Nissan 370Z Forum - Please convince me to buy a Z!

Page 3 of 5

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

Nissan 370Z Forum (http://www.the370z.com/)

- Nissan 370Z General Discussions (http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-general-discussions/)

- - Please convince me to buy a Z! (http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-general-discussions/81422-please-convince-me-buy-z.html)

nhbpcivicsi

10-31-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justice97 (Post 2549995)

I would say Tnav might be correct Chuck. Why, because he is buying it for the wrong reasons. I want an upgrade, I want a sports car and only if the deal is right and the trade in value is good. Yes civicboy is using his head, he is weighing pros and cons, :tiphat: for that.
When you buy a car like a Z you should not have to worry about those things. I wouldn't say the Z wasn't for him, but I would say the timing may not be right. If you have to "budget" for a car payment on a fun car, then the timing isn't right. One misfortune and boom you can't make payments you fall behind and ugghh you lose it all to a banker.
When you buy a car like this, you should just be able to wake up one day and say, "Oh hell yeah it is time to buy myself a FUN car."

I don't know your situation civicboy, but if you are on a limited budget then be careful. Is your civic paid off? If it is, then save some cash so you can throw more down later, be patient. Don't be the typical fast food American.

I don't see why that's a problem? I would like an upgrade.. im happy with my Si for now but i'll be happier with the Z. if the dealer accepts my offer then so be it! if not i'll happily keep my Si!! will be posting a picture of the 'Civic' asap to show you that its just as good looking as your 'Z' Mr. Justice ;)
And oh you cant just wake up and be like "Oh hell yeah it is time to buy myself a FUN car'. you only see that in the movies and when people are filthy rich to a point where $25K doesn't even make a difference to them. My Si is paid off and I can afford the payment even if the price doesn't drop, no sweat! I would just prefer to get a better deal that's all..

Chuck33079

10-31-2013 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justice97 (Post 2550002)

Agree Chuck, I just don't like seeing people struggle or suffer later because they want something really bad. Civicboy is doing his homework for sure.

I just didn't see any post from the OP that mentioned anything about having to stretch to make payments. For all we know he could have the whole amount in his checking account. I didn't see him mention any financing. From everything he's mentioned he's doing this right. Shopping for the best deal and figuring out how much more his total cost of ownership will be is how you're supposed to look for cars.

Driftomodachi

10-31-2013 09:33 PM

I can't understand why you need any convincing. You can't decide for yourself?

/thread

Justice97

10-31-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2550007)

Then it sounds like you have everything in order, I say go buy the Z then.

As for waking up one day, yes it happens, only I saw that day coming, it was the day my kids started driving.

nhbpcivicsi

10-31-2013 11:12 PM

I feel like the only thing that's really holding me back is the fact that i wasn't too impressed when i first drove it, didn't feel that quick and the clutch just felt weird.. thats why i plan on driving it again this weekend to make a decision already

Drex	11-01-2013 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2550147)

you're missing the vtec crossover and feeling the stock clutch helper spring (read this). trust me, try punching it from a roll in 2nd or 3rd, smooth shifting and you'll forget all about vtec. :driving:

nhbpcivicsi

11-01-2013 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drex (Post 2550250)

would that harm the vehicle in any way tho? if removing it makes the ride so much better i dont see why it exists in the first place? what purpose is it serving...

Chuck33079

11-01-2013 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2550412)

would that harm the vehicle in any way tho? i removing it makes the ride so much better i dont see why it exists in the first place? what purpose is it serving...

