whats the stock whp like on the Z? i've always wondered..

I dont understand why most people on here have the Z and a second beater, the only way that you would need a second car is if you live somewhere where is snows a whole lot..

Usually around 280whp/230trq on a dynojet.

There's no way he stays stock if he gets the Z. I agree he will most likely dot he CAI/HFC/CBE combo with a tune or at the very least a CBE. 325 whp isn't that easy to get though. If he goes TPs or LTHs he might get there on a cool day.

besides accelerating straight, wat are you comparing? the civic and Z are like apples to oranges.

if you're still into that heavy modding scheme, chances are you should probably stay where you are until you're satisified (or worn out), maybe even consider getting a sti/evo and play with that first before getting the Z.

otherwise you probably wont understand why the Z is the way it is and might not enjoy the car as much.

Good old PA... I have a beater civic too. Z is going to sleep this weekend. Sometimes you need beck seats....

Ummmm.... Let's do a "visual" comparison. Your b@d@@s Si and a stock 370Z.

tires would be wat, 225 vs 285 ?

Didn't mean to be rude but I really don't give a crap what kind of HP a car has. It means absolutely nothing except as a form of seeing what your mods are doing for you. Every dyno reads differently and even the same dyno can read different on different days. Also I have seen numbers that you know the operator screwed with. What I am getting at is WHP means nothing really to anyone but you. If you showed a time slip with a 12 second 1/4 mile I would be much more impressed.

FWIW I've owned a lot of cars and recently test drove several 370z and I get what you mean that it doesnt feel as fast as you would expect. It is because it has the most linear power delivery possible so you never get a surge and that lack of surge makes it feel slow. To prove the point, try to out accelerate something to give you relative speed such as passing on the highway. It is then you really can tell it has the power, its just a bit too smooth to feel powerful. This is part of why people usually love turbo's even if the ultimate power delivery is low, when they surge on boost, it feels much faster than it is.

One big thing you should notice between your Si and the Z is highway cruising.

EDIT: I should add it is also a very tall geared car, especially in 2nd which is as tall as a C5 Z06 with 130 less torque.

because the Z (for me at least) is a weekend/toy car. wanna keep it nice, keep the miles low, and not have to get it out in crappy weather or rack up the miles on it.

i know some people dont get that. But by doing that, every time i do get a chance to drive the Z, its like a "special" opportunity, and it keeps the car feeling new and exciting longer. IMO

I was just curious, then I learned something
 

After reading the op's post, I learned that the people here are very nice, much nicer than me. That's because I don't give a F if he buys a z or not. At least I learned something :icon17:

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LOLOL I came from zilvia

what's your point? for all you know my car might look 100 times better than yours! not just cuz I have a civic and you have a Z you can assume that yours automatically look better.. people have different tastes you know..

couldn't have said it better! im not sure how I felt when I drove it that's why I wanna drive it again tomorrow to confirm

I drove a Mugen Si and it was a lot of fun. The car is quick and I LOVE hitting VTEC yo! But in the end the z is way more fun because of the power, handling and speed. Which leads back to the point: Drive both and decide on your own if you have a brain and emotions you should be able to figure it out

I expected the decision to be much easier to make, but first impression wasn't all that great, although sitting in the Z it felt like a true sports car, unlike the Si which feels just a bit above an average car..

Please
 

Don't buy a Z....

I think the important thing to remember is you shouldn't buy it because you think you should want it or others think you should. You should only buy it if you want it. If you're wanting a sports car and not sold 100% on the Z you should test drive other options.

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You mad??? I never said my car looks better than yours! But now that you mention it, you obviously think civic IS better than Z.

So like other people have mentioned before... Don't Buy a Z!!!!!!

I didn't read all the replies, but if you find the right dealer you can get a better deal than that. Add about 4k and it's poss to be in a 2013 base+ sport with less than 3k on it. Especially from a dealer that sells them seasonally and lowers the prices the later it gets.

Buy a Z.

if you need to be convinced to buy a Z than stay away

you have to want to buy one, you shouldnt have to be sold on one

It took me about 2 weeks to really feel comfortable in the z and get a real feel for it

strange... it took me 2 minutes to really feel comfortable in the Z....


2 mins..... adjust the seat and mirrors.... :icon17::icon17:

Mine was love at 1st site.....get a feel for it, feel comfortable...PFFFT.

If you're worried about getting a better deal on your trade-in, why not go to a Carmax (if you have one in your area) and see what they'll give you for your car. Their offer usually is good for a week. Doing that will give you an idea how much to expect for your trade-in.

As for the Z, I bought mine used in '09 with 7,000 miles for $25k I have a MagBlack Sport Base 7AT. The dealer wanted $31k for it but since I didn't HAVE to buy it but I just really wanted one, I went with a low ball offer. The sales guy laughed at me but we went back and forth until we settled on $25k. Of course I told him a little white lie that another dealer across town was selling me one for $25k but I didn't like the color or some crap like that.
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The point is, make them an offer, you've got nothing to lose. Yeah, they may laugh at you but hey, it's your money. The Z was my DD until April last year, that's when my daughter was born. Now, it's my friday-sunday car. Mon-thursday I drive my beater Hyundai Elentra.

Goodluck with everything.

Convinced?
 

:eekdance:

Want to be convinced?

If you don't buy a Z I will kill you.

Jk:rofl2:

I just came back from the dealer, he offered me 8k 'allowance' for my Si, i simply laughed.. final price OTD came out to $19k for the Z, told him i wont be able to pay more than $15 OTD. im honestly not in a hurry or anything, i love my Si too much so if i get what im asking for i might consider.. another thing that threw me off is that he told me today that the car is a 'nissan buy back' or something like that, meaning the owner returned it to the dealership because there was an issue with the clutch and the door and the dealership gave him a new one and supposedly fixed this one that im looking at..

What year is your Si and how many miles are on it?

2007, 55K miles

I really like this thread
 

So you turned down $8k for a almost 12 year old Honda civic.

Fun thread. THanks.....

:icon14: 12 years old? Did I sleep a few years away last night?......last time I drink....

Strong math skills bro

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I check our source for trade in valve national average on your car is 9500, and no dealer will care its boosted or whatever mods you have. Sell it private party if you want more, its how the system works...Probably had a bad CSC, thats common unfortunately.

That's the best way to do it, especially if you don't want the mods to devalue the car. And if they won't play ball on the price on the Z, there's a bunch for sale here for similar prices.

Yeah man, too many signs pointing you not to get that particular Z. I think it would be best to either look at another one somewhere else or hold on to what you got. You said it yourself, you're not in a hurry. Might as well wait until you are happy with everything instead of being dissatisfied with your purchase.

OP- just on the first page of the for sale forums. I didn't pay attention to where they're located, since a Southwest Airlines ticket is under $200.

Nismo- http://www.the370z.com/370z-sale/811...deal-here.html

loaded 2010 Touring/Sport with nav and less miles- http://www.the370z.com/370z-sale/809...z-touring.html

I'm not vouching for either car, I'm just pointing out that there's other options, some of them better, at or around your price point.

I was rushing to take a walk before it rained :)
 

:icon17: As I started walking, I realized that I was thinking 7 & wrote 12........or drugs:p Got a 2.5+ mile brisk walk.

He also gets tax credit for his trade. Many if not most Honda owners like their own mods..Most of the time people's mods deduct the value.

It looks like this guy doesn't want to do the deal. Finding a buyer for a modded older car & getting the price he's looking for can take forever, if ever. He just wants us to beg him to buy a Z. That's how I see this, & I'm sticking to it.

Therefore my msg. to him is still, PLEASE DON'T BUY A Z......