370Z Purple/Pearlish Paint Defects

WShade · 08-23-2009, 07:10 PM

You cant blame the color for those issues. More than likely those issues came from location, climate and age. Although, you do have to maintain red almost as much as you do black. Don't buy red or black if you are not meticulous and familiar with proper auto detailing.

Vectorsumio · 08-24-2009, 11:13 AM

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You cant blame the color for those issues. More than likely those issues came from location, climate and age. Although, you do have to maintain red almost as much as you do black. Don't buy red or black if you are not meticulous and familiar with proper auto detailing.

And you can take that statement to the bank!!! Well Said!

Blown32 · 08-24-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WShade

You cant blame the color for those issues. More than likely those issues came from location, climate and age. Although, you do have to maintain red almost as much as you do black. Don't buy red or black if you are not meticulous and familiar with proper auto detailing.

For your information being meticulous and familiar with PROPER DETAILING has nothing to do with DEFECTIVE PAINT AND THE PAINTING PROCESS!So I don't know where you are coming from as maybe you don't also!
The point everyone is trying to make that has defects in the paint jobs and paint on the new Z is garbage.So your statement has nothing to do with that issue.
I for one know all about detailng and meticulous PROPER CAR CARE.I have had many black cars and have NEVER had such problems with paint as the new Z!
As for the poster that said "get used to it"! Well his statement pretty much speaks for it self about his character!
We are on here to discuss our likes and dislikes and problems we may be having related to the paint on our new Z.Please understand the frustration we who are having these problems feel after buying a new car.It doesn't matter if it cost $20,$30 or $40,000 dollars.It is a new vehicle and Nissan didn't just start making cars yesterday!Price on a NEW car shouldn't matter as far as quality of the paint job!

WShade · 08-24-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Blown32

For your information being meticulous and familiar with PROPER DETAILING has nothing to do with DEFECTIVE PAINT AND THE PAINTING PROCESS!So I don't know where you are coming from as maybe you don't also!
The point everyone is trying to make that has defects in the paint jobs and paint on the new Z is garbage.So your statement has nothing to do with that issue.
I for one know all about detailng and meticulous PROPER CAR CARE.I have had many black cars and have NEVER had such problems with paint as the new Z!
As for the poster that said "get used to it"! Well his statement pretty much speaks for it self about his character!
We are on here to discuss our likes and dislikes and problems we may be having related to the paint on our new Z.Please understand the frustration we who are having these problems feel after buying a new car.It doesn't matter if it cost $20,$30 or $40,000 dollars.It is a new vehicle and Nissan didn't just start making cars yesterday!Price on a NEW car shouldn't matter as far as quality of the paint job!

You need to calm down. I was responding to this statement:

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Originally Posted by Benibiker

Red is a bad color on any car, the paint just doesn't stand up to the elements. Friend of mine had a 2003 Z and the red paint had come off the top of the mirrors. I had a 1999 red Mustang and the roof slowly became spotted over the years. Also had a red Mazda that had paint coming off the roof, hood and trunk. I waxed those cars like crazy, just didn't help. Just get another color...

Maybe you need to read the entire dialog prior to flying off the handle. I hope you have a blessed day.

Blown32 · 08-25-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WShade

You need to calm down. I was responding to this statement:

Maybe you need to read the entire dialog prior to flying off the handle. I hope you have a blessed day.

Thanks for the blessing!
As for flying off the handle I'am a very calm man.Just say it as I see it!Have a nice day!

ougirlkel · 08-25-2009, 06:18 PM

So here's the latest...

I was supposed to meet with my Sales Manager from my Nissan Dealer along with the GM of that dealer...of course the GM flaked and my Sales Manager can't make any decisions for anything! So, he basically told me that "they have done everything" they can do for me. In other words, which he admitted, Nissan is perfectly willing to expect someone to pay full price for a brand new 370Z with paint defects. CRAP! If I were a new customer off of the street, I'm sure these paint defects would be used as some type of bargaining chip and I'd get a discount of some type off the car...same with hail damage, etc!

I basically told him where to go and that this was not an acceptable replacement for the first car, with the same paint defects, that Nissan stated they would not hold a warranty on that paint!!!!!!

He left the room for a while and came back to tell me that someone from Nissan Regional would be coming in tomorrow to look at the paint defects on this car. So...we'll see...

I pretty much think I'm getting screwed on this deal! Still don't have my car!!!

Oh, and I was going to try to get photos of the defects but they left the car so freak'n dirty there was no way to get any good photos...I tried...!!!!

BanningZ · 08-25-2009, 07:07 PM

Maybe the Z isn't for you. Have you looked at the G37's, or other cars of similar fortitude? It sounds like Nissan actually has gone above and beyond trying to help, but unless you can choose one from the factory, there is only so much the dealership can do after trying to correct the problem.

