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im not sure what bmw was thinking by making a v8 m3. as fun as it was to drive and as much of a beast as it was, it was trying to over reach its "comfort zone" imo. v6 suited the e46 nicely..they shouldve kept it at that while generating more power for future m3s. let the bigger boys Ms take the v8+ engines and keep the m3 at 6. v6 is the perfect balance in my opinion. if nissan goes lower...they will eventually [probably] realize it wasnt a smart idea and go back up to 6 again. my 2 cents |
As per OP's first post, Z designer Shiro Nakamura and product chief Andy Palmer are looking at a smaller Z with a turbo 4.
Most automobile manufacturers will use the same engine across a number of their cars (Nissan does it with the VQ) in order to keep costs in check. Here's my questions and I want to know what you folks think. If Nissan did in fact come out with the smaller/lighter Z with a turbo 4, what other Nissan cars would it power? |
They need to call the new Z the 370Z Twin Turbo. :) They did the same thing with the Z31 and Z32.
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Most likely will be found in the new G coupe/sedan (Q50 something whatever I am calling it G coupe) -knowing that G coupe/sedan are pretty massive cars, Can't expect any less power/torque or they will risk becoming slower than civics. So I'd say a high boost 4, north of 300hp 300tq from a 2.0+ displacement, Would love to see less mass in the chasis, but wouldn't be upset if it was close to 3200lbs w/ more power... as long as it doesn't gain weight. |
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Or call it the Z35. |
They could somewhat easily turbo the VQ. The issue would be the cooling capacities and space for said components. On the flip side, they would have to hold peoples hands on the maintenance plans and force the mechanics/salesman to actually train on the systems instead of following a script.
I for one wouldn't really care if the Z35 comes with a turbo 4-cylinder. I just wouldn't consider purchasing it. If they give us a 6-cylinder with some nifty stuff like direct injection and hybrid electric systems, I would consider it depending on the implementation. I am happy with my TT-Z now and would not want to give up the smile she puts on my face for something that I have to rework to get the same type of thing. They could use this motor if they are indeed in league with Mercedes Benz; 2015 Mercedes-Benz E400 Twin-Turbo V-6 |
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i would agree, but it has already been put out that Nissan's weight target for the next Z is around 2800lbs |
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Look at some of the recently released cars, most had weight reduction goals - and almost all ended up gaining weight. Just to name a few, the c7 chief engineer said they originally wanted the new vette to be ~100lbs lighter, it ended up being a little heavier vs the outgoing model. |
The only thing holding me back from a turbo 4 is the sound. For me, thats part of the sports car experience and I just dont like how 4cyl sound...especially with exhaust. I personally would like a downsized v6 turbo instead.
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Nissan should leave the turbo 4 for the IDx and make the Z slightly lower displacement but with a supercharger, or a high revving V8 :stirthepot:
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