yourself and others. No excuse.

Ive driven mine 3 winters. Blizzaks on the winter wheels. I wash it once a week and its very clean on the underside. This is not rocket science.

onzedge 02-01-2014 03:46 PM

Why on earth would one even think that driving the 370Z in snow regularly is a good idea? It is beyond my comprehension.

Your observations on the perils of summer tires in near-freezing an below temperatures are quite astute though. Seriously? Summer tires in cold and snow are dangerous? Wow.

SterlingDrive 02-01-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 2675316)
Get some winter tires. Dont put your car on the road in winter without the correct equipment. You are a danger to yourself and others. No excuse.

Ive driven mine 3 winters. Blizzaks on the winter wheels. I wash it once a week and its very clean on the underside. This is not rocket science.

This is sound advice. I live in snow country also. With the right tires and a little maintenance the car will function fine, and is not being abused.

Good luck,

Sterling

DLSTR 02-01-2014 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SterlingDrive (Post 2675356)
This is sound advice. I live in snow country also. With the right tires and a little maintenance the car will function fine, and is not being abused.

Good luck,

Sterling

You should see the numbers of rear drive BMW's on the road here. Its a car and can be driven if required, in reasonable winter conditions. With the right equipment of course.

The OP reminds me why in the US winter tires should be mandatory(in some regions). Also here if you are not on winter tires and are in an accident you can possibly have your insurance cancelled for that event. Id say thats fair. Not prepared for the conditions? Why should we cover your stupidity.

somms 02-01-2014 04:28 PM

I've driven mine for two and a half winters in Boston. I have a set of winter michelin tires on dedicated winter wheels, 8 inches wide. I don't have spacers on it, but I should, the rear wheels are really sunk in.

Learned to drive in Anchorage, AK in an '85 4WD Nissan pickup truck. Switched to a Mazda 2WD B3000 in 2003. Finally got my Z in 2011 and haven't looked back.

I've never driven a modern sedan in the winter, but coming from a pickup truck, I can say without hesitation that a 370z with winter tires is a fine car as a daily winter driver. A good set of tires provide plenty of traction to start moving from a dead stop on snow, plenty of traction to make it up a snow covered hill if you're already moving. The electronic traction control and ABS brakes will pretty much prevent you from ever spinning out or sliding (unless you tell it to, that's easy enough). If you live in a modern, *northern* city, you never have to worry about snow clearance. The plows are out long before it gets deep on the roads themselves. I have private (unheated) garage parking, I can't say what it's like to have to dig out a Z from three feet of snow. I wouldn't want to do it.

I wash my car at least once a week, or more often as conditions and salt require. I always get the undercarriage wash. I get a detail and wax a couple of weeks before winter hits, and a detail and wax a couple of weeks after spring has started.

http://down.blissed.org:1372/~stucky/salty-z.jpg

nhbpcivicsi 02-01-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 2675250)
So Im just writing to describe how i feel about daily driving the Z.
Us being hit with a crap ton of snow for a crap ton of weeks made it hard for me to drive my car. In the snow even if there is an inch of snow and your on stock tires, you arent getting ANYWHERE and i mean anywhere. Once the snow starts to melt and you start gaining traction it gets a little bit better. The road noise doesnt bother me too much, most of the time i have music playing anyways. Now as all of you may know with the stock suspension you feel everything on the road and bumps turn into loud bangs and cracks turn into sounds you just can not ignore. The Two seats are a bit of a hassle sometimes if you are coming from a 5 seater car. You will invite your friends over and be like kk ill drive, then go outside to realize you only have 2 seats and this question comes up...Soo, whos getting in the trunk.
Here are some pics of my car in the winter salt and grime and after i cleaned it.
Also when it gets below ten degrees F, the clutch will most likely stick to the floor if you press on it but dont worry it will come back up, depress the clutch and kind of just run through your gears a couple of times to warm the gates.

