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gleis25 12-11-2013 03:18 AM

Crazy idea?!
 
What's going on everyone? New to the forum and don't own a Z. That's actually where the crazy idea comes into play. I currently have a 2012 Genesis Coupe 2.0t with only 9000 miles on her. Bought it new and have done just a few mods thus far. I love the car and it feels pretty fast without putting down crazy numbers. Buttttt, I look at the 370z and get a cream in the jeans feeling knowing that stock it will put mine to shame even with the mods I've done lol. There are a few problems with this idea though. First, the Hyundai depreciates like a mother and I'll be lucky to get a decent deal for trade in. Anddd second, I still owe 19 on her. With that being said, I'd have to trade mine in on an older model if I did. I've done a good bit of research and have found a few 09's for good deals but I feel like it may be a terrible idea to trade back three years and 10,000 miles yet still find myself actually thinking about doing it lol. Opinions?? Has anyone else taken the plunge and traded back on a relatively new vehicle for a different beast?

critical 12-11-2013 04:06 AM

i test drove the genesis 3.8 track as well as their 3.8 auto, but when I drove the Z it was "love at first sight" so to speak. totally different animal. the Z feels special. the genesis is a really nice and loaded car though. great interior and great price.

if you're driving auto, the Z will be an even more massive improvement. if manual, i'd stay away from 09's due to oil consumption issues. so far the car has been really reliable even though i got it with high mileage so no worries there.

i always like to let you genesis guys hear my exhaust as i'm passing lol ;)

i'd say go drive a Z and see how much more enjoyment you'll get. oh and drive one with a sport package.

Firebase99 12-11-2013 05:00 AM

Long time Z fan, 260, 280, 300, 350, 370...did drive the 3.8 R Spec and Touring around before I bought the 370. Dollar for dollar the interior blows the Z away. Performance wise, it really was no contest. The 3.8, albeit, quick, did not inspire any confidence in any facet. Not that it was bad, far, far from it. Certainly more of a GT cruiser, and a very good one (have an Accord and Volvo for that). Did trade in a 2012 Nissan SUV (had for about 10 months after I thought it was time to grow up-as my new wife stated and get rid of of my 350Z) for the 13 370z. Yes, still married. She agreed my driving happiness is selfishly, childishly, mercifully tolerated, even adoringly encouraged-or so i think, lol. Could not stand driving that boat. It was terrible in every way. Im throwing up a little thinking about it. Emmm....I dont even know about the finances. LOL. I threw money at them, along with the keys and drove the Z away.

Gadgetech 12-11-2013 05:05 AM

I'm not a fan of trading that far back, I'd try and get a deal on a newer car or stick with what I have until I could afford a newer one. $19k doesn't look to be too far off from a clean trade in. Could you sell it outright and break even?



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Majagit 12-11-2013 05:24 AM

I don't think anyone will even want to trade that far

gleis25 12-11-2013 08:56 AM

Keep in mind I have the pre-2013 base model 2.0. I have the 210hp rather than 274 on the 2013 2.0 or even 306 for the 2012 3.8. Stock, my car hit ~165 hp to the wheels. Barfffff lol So stock for stock going from mine to the Z would be a big upgrade. After the few mods I've done, I'm now at ~210hp and 230tq to the wheels but still a good bit less than a stock Z. I don't plan on doing anything more with a Z than I have with mine which would be intake, exhaust, and a tune. I just get nervous about giving up a couple years, the miles, and warranty to trade back. From what I've seen though, aside from the few common things I've read on here (steering lock issue, fuel starvation, and oil temps) the car seems to be pretty reliable for most. And if you're wondering, yes my genesis is an auto and I'd go for the auto Z also. I know I know...Can't drive, gtfo, no stick no dic*, yada yada yada haha :p

kenchan 12-11-2013 09:16 AM

wow, this is a losing thread...

Firebase99 12-11-2013 09:25 AM

Not sure meow where this is meow.

Firebase99 12-11-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleis25 (Post 2604419)
Keep in mind I have the pre-2013 base model 2.0. I have the 210hp rather than 274 on the 2013 2.0 or even 306 for the 2012 3.8. Stock, my car hit ~165 hp to the wheels. Barfffff lol So stock for stock going from mine to the Z would be a big upgrade. After the few mods I've done, I'm now at ~210hp and 230tq to the wheels but still a good bit less than a stock Z. I don't plan on doing anything more with a Z than I have with mine which would be intake, exhaust, and a tune. I just get nervous about giving up a couple years, the miles, and warranty to trade back. From what I've seen though, aside from the few common things I've read on here (steering lock issue, fuel starvation, and oil temps) the car seems to be pretty reliable for most. And if you're wondering, yes my genesis is an auto and I'd go for the auto Z also. I know I know...Can't drive, gtfo, no stick no dic*, yada yada yada haha :p

Oh....the truly awful Genesis. Sorry. Id do what it takes to get out of that, within reason. I wouldnt be car poor but id let some cash go if you can safely afford it. First world problems huh? :tiphat:

Mt Tam I am 12-11-2013 09:36 AM

Like marriage, Choose in haste and repent in leisure. I think the OP has made his bed and should sleep in it. Sorry to say but to lose so much with a trade seems a lesson for next time, choose carefully. The Genesis can't be that bad, I hope.

