Jan 19, 2014 article: next 370Z

ElVee · 01-20-2014, 03:31 PM

Hopefully the IDx fills the smaller, sporty segment to compete with the Toybaru twins and other up-comers. I'll have to wait until I see the end specs and styling, but I think they'll do just fine in the sub 20-25k sporty segment.

That would leave the Z to be more or less where it was in 2009 when it came out: Cross-shopped with the muscle cars (Mustang, Camaro) and even the sporty cars (Boxster). It surprisingly competed just fine with both groups in 2009. Not sure they can do so today, but that should still be the goal, yes?

I really hope they keep it in that area, where you have some power, you have the sporty handling, and at a price point between those two major groups. It's a really good sweet spot for a low production vehicle that probably couldn't compete directly with either side straight-up. And you throw in two trump cards: sexy looks and at least a really good interior.

I know, preachin' to the choir, but the 370z has been nicely placed thus far. It would be a shame if they mess with that too much.

If there's room for movement, I would say you move the 370Z upwards a bit and make sure it's a Corvette-alternative (surely not as powerful, but as a driver's car, make it a target) and continues to dance at Porsche's heels. It's not like it's going to suddenly get near GTR cost or performance such that it will steal sales. While the 370Z is a baby Godzilla, it's not anywhere close to growing into one. And that's fine.

Zed-Hed · 01-20-2014, 04:11 PM

Bruce,
I agree 100%. Turbo powered 2.5 liter with a great chassis under 3k lbs.
Make it look 1/2 as good as the Toyota ft-1 concept.

Justice97 · 01-20-2014, 05:02 PM

I will be disappointed if they do not offer a six.
Go ahead and make a 4, but offer a six in a NISMO type package.
250Z TT and 390Z NISMO

/Angelo350Z/ · 01-20-2014, 05:22 PM

^^ +1000

I wish Nissan can produce a V6 Z in limited numbers just to keep us happy. A 4 cylinder Z does not sit well with me, regardless of how light the car is going to be.

Masterbeatty · 01-20-2014, 05:35 PM

The 2.5 four cylinder makes the most sense. Nissan already has the qr25det in the juke. Maybe they were using that to test the engine and then tweek it alittle for the next Z.

7speed · 01-21-2014, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterbeatty

The 2.5 four cylinder makes the most sense. Nissan already has the qr25det in the juke. Maybe they were using that to test the engine and then tweek it alittle for the next Z.

Juke has only 1.6

Maybe they will offer 2 different engines like most of the sports cars it wants to compete with. That would also separate nismo vs base. They may do turbo 4 and turbo 6. But I see the vq37 as dead.

brucelidat · 01-20-2014, 05:50 PM

If they do keep a v6 option, I really doubt it'd be a new engine. The focus is on smaller turbo engines now so a v6 would likely be the same engine we have now with DI if you're lucky paired with the car's reduced weight for better performance.

/Angelo350Z/ · 01-20-2014, 06:25 PM

At this point I don't really care what the engine is going to be. Just give us a concept car Nissan!

Akmcmahon · 01-20-2014, 06:36 PM

Jalopnik posted something similar today.

Nissan Is Probably Cooking Up A New Turbo Z

/Angelo350Z/ · 01-20-2014, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akmcmahon

Jalopnik posted something similar today.

Nissan Is Probably Cooking Up A New Turbo Z

Thanks for sharing. 4 sports cars, huh? We'll see, Nissan. That Z32 photo is so iconic.

JungleZ · 01-20-2014, 06:49 PM

Just wanted to remind everyone I get 13-15 mpg city. That's worse than a v8.

Firebase99 · 01-21-2014, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

Just wanted to remind everyone I get 13-15 mpg city. That's worse than a v8.

How?? Do you have a fuel leak? I drive like a lunatic pretty much ALL the time and am in some pretty bad commute traffic, just sitting there, making noise and I STILL get 22....

Chuck33079 · 01-21-2014, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleZ

Just wanted to remind everyone I get 13-15 mpg city. That's worse than a v8.

Dammit, the ban expired and the first thing he does is come back with the same old complaints. Dude, there is something wrong with your car if you get that kind of gas mileage. I don't actually think you get that kind of gas mileage. I think you make up complaints because you leased more car than you can afford, and now you're car-poor and miserable and taking it out on the car.