It won't harm anything. If you leave it out and don't replace it with a softer spring, there's about a half inch of free play at the top of the clutch pedal stroke. Not a big deal. If it bothers you, there's a softer spring that's kind of a middle ground between stock and no spring at all.

nhbpcivicsi

11-01-2013 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2550415)

Thanks a lot man! i appreciate all your help. Can't wait to drive it again!! maybe i should go get my Si washed and waxed so i could get a better trade-in value :happydance:

Chuck33079

11-01-2013 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2550423)

maybe i should go get my Si washed and waxed so i could get a better trade-in value :happydance:

Especially under the hood and the interior. That's worth a couple hundred bucks at least.

kenchan

11-01-2013 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2550147)

is that because you drive around with a fart can on your civic? those make your car sound like a race car... while to us, you appear as if you're going slomo. :icon17:

kenchan

11-01-2013 09:22 AM

wasn't there a tv show long time ago bionic woman or something? when they go fast the camera cuts to slomo but with weird sound efx. thats wat a fart can civic reminds me of each time. :icon17: :p

nhbpcivicsi

11-01-2013 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2550555)

is that because you drive around with a fart can on your civic? those make your car sound like a race car... while to us, you appear as if you're going slomo. :icon17:

wasn't gonna mention this, but my Si is supercharged, 295 horses to the wheel buddy, idk what fart can you're talking about..

kenchan

11-01-2013 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2550582)

wasn't gonna mention this, but my Si is supercharged, 295 horses to the wheel buddy, idk what fart can you're talking about..

keep your si then. :tup:

Chuck33079

11-01-2013 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2550582)

, 295 horses to the wheel buddy, .

Typo or open diff? :p

kenchan

11-01-2013 09:32 AM

more importantly, was it bionic woman or bionic man? or was there both? ... :confused:

Chuck33079

11-01-2013 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2550589)

more importantly, was it bionic woman or bionic man? or was there both? ... :confused:

There was both.

zeeder

11-01-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2550582)

wasn't gonna mention this, but my Si is supercharged, 295 horses to the wheel buddy, idk what fart can you're talking about..

If you're putting down more power to the wheels than a stock 370Z, in a lighter car no less, why would you be surprised the Z doesn't feel as quick?

Tazicon

11-01-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2550582)

wasn't gonna mention this, but my Si is supercharged, 295 horses to the wheel buddy, idk what fart can you're talking about..

I'm impressed..............

nhbpcivicsi

11-01-2013 10:02 AM

lol i knew as soon as i mention this everybody would go crazy.. u guys just hate civics and their drivers dont you? i didn't want the fact that my Si is supercharged to play any deciding factor in my decision. And what i meant by 'the Z not being as quick' is probably just because im not used to a RWD. i expected it to be similar to what i have but obviously it was very different, not necessarily a bad thing, it just takes time getting used to

Joepro

11-01-2013 10:10 AM

My friends have civics, one is build beyond your wildest dreams, has 15k in it. Another has an 11 second Neon...at the end of the day I am driving a Z and they are driving soup cans...no offense, there are good friends and co workers, and we all respect each others tastes and cars, the OE clutch sucks in the 370z, that is no joke. Im at 322 whp NA and really happy, boost is in the future, but IMO Slow Z>fast civic.

BeemaaZ

11-01-2013 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joepro (Post 2550640)

Sounds like you need to get an RJM clutch pedal assembly. You won't regret it.

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

blackcherry20

11-01-2013 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2550630)

:tup: exactly. Just different. I have a normal 4-cylinder Civiv DD. i loved Victor until I got Harry (my effing awesome Z).
Two different things. Apples and oranges. Si is awesome too I hear, just dif.

shawnski

11-01-2013 10:19 AM

i work for honda dealership for many years, drove many si, nice car but there is not any comparison to 370 z from the look, the handling the 3.7 v6 engine etc.. etc..just different class.. when you drive a z you are driving a true sport car and best money you invested for what you get..
that vtech to me is a waste of technology, go get you a z bro you won't be diappointed, not a bit...
i don't know how much you are trying to get for your trade but dealers don't care much about supercharged or modified cars, it can actually hurt your trade in value of the car because of reliability reasons..dealers don't won't to mess with that...your best bet is to sell it to individual as a private party who has interest on modified cars, that is where you can get the most money for your trade.. good luck

kenchan

11-01-2013 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2550591)

