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nhbpcivicsi 10-30-2013 06:46 PM

Please convince me to buy a Z!
 
Well hello there fellas :hello:
i'm currently looking at a 2011 Manual black 370Z base (sport package) with 20k miles, listed for $25k, what do you guys think about the price?
As it appears from my name I currently drive a 2007 Honda civic Si coupe, and im thinking its time to change things up since I've had the car for about two years! Im just having difficulties to accept the fact that if I do purchase the Z, maintenance will definitely go up, and gas of course.. what do you guys think? has anybody else made this switch before? any help would be appreciated :) :icon17:

Chuck33079 10-30-2013 06:58 PM

Do it. It's a huge upgrade.

blackcherry20 10-30-2013 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2548101)
Do it. It's a huge upgrade.

:iagree:

nhbpcivicsi 10-30-2013 07:01 PM

i'm thinking about offering the dealer $23k or what he's asking OTD, is that too much to ask? i already test drove the vehicle but i wanna see what is the trade in value for my Si..

Chuck33079 10-30-2013 07:03 PM

23k would be nice. You're not going to feel like you get ripped off at 25k either. It's definitely the best car you can get for 25k.

Highway 10-30-2013 07:03 PM

I had an 06 Fiji Blue and the best thing about the upgrade was this weird thing called torque. Also, don't miss that FWD.

(I did have an S2k and a WRX before I finally settled on the Z....for now.)

kenchan 10-30-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2548083)
Well hello there fellas :hello:
i'm currently looking at a 2011 Manual black 370Z base (sport package) with 20k miles, listed for $25k, what do you guys think about the price?
As it appears from my name I currently drive a 2007 Honda civic Si coupe, and im thinking its time to change things up since I've had the car for about two years! Im just having difficulties to accept the fact that if I do purchase the Z, maintenance will definitely go up, and gas of course.. what do you guys think? has anybody else made this switch before? any help would be appreciated :) :icon17:

yah, just drive backwards in your civic and you'll get a nice simulation of a RWD car. should be plenty of convincing.

dAvenue 10-30-2013 07:11 PM

Do it because hot chicks.

nhbpcivicsi 10-30-2013 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Highway (Post 2548111)
I had an 06 Fiji Blue and the best thing about the upgrade was this weird thing called torque. Also, don't miss that FWD.

(I did have an S2k and a WRX before I finally settled on the Z....for now.)

Haha i don't even remember how torque feels like anymore..
are you saying that the Z>Si,S2k,WRX??
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2548122)
yah, just drive backwards in your civic and you'll get a nice simulation of a RWD car. should be plenty of convincing.

this made me lol no joke!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dAvenue (Post 2548127)
Do it because hot chicks.

ahh im convinced! is it really a chick magnet? i thought my Si was a chick magnet...

Zbrah 10-30-2013 07:20 PM

Reason #1: It's a 370Z!

Reason #2: You current car is a honduh civic

Reason #3: See #1 & #2

/thread

Drex 10-30-2013 07:27 PM

i upgraded from a 05 rsx-s to my z. definitely worth every penny :happydance:

Highway 10-30-2013 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2548148)
Haha i don't even remember how torque feels like anymore..
are you saying that the Z>Si,S2k,WRX??

I would only pick the WRX because it's a year round car. Living in the nasty midwest, I'm only able to drive the Z for about 7 months out of the year. The WRX is a blast in snow, but it did not get me the attention the Z has, even with a loud Perrin exhaust installed. But, I would not go back to the WRX right now...love the Z too much.

onzedge 10-30-2013 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2548101)
Do it. It's a huge upgrade.

:iagree:

tnav 10-30-2013 07:37 PM

I say get the Z, but if you are comparing a Z with any other car, then don't get it, plain and simple - Z is not for you

SPOHN 10-30-2013 07:38 PM

Just go drive it

blackcherry20 10-30-2013 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dAvenue (Post 2548127)
Do it because hot chicks.

:icon18: truth.