Firebase99 · 01-21-2014, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Dammit, the ban expired and the first thing he does is come back with the same old complaints. Dude, there is something wrong with your car if you get that kind of gas mileage. I don't actually think you get that kind of gas mileage. I think you make up complaints because you leased more car than you can afford, and now you're car-poor and miserable and taking it out on the car.

Ahhhh....so this is documented. LOL!

Chuck33079 · 01-21-2014, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebase99

Ahhhh....so this is documented. LOL!

He's got a long history of being unpleasant. We just can't figure out why someone who hates a car as much as he claims to would spend as much time as he does on the forum for that car. It makes no sense unless his life is just that empty and meaningless.

01-20-2014, 03:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
ElVee Track Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Iowa Posts: 750 Drives: 13 370z 7at t+s grey Rep Power: 17	Hopefully the IDx fills the smaller, sporty segment to compete with the Toybaru twins and other up-comers. I'll have to wait until I see the end specs and styling, but I think they'll do just fine in the sub 20-25k sporty segment. That would leave the Z to be more or less where it was in 2009 when it came out: Cross-shopped with the muscle cars (Mustang, Camaro) and even the sporty cars (Boxster). It surprisingly competed just fine with both groups in 2009. Not sure they can do so today, but that should still be the goal, yes? I really hope they keep it in that area, where you have some power, you have the sporty handling, and at a price point between those two major groups. It's a really good sweet spot for a low production vehicle that probably couldn't compete directly with either side straight-up. And you throw in two trump cards: sexy looks and at least a really good interior. I know, preachin' to the choir, but the 370z has been nicely placed thus far. It would be a shame if they mess with that too much. If there's room for movement, I would say you move the 370Z upwards a bit and make sure it's a Corvette-alternative (surely not as powerful, but as a driver's car, make it a target) and continues to dance at Porsche's heels. It's not like it's going to suddenly get near GTR cost or performance such that it will steal sales. While the 370Z is a baby Godzilla, it's not anywhere close to growing into one. And that's fine. Rockhound, /Angelo350Z/ and mag_black like this.

01-20-2014, 05:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
/Angelo350Z/ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 2,230 Drives: Z34 \| MK7 \| F82 Rep Power: 3661	^^ +1000 I wish Nissan can produce a V6 Z in limited numbers just to keep us happy. A 4 cylinder Z does not sit well with me, regardless of how light the car is going to be. __________________ 2013 MB NISSAN 370Z SPORT

01-20-2014, 05:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
Masterbeatty A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Whales Vagina Posts: 4,586 Drives: the speed limit... Rep Power: 122868	The 2.5 four cylinder makes the most sense. Nissan already has the qr25det in the juke. Maybe they were using that to test the engine and then tweek it alittle for the next Z. chuky likes this. __________________ 2011 MB 6MT Masterbeatty journal

01-20-2014, 05:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 32	If they do keep a v6 option, I really doubt it'd be a new engine. The focus is on smaller turbo engines now so a v6 would likely be the same engine we have now with DI if you're lucky paired with the car's reduced weight for better performance. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

01-20-2014, 06:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
/Angelo350Z/ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 2,230 Drives: Z34 \| MK7 \| F82 Rep Power: 3661	At this point I don't really care what the engine is going to be. Just give us a concept car Nissan! __________________ 2013 MB NISSAN 370Z SPORT

01-20-2014, 04:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zed-Hed Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Raleigh,NC Posts: 94 Drives: 2010 Z/2015 Z Rep Power: 21	Bruce, I agree 100%. Turbo powered 2.5 liter with a great chassis under 3k lbs. Make it look 1/2 as good as the Toyota ft-1 concept.

01-20-2014, 05:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Justice97 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: San Antonio Posts: 387 Drives: 11 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 16	I will be disappointed if they do not offer a six. Go ahead and make a 4, but offer a six in a NISMO type package. 250Z TT and 390Z NISMO

01-20-2014, 06:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Akmcmahon Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 159 Drives: 13 370Z Mag Black M6 Rep Power: 14	Jalopnik posted something similar today. Nissan Is Probably Cooking Up A New Turbo Z

01-20-2014, 06:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
JungleZ Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: orange county,ca Posts: 652 Drives: leased base z... Rep Power: 0	Just wanted to remind everyone I get 13-15 mpg city. That's worse than a v8.

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