Your stock tires in COLD weather will stutter as you reverse out or turn a corner at low speeds. The rubber gets hard as a rock and when your turning instead of the tired conforming to the road the cement like tires will try to force itself over the road causing stutter as your turn.

Try not to stomp on your gas pedal in cold weather even if you driven a while, your tires will spin out.
and.

VDC on.

Oh wait so that squeaky noise that the car makes when I make a turn into my driveway is normal? I thought something was up..

6MT-Z34 02-01-2014 05:46 PM

This is probably a dumb question but to wash the undercarriage do you guys lift the cars or what??

b15 02-01-2014 05:49 PM

I get that you have to drive the Z in the winter as having a second car may not be feasible, but why on earth are you driving on SUMMER tires in the WINTER?

Are you also wearing shorts and sandals right now?

Vazquez08 02-01-2014 06:00 PM

I'm in Maryland and left my car parked for the few days when we got snow here. Then school was coming up the next few days so I bought some Michellen xice and haven't had a problem since. I didn't even like driving when it was under 35 with those stock tires. Rear of the car was going every which way with the uneven roads. Worst I drove in so far was just some slush but no problems at all

somms 02-01-2014 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT-Z34 (Post 2675475)
This is probably a dumb question but to wash the undercarriage do you guys lift the cars or what??

Touchless automatic car wash.

6MT-Z34 02-01-2014 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by somms (Post 2675492)
Touchless automatic car wash.

Thanks! but I don't think there is any of those here in jersey :shakes head:

somms 02-01-2014 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT-Z34 (Post 2675501)
Thanks! but I don't think there is any of those here in jersey :shakes head:

If push comes to shove, I'll use a regular car wash with the winter wheels on it. Pretty much all of them offer undercarriage wash with a rust inhibitor. I don't have a nismo, so not worried about clearance. But the wheel tracks will scrape the sports package wheels. The winter tires have high sidewalls that clear the tracks.

Salt & rust vs having to buff out the swirls in the spring? I'll take having to buff it extra well.

6MT-Z34 02-01-2014 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by somms (Post 2675509)
If push comes to shove, I'll use a regular car wash with the winter wheels on it. Pretty much all of them offer undercarriage wash with a rust inhibitor. I don't have a nismo, so not worried about clearance. But the wheel tracks will scrape the sports package wheels. The winter tires have high sidewalls that clear the tracks.

Salt & rust vs having to buff out the swirls in the spring? I'll take having to buff it extra well.

Yeah I don't have a nismo either but I'm scare to put my car through those washes even with my winter setup lol

Minsu 02-01-2014 09:32 PM

yea it was a good 43 degrees today, so decided on tanktop and shorts
haha

d0ubts 02-01-2014 10:16 PM

Im in north jersey too and just got a nismo. My car looks like yours...except worse. I havent had time to order winter tires....so stock tires its been. Commuted every day from nj to manhattan and its not so bad. Cant wait to get this baby washed and detailed....undercarriage is a problem though cause igot the spoiler.

Know anywhere in jersey that does good window tints?

d0ubts 02-01-2014 10:17 PM

Sooo... 6mt and minsu... I think all 3 of us north jersey? Mini meet time when it gets warmer hahahaha

6MT-Z34 02-01-2014 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by d0ubts (Post 2675710)
Sooo... 6mt and minsu... I think all 3 of us north jersey? Mini meet time when it gets warmer hahahaha

Yeah I'm down for that!

If u find a good tint place let me know too lol

Minsu 02-02-2014 12:05 AM

Hooters, Route 4, Tuesday Night, all you can eat wings.

iErick1284 02-02-2014 08:10 AM

There's a place in Paterson that may do it. Lightmodz did my headlights (smoked out portions of it) but they also do vinyl wrapping so I don't see how they couldn't do window tints as well. They do good work.

d0ubts 02-02-2014 09:32 AM

Im too scared to go to paterson with my car... My two week old rays will be gone....hahaha. Ierock where u from in northern jersey? Minsu? 6mt? Im from fair lawn nj

Minsu 02-02-2014 09:35 AM

I'm in palisades park

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6MT-Z34 02-02-2014 10:52 AM

I'm from Cliffside Park

6MT-Z34 02-02-2014 11:03 AM

Check this thread guys:
http://www.the370z.com/north-east-re...ml#post2676235

Minsu 02-03-2014 11:45 AM

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One damn snow storm after another, I JUST washed the damn thing.