There was both.

oh... dang. i thought so too. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2550630)

if your mind is still thinking that a civic si with s/c is comparable to a 370Z, then you should seriously keep your si for a few more years. enjoy it.

and once you're tired of your car, then look again for a sports car. by that time Z35's will be out as well.

these z's are better appreciated by someone that's already played with turbos and s/c's and tuning and modding and all. someone that will drive it stock and feel good and understand why the car was made this way. then do a few simple mods to make it theirs, and enjoy the car the way it is. no "convincing" is necessary.

BTW, you ever watched bionic man and woman? :icon17: its amazing how fast they can run in slomo. :rofl2:

Chuck33079

11-01-2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2550702)

these z's are better appreciated by someone that's already played with turbos and s/c's and tuning and modding and all. someone that will drive it stock and feel good and understand why the car was made this way. then do a few simple mods to make it theirs, and enjoy the car the way it is. no "convincing" is necessary.

What in the **** are you even talking about? :rofl2:

Joepro

11-01-2013 10:59 AM

For FYI I have a southbend clutch and flywheel with zspeed CSC with helper spring and I'm happy... I'm also a Honda service advisor... I like civics but not as sports cars... Without way more work that our zs need.

kenchan

11-01-2013 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2550704)

What in the **** are you even talking about? :rofl2:

i sure as hell NOT talking about that hugearse snail you got in your avatar! :rofl2:

Chuck33079

11-01-2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2550745)

i sure as hell NOT talking about that hugearse snail you got in your avatar! :rofl2:

That's the smallest one you can put on a Z. :rofl2:

kenchan

11-01-2013 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2550747)

That's the smallest one you can put on a Z. :rofl2:

you're not helping the newb! :rofl2:

DavidZ370

11-01-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2550147)

i guess you can keep youre Measly POS FWD :tiphat:

Elan	11-01-2013 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joepro (Post 2550640)

:iagree:

I don't hate on anyone for their choice in cars (Unless it's super ricey). My friend has an SI and its a cool little car, but at the end of the day it's a Honda and it ain't no sports car. The 370Z looks 1000000 times better. It has that real sporty look to it. Yes it isn't the fastest car in the world, but you will be blown away by the looks and compliments that you get. People think my Nismo is a 60k car lol. You may have a fast Civic, but I can also SC a VW Beetle and have it blow Vettes out of the water. At the end of the day, again it's still a VW.

If you want a Sports Car, get the Z. Like Joepro said Slow Z > Fast Civic. Girls will agree. ;) Plus its RWD.

waaaasabi

11-01-2013 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2550630)

I don't necessarily think that people here hate Civics or their drivers. I own a Civic and a 370z, and have driven a few Si's (with varying levels of modification).

And I also think that the fact that you've SC'd your Si should play a significant factor in your decision. Here's why: At 295WHP you probably are just as quick as, and perhaps even quicker than, a stock 370Z off the line... but the problem is with the inherent limitations of the Civic's chassis and drivetrain configuration. The Si is going to need quite a bit of suspension work to manage the same power as the Z; you're probably going to experience a lot of understeer and a ton of bodyroll if you try to follow the Z through turns & twisties. So really, with a SC, you're already nearing the precipice of performance & driveability in your Si; try to really push the Z, beyond just straight-line acceleration, and you'll see the difference. It's just a higher platform, performance-wise.

Chuck33079

11-01-2013 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waaaasabi (Post 2550938)

I don't necessarily think that people here hate Civics or their drivers. I own a Civic and a 370z, and have driven a few Si's (with varying levels of modification).