Good luck either way.

phohman 12-11-2013 09:37 AM

And if you're wondering, yes my genesis is an auto and I'd go for the auto Z also. I know I know...Can't drive, gtfo, no stick no dic*, yada yada yada haha


Wow, only 2 post and he know's this forum so well!

Save for while and then try/search for a 2012 or 13 w low miles.

kenchan 12-11-2013 09:39 AM

..and go practice how to drive MT...

Chuck33079 12-11-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleis25 (Post 2604203)
What's going on everyone? New to the forum and don't own a Z. That's actually where the crazy idea comes into play. I currently have a 2012 Genesis Coupe 2.0t with only 9000 miles on her. Bought it new and have done just a few mods thus far. I love the car and it feels pretty fast without putting down crazy numbers. Buttttt, I look at the 370z and get a cream in the jeans feeling knowing that stock it will put mine to shame even with the mods I've done lol. There are a few problems with this idea though. First, the Hyundai depreciates like a mother and I'll be lucky to get a decent deal for trade in. Anddd second, I still owe 19 on her. With that being said, I'd have to trade mine in on an older model if I did. I've done a good bit of research and have found a few 09's for good deals but I feel like it may be a terrible idea to trade back three years and 10,000 miles yet still find myself actually thinking about doing it lol. Opinions?? Has anyone else taken the plunge and traded back on a relatively new vehicle for a different beast?

You've got a nearly new car. Keep it. If you trade it in, you'll take it in the *** since you're either underwater or very close to it. Stop modding the car, save your pennies and get out of the car when it's financially responsible.

Yes, it's a bad idea to trade a nearly new car for a older used one of unknown mileage and upkeep.

Or be a typical consumer and keep rolling negative equity forward so you'll still be paying for the Hyundai six cars from now.

H2O_Doc 12-11-2013 09:49 AM

I've owned both an auto and manual Z. I prefer the manual, but if you want an auto in any car the Z is the one to get it in. If anyone gives you any "I'm insecure in my manhood" flack, just tell them you are a serious 1/4 mile racer and only the quickest transmission would do for you (the 7AT is fast). Then excuse yourself to go get a creatine and dynamite milkshake that you need to drink before you go fertilize all the ripe ova at the nearby Hooters.

XxACExX 12-11-2013 09:50 AM

Even though Hyundai has come a long way from there past massive failures I still think they have not garnered the confidence back yet in the general public. The rapid depreciation only seems to strengthen this point.
@ op-- you should drive the car for at least a couple more years and try to pay it off as much as you can. It is still a nice car so it shouldn't be too hard to wait it out.

kenchan 12-11-2013 10:33 AM

Quote:

learn to respect others.. :gtfo:
hey op- was this you that sent me a rep with the above comments? LOL

if so, you not ready for a Z.

zguynate 12-11-2013 10:37 AM

I own both, a manual Z and a manual GC 3.8, and there is no doubt in my mind that I would take the Z over the Genesis.

kenchan 12-11-2013 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 2604602)
I own both, a manual Z and a manual GC 3.8, and there is no doubt in my mind that I would take the Z over the Genesis.

so you like your genesis more than your z?

kenchan 12-11-2013 10:45 AM

his post stinks more than his breath... :ugh:

kidkotic2001 12-11-2013 11:03 AM

I test drove the track edition a while back but my 2012 Z was love at first sight, given the fact that I already had a 300zx, 350z, 09 370z which I traded for the 2012Z (impulse buy) Great deal was not upside down. :) Anyways, I can tell you that the Genesis track edition interior is awesome blows the Z interior away. But I still felt that the Z was more aggressive and felt more manly. LOL.

Here is my advice, since you just got your Genesis a while back and only 10k on it I would just keep it. I am not a fan of going back to an 09 especially the Z that year was not a good year for the Z. If you do decide I would try to go for a 10 or 11. I am willing to bet right now if you would go to your local Nissan dealer and just be straight out and tell them pay off my car and I will jump in your Z I bet they can work something out. In the end it will be up to you this is just my 2 cents.

Troyz 12-11-2013 11:09 AM

Test Drove a Hyundai genesis 3.8 WOW
 
Its a nice driving car. You will get more cash selling it than trading it in. Why did you get a 2.0T instead of the V6? Turbos are fun to mod. It will be more fun than the Subaru BRZ so just enjoy it.

370Z isn't all that...and you don't need to take a hit.

kenchan 12-11-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troyz (Post 2604666)
Its a nice driving car. You will get more cash selling it than trading it in. Why did you get a 2.0T instead of the V6? Turbos are fun to mod. It will be more fun than the Subaru BRZ so just enjoy it.