Masterbeatty 02-03-2014 12:17 PM

Where I live in ct. There are a few hills and even the slightest I can't really go up in light snow. But I just leave a bag of salt in the back with a full tank of gas and that works alright even with BFg all seasons. But this will be the only winter my Z see's as next year my wife will have a new car.

kittens 02-03-2014 01:07 PM

Same here i bought the z not even thinking about the winter. Next year I will be moving to a place with a garage and I will get a beater haha

kenchan 02-03-2014 01:12 PM

yah, im sure your Z's do fine with the LM60's, but hell mang... you guys are all sitting ducks waiting for someone to just smash into you. :eekdance:

well, at least thats how i felt the one winter i drove my modded G around with LM60's. car did fine. looked like shittt with sunken oem wheels and narrow tires, but she was functional. was it worth it? ABSOLUTELY NOT! :mad:

mults 02-03-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 2677394)
One damn snow storm after another, I JUST washed the damn thing.

If you just washed it, how come we don't see the snow beading :roflpuke2:?

I haven't seen mine since I stored it at a friend's heated garage last November, so I am living vicariously through other member's rides.

Even covered in snow, she still looks mighty fine :tiphat:. Just be careful in the snow...

J3nna370z 02-03-2014 07:27 PM

Seeing the stuff you guys deal with really make me appreciate living in AZ.


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ZeeBabar 02-03-2014 08:14 PM

Exaggerations
 
For most of the country, there may be between 5 snowfalls and maybe 25 snowfalls in winter. Usually, 1-2 days after it stos snowing, the roads are quite clear. I drive mine in winter, park it and take a cab or get a ride on the 5 or so days where the roads are a mess.

Otherwise, my car is just find and so are my summer tires on it. I just have to be careful. I just returned from a 120+ trip to St.Louis and at outside temps of around 20 degrees, I was cruising at 90 and took it up to 105 a stretch or two.

You can use it as a DD and enjoy the joy daily. Wash it more often, especially the under carriage at the local car wash.

Sure, the tire dealers and others could like you to use different tires all the time. If you live in the north/ northeast, you could put winter tires on it and drive.

Minsu 02-03-2014 11:09 PM

:gtfo2:...

Alchemy 02-08-2014 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2675333)
Why on earth would one even think that driving the 370Z in snow regularly is a good idea? It is beyond my comprehension.

Your observations on the perils of summer tires in near-freezing an below temperatures are quite astute though. Seriously? Summer tires in cold and snow are dangerous? Wow.

Ive been daily driving my Z this winter and what a winter its been here in NJ. Even when its dry its been soooo cold and summer tires + 5 degrees + punching 3rd or even 4th on the highway= SIDEWAYS. Don't even get me started on the snow. Cant count the number of days Ive taken off already.

d0ubts 02-08-2014 11:24 PM

Alchemy join us in the northern jersey thread! Lets plan a meet

onzedge 02-09-2014 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 2684416)
Ive been daily driving my Z this winter and what a winter its been here in NJ. Even when its dry its been soooo cold and summer tires + 5 degrees + punching 3rd or even 4th on the highway= SIDEWAYS. Don't even get me started on the snow. Cant count the number of days Ive taken off already.

Mr. Alchemy!!!

Where have you been?

Footloose301 02-09-2014 06:55 AM

I know how you guys feel. I drive my Z all year long and sometimes its unbearable. I mean, at times I might have to turn on the heated seats.


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