Good luck with the paint issue, I hope it all gets resolved to your satisfaction.

ougirlkel · 08-25-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BanningZ

Maybe the Z isn't for you. Have you looked at the G37's, or other cars of similar fortitude? It sounds like Nissan actually has gone above and beyond trying to help, but unless you can choose one from the factory, there is only so much the dealership can do after trying to correct the problem.

Good luck with the paint issue, I hope it all gets resolved to your satisfaction.

Unfortunately that seems to be what it's coming down to. However, the dealer could do more and offer me an additional discount on the car. I will have to do an entirely new purchase agreement on this second one so the price isn't set in stone as of now. Or...they could just let me out of the deal entirely and I will wait for the 2010's to come out and hope for better quality paint.

The sad part is that I really LOVE this car...it's just beautiful and I love the ride...but I do expect quality paint and should settle for no less than that.

JungleB · 08-25-2009, 07:46 PM

Here's some interesting information on how to deal with paint defects on new cars. If worse comes to worse you can spend a little bit of money and take them to small claims court. From what you're saying it sounds like they would want to settle before court since the paint is defective.

Scroll down to the Getting a paint/defect settlement section.
LemondAidCars.com

Benibiker · 08-27-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by WShade

You cant blame the color for those issues. More than likely those issues came from location, climate and age. Although, you do have to maintain red almost as much as you do black. Don't buy red or black if you are not meticulous and familiar with proper auto detailing.

I agree and haven't bought another red car.

08-27-2009, 01:12 AM

I'm sorry, I don't see any purple defect in this picture

. I see a beautiful Z and a pretty girl.

simota1 · 08-27-2009, 03:24 AM

Sup man... im feel really bad for you... i have a solid red also but i dont have any defects of purplish or watever ur saying.... i live on a small island and the weather here sucks not to mention the harsh salt conditions ur car is put through... but even then no purple haze... the only complaint to it was that there was fish eye reaction on the roof... but they gave me a discount and i didnt really care much after that...

all im gonna say is hang in there i know ur frustrated and u feel like batting the z cuz of the frustration ur going through but dont worry in the end itll be worth it...

here are pics of my z... first is recent but the pic is high def taken by my good friend but over saturated from wat people say... the second is with a regular camera i took... still looks like that bright shiny and red... no purple...

mrmixitup · 08-27-2009, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ougirlkel

It doesn't have the quality of a $50,000 car!!!!!!

LOL. This must be your first Nissan. You want to see horrendus paint? Try this:

1. Walk up to a 2002 Sentra SE-R Spec-V*.
2. Lightly apply pressure to the paint using your fingernail.
3. Witness the carnage.

*This experiment will also work on 02-06 Altimas.

Seriously, you couldn't even wet sand a B15 Sentra. If you did, there would be nothing left.

Blackbelt · 08-27-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ougirlkel

So, I am so comforted to know I'm not the only one having problems with my BRAND NEW RED 370Z!

I bought it in June and immediately noticed little purple/pearlish spots all over the car. You couldn't feel them or get them off and the dealer tried to do some stuff and had no success. Nissan actually had someone from HQ come in and look at this car and they said "get her a new one". So after a long process of trying to find my exact same car...I got a new one. I picked it up last week...and it has the same purple spots (not as many, but still...). They had called it "fallout" as a result of pollution...the first car came from S. Texas. But this second car came from S. Dakota...so I doubt it's pollution!

I took it to my paint guy and he said it looks like moisture got on the car before they did the clear coat and is trapped in between the red and clear. So, his concern was that it may try to come out someday and mess up the paint.

I took the car back today and told them I wasn't satisfied and just don't even want it anymore. It is rediculous to spend this much money on a car and it not be PERFECT...I'm tired of messing with it. As I was leaving the lot, I stopped at the red (lower end model) they have on display...it has the same crap on it...purple/pearlish spots in the paint....REDICULOUS!!!!

Nissan really needs to check the quality controls on their paint process!!!!

I purchased my Solid Red 370Z in July 2009. A couple of weeks after that while it was sitting out in the hot North Carolina sun I noticed little paint bubbles on the hood and front fender. They looked like droplets of water but they were firm to the touch. I really stressed out about it but while I was trying to take a picture of them to send to my salesman I went to clean some bug splatter off the car with a damp cloth and when I ran the cloth over the bubbles they rubbed off and there was no trace of them ever having been there. The bubbles still appear, only smaller, and only appear in the hot sun. I am meticulous about detailing my 370Z at least once a week so it's not tree sap or something of that nature. My latest theory is that either the clear coat is oozing something because there is no red on the cloth or maybe the "First Place Finish" car wax the dealer had on it when I bought it is bubbling up in the hot sun. Has anyone else with the bubble problem tried wiping them off with a damp cloth?

p j turner · 08-28-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ougirlkel

So, I am so comforted to know I'm not the only one having problems with my BRAND NEW RED 370Z!