370Z isn't all that...and you don't need to take a hit.


troyz- per your threads you started, we question whether you really know wat a z is. :D

Troyz 12-11-2013 11:40 AM

370z
 
Originally Poor mans Porsche 911 in the 70's. Mass produced entry level sports car. Middle/Poor Class man's track toy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2604690)
troyz- per your threads you started, we question whether you really know wat a z is. :D


kenchan 12-11-2013 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troyz (Post 2604709)
Originally Poor mans Porsche 911 in the 70's. Mass produced entry level sports car. Middle/Poor Class man's track toy.

:crying: we sound poor.

XxACExX 12-11-2013 11:55 AM

This guy Troyz might be onto something, I just seen a bum walk out of the soup kitchen downtown and get into a 370z. A poor class vehicle indeed. :ughdance:

critical 12-11-2013 12:49 PM

the genesis auto is absolutely horrid! trade for a Z

zguynate 12-11-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2604611)
so you like your genesis more than your z?

Yeah man. It has a bigger motor. There's no replacement for displacement bro.

Jk lol. I don't know if you read that right. If I were given the option, I would choose the Z rather than the Genesis. The Z is a much more refined car all the way around. In every aspect. And whoever said the interior is better on the Genesis must be smoking crack lol.

kenchan 12-11-2013 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 2604810)
Yeah man. It has a bigger motor. There's no replacement for displacement bro.

Jk lol. I don't know if you read that right. If I were given the option, I would choose the Z rather than the Genesis. The Z is a much more refined car all the way around. In every aspect. And whoever said the interior is better on the Genesis must be smoking crack lol.

oh... :icon17: sorry dragon. you know, we's poor. no ejukayshon

critical 12-11-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 2604810)
Yeah man. It has a bigger motor. There's no replacement for displacement bro.

Jk lol. I don't know if you read that right. If I were given the option, I would choose the Z rather than the Genesis. The Z is a much more refined car all the way around. In every aspect. And whoever said the interior is better on the Genesis must be smoking crack lol.

4 seats, quieter, lots of options

https://www.hyundaiusa.com/images/Hy...ai-2013-33.jpg

or

http://www.nissanusa.com/content/dam...or/gccl/00.jpg

with the nav, 10 speakers, power seats, sunroof this car is cheaper than the base Z.

maybe you have a touring Z? i love my touring nav Z's interior but compared to the base, the genesis is quite nice for the price.

7speed 12-11-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by critical (Post 2604865)
4 seats, quieter, lots of options

with the nav, 10 speakers, power seats, sunroof this car is cheaper than the base Z.

maybe you have a touring Z? i love my touring nav Z's interior but compared to the base, the genesis is quite nice for the price.

I think we needs to compare apples, he doesn't have a 2013 gen coupe (your pic above) so his interior is more like this..............

http://www.motorsbros.com/images/Hyu...upe-20T-09.jpg

kenchan 12-11-2013 02:44 PM

this is wat mine looks like:

http://www.lg.com/us/images/washers/...y/medium01.jpg

alcheng 12-11-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by critical (Post 2604865)
4 seats, quieter, lots of options

https://www.hyundaiusa.com/images/Hy...ai-2013-33.jpg

or

http://www.nissanusa.com/content/dam...or/gccl/00.jpg

with the nav, 10 speakers, power seats, sunroof this car is cheaper than the base Z.

maybe you have a touring Z? i love my touring nav Z's interior but compared to the base, the genesis is quite nice for the price.


wow... such a good deal.. you should tell the porsche owners to trade in their cayman for the gen.coupe...!!

you know... they are driving an overpriced Z.... :bowrofl:

LMBmikeZ 12-11-2013 03:21 PM

It's only money :ugh2: just do it!

Remember you can't take it with you when your dead! :icon17:

kenchan 12-11-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 2605046)
It's only money :ugh2: just do it!

Remember you can't take it with you when your dead! :icon17:

he's only like 19 or something. :icon17:

critical 12-11-2013 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2605002)
wow... such a good deal.. you should tell the porsche owners to trade in their cayman for the gen.coupe...!!

you know... they are driving an overpriced Z.... :bowrofl:

cool, dude. i only advocated the Z a few times-never the Genesis, but you must have not read much of this thread. i don't know how to go from me saying it's nice for the price to telling Porsche owners to trade in for it. :shakes head:

DEpointfive0 12-11-2013 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2604959)

I've put a down payment for this guy's big brother. Never has a man been so excited about laundry

kenchan 12-11-2013 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2605135)
I've put a down payment for this guy's big brother. Never has a man been so excited about laundry

bad move... these lucky goldstars leak. :shakes head:

alcheng 12-11-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by critical (Post 2605118)
cool, dude. i only advocated the Z a few times-never the Genesis, but you must have not read much of this thread. i don't know how to go from me saying it's nice for the price to telling Porsche owners to trade in for it. :shakes head:

a funny side of you is critically needed bro....

I was joking.... :wtf2:


:p

DEpointfive0 12-11-2013 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2605138)
bad move... these lucky goldstars leak. :shakes head:

Whathuh?

kenchan 12-11-2013 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2605149)
Whathuh?

yah, i speak from experience. :ugh:


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