It attracted a few "chicks" enough for us to buy our own :tup:

GSS138 10-30-2013 07:44 PM

25K is a nice price for that car. If they will take 23K grats. Buy it either way, not much diff in monthly price.

It's going to be a big change. Learning the new clutch will be the first obstacle. It's a not a zip around town and get the groceries car. You will think it lacks some "quickness" at first compared to an SI.

But it is an upgrade. You will know it instantly. Besides, we have the coolest forum members on the planet and you can come hang out with the cool kids once you buy it! :tiphat:

I personally feel under 50K there is not a better looking car-that's my opinion obviously. But if you want to do track days or a little bit of racing, it is a very fast car as well once you get over its learning curve and learn how it works. In the hands of the right driver on any given road course vs any other OEM car, it might be one of the fastest cars there is for < 40K.

Throw on an exhaust, CAI, and tune for ~4k and you have a 300 rWHP racing machine that wil turn people's heads and get you comments and questions.

PaulZ370 10-30-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2548083)
... if I do purchase the Z, maintenance will definitely go up,

... maintenance will go up...? In what way? :icon14:

Chuck33079 10-30-2013 07:46 PM

If you buy it, go take it to an autoX or at the very least an empty parking lot and learn what happens when you lose it in a rwd car vs a fwd car. The physics are very different.

Amj2020 10-30-2013 07:52 PM

you wont have VTEC!!!!!!!!! therefore the car wont move at all

VincentLe 10-30-2013 08:10 PM

went from rsx -> 370z and gas isnt that bad of an issue...and ive gotten nothing but compliments. Also loving the power.

Mt Tam I am 10-30-2013 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2548101)
Do it. It's a huge upgrade.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drex (Post 2548158)
i upgraded from a 05 rsx-s to my z. definitely worth every penny :happydance:

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 2548185)
... maintenance will go up...? In what way? :icon14:

Tires yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2548186)
If you buy it, go take it to an autoX or at the very least an empty parking lot and learn what happens when you lose it in a rwd car vs a fwd car. The physics are very different.

There are more true statements in this thread, but all these are true. I hope you do it.

Justice97 10-30-2013 08:33 PM

1st you have to ask yourself, what will i gain and what will i lose.
You will experience an increase in fuel cost. You will have to buy more expensive tires. You will find yourself at the car wash more. These are just a few things you will lose. You will get compliments. You will have more power. You will ride in style. These are the types of things you will gain. That is it, it won't make you money, it won't get you a better job, it won't get you a degree.

Is it a chick magnet? lol I was getting girls in my ford Taurus, it's a car, YOU have to seal the deal.

What you have to ask yourself; are all of the things I will lose, worth what I will gain. For me it was a simple yes, no thinking necessary.

Think about it, they are not for someone to just jump in to, I am confident some regret buying them.

Peace out and make a financially wise decision, especially if you're young.

And the price is good at 25K, i think you might be able to walk out at 25k TTL, but not 23K. Worth a try if you do pull the trigger.

jaedub 10-30-2013 08:33 PM

Maintenance? The Z don't require much maintenance. It's a rock solid bulletproof car (at least for me). Drove 3.5 years with 0 problems. As for aftermarket parts, expect to pay 3~4 times the amount of civic parts. And chicks dig it! Can your civic do donuts?

Chuck33079 10-30-2013 08:36 PM

Consumables are going to cost a lot more than they did on a civic. Still worth it.

fzgood 10-30-2013 08:57 PM

If you need convincing I would tell you to hold off until you feel more compelled.

Nothing wrong w/ saving money, but if you're worried about increased cost of fuel, tires, and other consumables, I would hold off on this sort of purchase.

Most of the people on this forum absolutely love the Z despite its flaws. If you have to drink some kool-aid to part with your money, I say keep the money.

That said, I love the Z, it demands just enough attention from me to make driving enjoyable. The chassis is incredibly stable and solid. There's no car I would rather have this side of $60k.

nhbpcivicsi 10-30-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 2548183)
25K is a nice price for that car. If they will take 23K grats. Buy it either way, not much diff in monthly price.

