Nissan execs diss FRS/BRZ
 

Nissan exec Andy Palmer derides Toyobaru coupes as 'midlife crisis' cars - Autoblog

This is a hysterical article....:roflpuke2:

he's obviously trolling to drum up interest before the tokyo motor show, but still funny. :tup:

Nissan better have something better then.

Silvia would be nice.

If the BRZ/FRS is the new midlife crisis car, the economy really has beaten us up. It used to be a Vette or Viper. :rofl2:

Be hilarious if they pulled out a FWD altima coupe. :rofl2:

Yep, just shows how the middle class is suffering. :shakes head:

If I'm looking for a midlife crisis car, I'll buy a used C6 for the same price as a new BRZ.

Yah, me too. Something with more ballz. :tup:

The FRS/BRZ is either a slow car that's fun to drive fast, or an entry-level rwd for kids graduating from their Tcs. It's a rwd civic Si, not a midlife crisis car. I like them, I'm just not caught up in the hype. My GF is buying one early next year. It's the perfect "starter sports car".

Yah like a glorified miata kinda?

Kinda. It's the hypothetical middle ground between a Miata and S2000, except it's not a convertible.

yah..

Toyota was also blaming subaru for the high manufacturing cost of the drivetrain or something...
If the frs/brz was $20k, it probably would not have been a midlife crisis car? More a 20 something car.

Why offer a detuned version of the vq37? That seems a little backwards. Even if they drop significant weight, idk why they would put the vq37 in it and make less hp out of it...

Obviously that part of the article is a rumor, so ill take it with a grain of salt lol.

So that it wont step on z toes or g37 since i assume this will have backseats.

The Z is my quarter life crisis car:ughdance:

z is an accomplishment car for a dad with family.

on the contrary, maxima is the failed attempt car for dad with family. :icon17:

I'm just glad car makers are realizing there's a place in the market for light, nimble rwd coupes again.

yep, me too. too bad half of the population will just weigh it down with their bigarse bodies.. :ugh:

Article is cute and campy...



Release the f-ing car Nissan.

Hey, I resemble that remark!!

Z is a "Lifetime Achievement Award" car for a grampa, who's raised and educated kids, provided for his spouse and comfortably retired!

Z is for the accomplished successful father who does not need to play taxi for his kids and the lot of friends they hang around with, as they are driving their own vehicles.

you'll do fine in the Z. :tup:

Arrogant bastard. That's when you loose the edge. Mr. Palmer sir -- my wife calls my decision to buy the Z as mid life crisis. What do you have to say to that?

I would agree with this, but remember what generation is getting older now.
A lot of these people grew up with AE86 or Datsun 240z so for them a RWD Toyota 4 banger might be the "best" they can go for with midlife, because they never learned to save or generate any net worth to play with.

Z is the car for a dad who's still single and avoiding finding out about his kids until they're well past 18.

(It's a common joke I make, so it kinda falls flat when you don't know me in person, but just go with it!)

going with it

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this is very true i thinks. a member from another forum found these stats and it was pretty interesting. :)

out of this bunch our 370z is the hardest car to keep for a dad with family cause he would need at least
another car to do daily tasks...given he is a responsible dad. :icon17:

at least for me, it's not easy owning a Z and having 3 other cars to take care... while raising 2 kids. not enough time. :rofl2:

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/w...oupe-Gen-Y.jpg

http://carnewscafe.com/wp-content/up...by_.gender.jpg

My EXACT thoughts! Before I commited to my WRX, I test drove the BRZ. It was like getting back into my 4 door 2007 Si again, but without the "vtec" cross over, it's actually a 2 seater, RWD, handles a lot better, and is as torqueless as the Si. :roflpuke2::icon14:

Toyobaru :gtfo2:

I look forward to buying my GF's after a few years when she wants more power. It's fun to drive and gets good gas mileage. It'll be a fantastic little daily driver. I'll happily buy one for $15k.

When you can get a thrashed one for $10k it'll be a fantastic track car.

the problem with brz is that it looks like a damn tomica car. needs wheels and lowering at minimum to make it look like an enthusast car.

someone in the market for a brz/frs probably either has a lot of money to spend, or no money to spend.

Probably more the latter than the former. :rofl2:

And the stock wheels are horrendous.

Consumer Reports survey found the BRZ/FRS worse than average in reliability.

I bought my 370Z to keep being the chic magnet I was when I had hair and a beat up Honda!!! Bald at 65, hoping a Z would make up for it!!!!!

Really don't see the FRS as a midlife crisis type car.. but the graph above does show a good amount of older drivers.. I suspect less than the 370z though

you and your CR. :shakes head:


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Fixed...

I wonder how much these stats are skewed by parents buying these cars for their kids. Especially the Mustang and Camaro. A survey of registrations wouldn't reveal who is actually driving these cars.

That's a really good point.