Yeah dammit another oil thread
 

I need the TSB or that paperwork saying that for only the 2009, Nissan's Ester oil is recommened/required or will be covered under the service contract. I cannot find definitive evidence. (The end of every years' manual says Ester oil is recommended)

This POS dealer said it isn't covered even though previously the service manager said it was before... And I really don't feel like driving 75 miles for an oil change at a dealership that has a brain...



Thank you in advance!
(Not you Kenchan :icon17:)

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Daym, even my pre paid gold maint plan says all models do not require ester oil

I jumped into this thread thinking "boy I hope this guy has his flame suit on." ...

Well, you have a 2013, in other threads and from my knowledge it is because of the gen 1 VVEL or whatever.
Whatever the case may be... I want my damn ester oil!!! Lol

DE change your own damn oil. Or bring it over to my house I'll do it.

I would, I already paid for it though

Go get you some RedLine...... Hell if I were local I would do it for you.....:icon17:

:iagree: redline by far the best ester oil you can get aside from nissan's

^pains in my ***... Lol

I'm not lazy, I did an oil change last night. I just want them to put $50 oil in when I paid $20, lol

...dont tell me, they put conventional oil in?

Which dealer if you don't mind me asking is giving you this hassle.

I too have the pre paid gold maint plan, as a compensation for oil consumption. I always get ester oil even when the dealer put in regular oil and I had to wait for another change out with ester.

This is North Bay Nissan in Sonoma CA.

Call corporate and have them explain it to the dealership.

i've done my own changes since i got my car with 1800 miles on it and have only used red line oil so far. my car runs amazing without taking it up the ass from a nissan dealer. when i went in for my steering lock recall they tried getting me to do my 30K mile service (i was at 24k) and the price was over $600 for fluid changes.....yea i'll glady do it myself.

also i know people who used to work at dealerships and oil change places......yea they put cheap stuff in your car and take home the good stuff.....just fyi.

The Indians at corporate said they didn't see where the car needed Ester oil

God forsaken Gardena Nissan, which is Nissan Corporate's preferred dealershit. (They paid off Yelp to take off bad reviews... Bastards...)
And POS Nissan off Rosecrans and the 405 tried to pin their car's prexisting dent on me. So stay away from him and Mike Garcia at any cost (you can read Yelp reviews about him) but the fuckér did put Ester oil for free

Pages 9-2 to 9-5 of the 2009 370 handbook.

Engine oil with API Certification Mark*2, *3

*2: For additional information, see later in this paragraph for engine oil and oil filter recommendation.
*3: NISSAN recommends Genuine NISSAN Ester Engine Oil, which is available at a NISSAN dealer.


1. 2.
API certification mark API service symbol
STI0505
tional Lubricant Standardization and Approval Committee (ILSAC) certification and SAE vis- cosity standard. These oils have the API certification mark on the front of the container. Oils which do not have the specified quality label should not be used as they could cause engine damage.
Selecting the correct oil
It is essential to choose the correct grade, quality, and viscosity engine oil to ensure satisfactory engine life and performance, see “CAPACITIES AND RECOMMENDED FUEL/ LUBRICANTS” earlier in this section. NISSAN recommends the use of an energy conserving oil in order to improve fuel economy.
Select only engine oils that meet the American Petroleum Institute (API) certification or International Lubricant Standardization and Approval Committee (ILSAC) certification and SAE vis- cosity standard. These oils have the API certification mark on the front of the container. Oils which do not have the specified quality label should not be used as they could cause engine damage.

Good luck

^^^ problem is that every other year says that too


But I do appreciate it

Not too sure how current this is, or if even helps, but I found it floating around on the forum.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...m3/photo-2.jpg

I couldn't find anything in the service manual or searching TSBs.

This looks helpful though since you have an 09' unless you bought your oil changes after 9/1/2010. But if you didn't sign with this clause get that ester oil.

Honestly though, forget them and DIY :P trade for parts credit or something.

IIRC from way back then, the general consensus was that the original factory fill was not ester oil (Nissan, to my knowledge, has never confirmed what they used at the factory). I believe there was a dealer bulletin from Nissan that stated that if an engine was "noisy" that the dealer should try using the Nissan's Ester Engine Oil and see if that helps to quiet the engine. That bulletin, and the general recommendation that's in the Owner's Manual to use Nissan's Ester Engine Oil is about all I know of from Nissan on the topic.