It's going to be a big change. Learning the new clutch will be the first obstacle. It's a not a zip around town and get the groceries car. You will think it lacks some "quickness" at first compared to an SI.

But it is an upgrade. You will know it instantly. Besides, we have the coolest forum members on the planet and you can come hang out with the cool kids once you buy it! :tiphat:

I personally feel under 50K there is not a better looking car-that's my opinion obviously. But if you want to do track days or a little bit of racing, it is a very fast car as well once you get over its learning curve and learn how it works. In the hands of the right driver on any given road course vs any other OEM car, it might be one of the fastest cars there is for < 40K.

Throw on an exhaust, CAI, and tune for ~4k and you have a 300 rWHP racing machine that wil turn people's heads and get you comments and questions.

You're absolutely right! I test drove the car couple weeks ago and to be honest I wasn't too impressed, for some reason it did lack quickness as u mentioned and I felt more comfortable in my Si! im not sure why that happened but that's what really held me off back then!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justice97 (Post 2548277)
1st you have to ask yourself, what will i gain and what will i lose.
You will experience an increase in fuel cost. You will have to buy more expensive tires. You will find yourself at the car wash more. These are just a few things you will lose. You will get compliments. You will have more power. You will ride in style. These are the types of things you will gain. That is it, it won't make you money, it won't get you a better job, it won't get you a degree.

Is it a chick magnet? lol I was getting girls in my ford Taurus, it's a car, YOU have to seal the deal.

What you have to ask yourself; are all of the things I will lose, worth what I will gain. For me it was a simple yes, no thinking necessary.

Think about it, they are not for someone to just jump in to, I am confident some regret buying them.

Peace out and make a financially wise decision, especially if you're young.

And the price is good at 25K, i think you might be able to walk out at 25k TTL, but not 23K. Worth a try if you do pull the trigger.

money does play a major part here for sure! especially if I don't get a good trade-in value for my Si.. hopefully will get it appraised in a couple days, this might just make it or break it

Quote:

Originally Posted by fzgood (Post 2548309)
If you need convincing I would tell you to hold off until you feel more compelled.

Nothing wrong w/ saving money, but if you're worried about increased cost of fuel, tires, and other consumables, I would hold off on this sort of purchase.

Most of the people on this forum absolutely love the Z despite its flaws. If you have to drink some kool-aid to part with your money, I say keep the money.

That said, I love the Z, it demands just enough attention from me to make driving enjoyable. The chassis is incredibly stable and solid. There's no car I would rather have this side of $60k.

I honestly loved the car from outside and inside, when I drove it however, I wasn't too impressed.. I really want a two-seater.. good excuse not to have to drive your friends around :rofl2:

Chuck33079 10-30-2013 09:11 PM

I'm not sure about the car lacking quickness. It may not feel as fast, but take a look at the speedometer. It gets moving in a hurry. It's a linear powerband, and you have to give it some revs. There's no big spike of power, it just pulls and pulls. Test drive it again and keep your foot in it up past 7000 rpm.

nhbpcivicsi 10-30-2013 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2548326)
I'm not sure about the car lacking quickness. It may not feel as fast, but take a look at the speedometer. It gets moving in a hurry. It's a linear powerband, and you have to give it some revs. There's no big spike of power, it just pulls and pulls. Test drive it again and keep your foot in it up past 7000 rpm.

Im not sure how happy the dealer will be with that haha.. but yeah that's probably why, it just felt weird compared to the Si, I definitely felt like a sports car compared to the "sporty" Si

Chuck33079 10-30-2013 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2548338)
Im not sure how happy the dealer will be with that haha.. but yeah that's probably why, it just felt weird compared to the Si, I definitely felt like a sports car compared to the "sporty" Si

**** him if he doesn't like it. It's called a test drive for a reason. If he doesn't want your money there are other Zs out there. You need to get a feel for the car.