And I also think that the fact that you've SC'd your Si should play a significant factor in your decision. Here's why: At 295WHP you probably are just as quick as, and perhaps even quicker than, a stock 370Z off the line... but the problem is with the inherent limitations of the Civic's chassis and drivetrain configuration. The Si is going to need quite a bit of suspension work to manage the same power as the Z; you're probably going to experience a lot of understeer and a ton of bodyroll if you try to follow the Z through turns & twisties. So really, with a SC, you're already nearing the precipice of performance & driveability in your Si; try to try push the Z, beyond just straight-line acceleration, and you'll see the difference. It's just a higher platform, performance-wise.

Well said. OP, just go buy the damn car already. ;)

kenchan

11-01-2013 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waaaasabi (Post 2550938)

I don't necessarily think that people here hate Civics or their drivers. I own a Civic and a 370z, and have driven a few Si's (with varying levels of modification).

And I also think that the fact that you've SC'd your Si should play a significant factor in your decision. Here's why: At 295WHP you probably are just as quick as, and perhaps even quicker than, a stock 370Z off the line... but the problem is with the inherent limitations of the Civic's chassis and drivetrain configuration. The Si is going to need quite a bit of suspension work to manage the same power as the Z; you're probably going to experience a lot of understeer and a ton of bodyroll if you try to follow the Z through turns & twisties. So really, with a SC, you're already nearing the precipice of performance & driveability in your Si; try to try push the Z, beyond just straight-line acceleration, and you'll see the difference. It's just a higher platform, performance-wise.

:gtfo2:

:rofl2:

edub370

11-01-2013 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 2550856)

i guess you can keep youre Measly POS FWD :tiphat:

:ugh2:

Classy...

Chuck33079

11-01-2013 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2550983)

:ugh2:

Classy...

Yeah, we've got a bunch of new members recently who seem to fit the mongoloid fanboy mold. :rolleyes:

nhbpcivicsi

11-01-2013 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2550702)

oh... dang. i thought so too. :D

if your mind is still thinking that a civic si with s/c is comparable to a 370Z, then you should seriously keep your si for a few more years. enjoy it.

and once you're tired of your car, then look again for a sports car. by that time Z35's will be out as well.

these z's are better appreciated by someone that's already played with turbos and s/c's and tuning and modding and all. someone that will drive it stock and feel good and understand why the car was made this way. then do a few simple mods to make it theirs, and enjoy the car the way it is. no "convincing" is necessary.

BTW, you ever watched bionic man and woman? :icon17: its amazing how fast they can run in slomo. :rofl2:

i dont see why it cant be comparable at this level? maybe not a better overall car but definitely comparable??

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elan (Post 2550884)

My Si is nowhere near ricey, and i still get a whole lot of attention from everyone just because its a 'Civic' and to people it makes ugly noises.. im kinda tired of that to be honest

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2550959)

Well said. OP, just go buy the damn car already. ;)

I plan on doing that! you might think that i wouldn't agree that a civic is a civic at the end of the day even if its faster than the Z, but i do! and thats one of the major reasons why im looking for a change! if i get the Z i plan on keeping it pretty much stock, performance wise, except for maybe the nismo exhaust. drop her a bit and powder coat the rims and thats about it

Chuck33079

11-01-2013 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2550993)

if i get the Z i plan on keeping it pretty much stock, performance wise, except for maybe the nismo exhaust. drop her a bit and powder coat the rims and thats about it

I've got $10 that says you end up like the vast majority of people here, and within a year or so you've done the usual intake/cats/catback/tune combo. It's too easy to be at 325whp or so, and you can't have less power than your previous car. It's not an upgrade if it isn't more powerful. :rofl2:

zae757

11-01-2013 01:44 PM

When I purchased my 370, I kept my honda civic 04; I drive the honda so I can realize of how much of a good decision I made. The maintenance is more of course but your speaking of a sports car compared to a honda. Maintenance is not going to be where the cost comes into play, it's the upgrades. I've had mine for about a year and a half and already dropped over 5k into the car...it's a definite must, but I'd suggest to have a second beater car or something...

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:49 PM.

Page 3 of 5

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page