I drained the factory fill at about 1250 miles and refilled with the ridiculously expensive Nissan ester oil. I ran that until 5000 miles and then switched to 05W-30 Redline. I had been running the Redline with 5K mile OCI's, and excellent Blackstone reports. I was somewhat concerned with consumption though, using around 1.25 quarts every 5K miles.
At the 35,000 mile mark I switched to Pennzoil Ultra 05W-30, mainly because it was considerably cheaper than Redline and has an excellent reputation. Interestingly enough, I have only had to add less than half a quart in 4000 miles. It may be the oil, it may be that the engine is just settling down. I will do another Blackstone analysis when I change the Ultra at 5000 miles. If comparable to the Redline I may stick with the Ultra, it runs about $55 for 6 quarts delivered on Amazon vs. $69 for 6 quarts of Redline delivered. I use the Mobil 1 # 110 filter which is slightly oversized so I put 5.5 quarts in with an oil & filter change instead of the 5.25 quarts the manual says. I think I paid almost $14 per quart for the Nissan ester oil by the time I paid the 8% sales tax, and won't make that mistake again.

You can get Pennzoil Ultra or Platinum at Pep Boys - I'm pretty sure their price is cheaper than what you'll pay Amazon.

Walmart also sells Ultra - $28 for a 5qt jug.

This, when Nissan wrote the GT-R's oil recommendation they wrote it differently, they made their warranty dependent on the oil used.

"*1: Mobil 1 (0W-40) (100% synthetic) is the factory fill oil. The VR38 engine with its plasma-sprayed bores was developed using this oil. NISSAN cannot ensure proper engine operation and durability if other 0W-40
synthetic oil is used. If Mobil 1 (0W-40) is not available, Mobil 1 (10W-40) (100% synthetic) may be used; however, some performance loss may be noticed. For additional information, see the following section.
( “ENGINE OIL AND OIL FILTER RECOMMENDATION” page 9-5)"

"Using an engine oil other than that
specified could adversely affect the
engine. See the 2011 NISSAN GT-R
Warranty Information Booklet for details
and exclusions."

This was never true for the Z so any oil can be used.

just a quick note- this kind of consumption is considered "OK" by Nissan when compared with their oil consumption chart. I would also consider it very common for the VQ37 (and even the 35) to use 1-1.5 quarts every 5k miles.

in other words, no cause for alarm- just make sure you keep it within the indicated acceptable range on the dipstick.

My local Wal-Mart stopped carrying the Ultra, so I just ordered 2 of the 5 qt containers from them online and got free shipping. Just a suggestion in case you happen to live somewhere really remote where Wal-Mart hasn't built a store, yet.

Muahahahahahaha, the bastards called me and told me to bring it in!

Win!!!

Service manager is pissed. He's going to fire the advisor

Just started changing my oil on my Z. Where's the best place to get redline
?

Z1 has it the cheapest i've seen plus the sell a oil change kit with the filter and other options.

Just started changing my oil on my Z. Where's the best place to get redline?

Speaking of this package, is the Nismo filter upgrade worth it? Is it advisable to use the OEM or Nismo over the K&N filter?

I buy the really expensive Fram ones from Walmart normally. I now use Bosch D3312 from Walmart because it fits the Stillen oil cooler, and it's a great filter

i got the nismo one the first change i did and the regular on the next. cant reall tell the difference honestly. i do however now buy extra quarts since i'm running the 34 row oil cooler. takes a little extra now lol

Somewhere back in 2009, IIRC, there was a long thread on oil and oil filters. At that time, the Nissan OEM oil filters were among the crappiest out there.

The consensus was that PureOne, Mobil1, and K&N (and possibly Wix, I just don't remember anymore) were the ones to use.

Okay, am a complete car noobie, just got a nismo 2014 two weeks back. I kno im not due for an oil change any time soon since i bought the car with 7 miles, But whats the best way to change oil if you dont know how to urself (ashamed) :( buy the oil and bring to dealer or???

See what your dealer charges for labor. If it's $15~ok, take them a filter and oil. If not, just go to any shop and keep your receipt for the oil and filter every time you do it.

Lastly, get/find a friend, and try doing it yourself?

their express oil change is $20 iirc, if you bring your own supplies i cant imagine labor being expensive on that, maybe $10 at most

I go for the Nismo filter, if you look at the OEM filter it says (MADE IN CHINA) and if you look at the Nismo filter it says (MADE IN JAPAN):tup:

I've had nothing but trouble* when using the "quick lube"-type places. Most of the employees seem to be HS/college kids that are just doing time to get some spending money. Do as the others have suggested and take it to some place that hires ppl that give a crap.

You can usually save a few bucks by bringing in your own oil/filter but it's not going to be that much - unless they have outrageous prices at the shop. I chalk up the few extra bucks to goodwill.

* Eg, not fully refilling the Ford Top-loading Manual Transmission in my '67 Mustang. Trans was trashed by the time I got home. Luckily, top-loaders are pretty easy to rebuild and the parts are very reasonable. But I was still without my Mustang for a few weeks while I ordered parts and did the rebuild.