Justice97 10-30-2013 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2548341)
**** him if he doesn't like it. It's called a test drive for a reason. If he doesn't want your money there are other Zs out there. You need to get a feel for the car.

:iagree:

My test drive was nothing more than ceremonial and I opened my baby up, dealer was like ok just take it around here and back to the parking lot.....lol bite me this car is mine hang on.

Chuck33079 10-30-2013 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justice97 (Post 2548345)
:iagree:

My test drive was nothing more than ceremonial and I opened my baby up, dealer was like ok just take it around here and back to the parking lot.....lol bite me this car is mine hang on.

The one I test drove was the owner of the dealers's sons personal demo car and it had 5k miles on it already. I beat that dog. I don't think I was the first person to find the rev limiter on it.

nhbpcivicsi 10-30-2013 09:32 PM

weird thing is the car was advertised at 17.5K miles, when I went to test drive it, it had 19.5K miles.. dealer claimed that it was the "demo" car for the owner's son.. guess that's something that dealers use to cover their BS! oh that was another thing that made me think twice before purchasing.. it was somewhat sketchy

Justice97 10-30-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2548350)
weird thing is the car was advertised at 17.5K miles, when I went to test drive it, it had 19.5K miles.. dealer claimed that it was the "demo" car for the owner's son.. guess that's something that dealers use to cover their BS! oh that was another thing that made me think twice before purchasing.. it was somewhat sketchy

19.5K at $25K is still worth it, that would not concern me.
Like jaedub said, these cars are rock solid.
Just be smart about it. Use logic not emotion, it will get you more in the end.

Chuck33079 10-30-2013 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justice97 (Post 2548358)
19.5K at $25K is still worth it, that would not concern me.
Like jaedub said, these cars are rock solid.
Just be smart about it. Use logic not emotion, it will get you more in the end.

Yeah, that's still low mileage to me.

nhbpcivicsi 10-30-2013 09:42 PM

The mileage is fine, but the $25K is not OTD, that's what im thinking about offering the dealer, hopefully he accepts the offer and gives me a good trade-in value, then its a done deal!

Chuck33079 10-30-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2548361)
The mileage is fine, but the $25K is not OTD, that's what im thinking about offering the dealer, hopefully he accepts the offer and gives me a good trade-in value, then its a done deal!

If not, there's plenty of great Zs for sale here.

GSS138 10-30-2013 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2548326)
I'm not sure about the car lacking quickness. It may not feel as fast, but take a look at the speedometer. It gets moving in a hurry. It's a linear powerband, and you have to give it some revs. There's no big spike of power, it just pulls and pulls. Test drive it again and keep your foot in it up past 7000 rpm.

LMAO. Couldn't have said it better myself Chuck.

@ OP, you will have to start living in the 4000+ RPM world. That is why the fuel is more expensive. However if you learn the intricacies of the OEM clutch, you can definitely get 22+ MPG.

Owning a 370z is a little bit like being married to a stripper. She tells you she loves you, and you believe her. Why? Because you want to, and because your mom likes her for some reason, and because other bitches are jealous, and because your car is faster, and just because. You don't need to understand anymore than that.

Does the SI do that?



No...it doesn't.

Chuck33079 10-30-2013 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 2548369)
LMAO. Couldn't have said it better myself Chuck.

@ OP, you will have to start living in the 4000+ RPM world. That is why the fuel is more expensive. However if you learn the intricacies of the OEM clutch, you can definitely get 22+ MPG.

Owning a 370z is a little bit like being married to a stripper. She tells you she loves you, and you believe her. Why? Because you want to, and because your mom likes her for some reason, and because other bitches are jealous, and because your car is faster, and just because. You don't need to understand anymore than that.

Does the SI do that?



No...it doesn't.

He's coming from a Honda. He's no stranger to having to rev the **** out of a motor.

7speed 10-30-2013 10:10 PM

C'mon I'm sure he is used to living in the upper rev range ...he has SI Civic, that's Ivtec yo!


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