I bought it in June and immediately noticed little purple/pearlish spots all over the car. You couldn't feel them or get them off and the dealer tried to do some stuff and had no success. Nissan actually had someone from HQ come in and look at this car and they said "get her a new one". So after a long process of trying to find my exact same car...I got a new one. I picked it up last week...and it has the same purple spots (not as many, but still...). They had called it "fallout" as a result of pollution...the first car came from S. Texas. But this second car came from S. Dakota...so I doubt it's pollution!

I took it to my paint guy and he said it looks like moisture got on the car before they did the clear coat and is trapped in between the red and clear. So, his concern was that it may try to come out someday and mess up the paint.

I took the car back today and told them I wasn't satisfied and just don't even want it anymore. It is rediculous to spend this much money on a car and it not be PERFECT...I'm tired of messing with it. As I was leaving the lot, I stopped at the red (lower end model) they have on display...it has the same crap on it...purple/pearlish spots in the paint....REDICULOUS!!!!

Nissan really needs to check the quality controls on their paint process!!!!

Ifeel the need to reply to this ,as my RED G T R, IS having the same problem.I live in the uk but have never bought a RED car before.I have very soft paint with very small raised spots,also bird poo is etching right into the paint .Nissan is investigating.While the garage has offered to buff the paint.I think this is stupid to try this. I will keep you posted on this.I previously owned 2 350z s,but they were metallic silver/blue,no probs with them.P J T paul from uk

08-23-2009, 07:10 PM	#46 (permalink)
WShade Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 765 Drives: 09 370Z T/S/N Rep Power: 188	You cant blame the color for those issues. More than likely those issues came from location, climate and age. Although, you do have to maintain red almost as much as you do black. Don't buy red or black if you are not meticulous and familiar with proper auto detailing. __________________ Q50S Q60 RS400

08-25-2009, 07:07 PM	#52 (permalink)
BanningZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: nowhere Posts: 5,478 Drives: 06' Nismo Frontier Rep Power: 29	Maybe the Z isn't for you. Have you looked at the G37's, or other cars of similar fortitude? It sounds like Nissan actually has gone above and beyond trying to help, but unless you can choose one from the factory, there is only so much the dealership can do after trying to correct the problem. Good luck with the paint issue, I hope it all gets resolved to your satisfaction. __________________ Become a Premium Member: Click HERE MB 06' Nismo VQ40DE

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simota1 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Dededo, Guam Posts: 6,642 Drives: solid red 370z 6mt Rep Power: 406	Sup man... im feel really bad for you... i have a solid red also but i dont have any defects of purplish or watever ur saying.... i live on a small island and the weather here sucks not to mention the harsh salt conditions ur car is put through... but even then no purple haze... the only complaint to it was that there was fish eye reaction on the roof... but they gave me a discount and i didnt really care much after that... all im gonna say is hang in there i know ur frustrated and u feel like batting the z cuz of the frustration ur going through but dont worry in the end itll be worth it... here are pics of my z... first is recent but the pic is high def taken by my good friend but over saturated from wat people say... the second is with a regular camera i took... still looks like that bright shiny and red... no purple... __________________ *TOP SECRET/POWERHOUSE AMUSE/ARC/DAYTONA RACING/VARIS/MINES/GANADOR/J-LINE/WORK EMOTION CR KAI/GT SPEC/CARBON SIGNAL/ZOOM ENGINEERING/ CARBON FIBER ELEMENT/STILLEN/*

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08-25-2009, 06:18 PM	#51 (permalink)
ougirlkel Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 22 Drives: 370Z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 17	So here's the latest... I was supposed to meet with my Sales Manager from my Nissan Dealer along with the GM of that dealer...of course the GM flaked and my Sales Manager can't make any decisions for anything! So, he basically told me that "they have done everything" they can do for me. In other words, which he admitted, Nissan is perfectly willing to expect someone to pay full price for a brand new 370Z with paint defects. CRAP! If I were a new customer off of the street, I'm sure these paint defects would be used as some type of bargaining chip and I'd get a discount of some type off the car...same with hail damage, etc! I basically told him where to go and that this was not an acceptable replacement for the first car, with the same paint defects, that Nissan stated they would not hold a warranty on that paint!!!!!! He left the room for a while and came back to tell me that someone from Nissan Regional would be coming in tomorrow to look at the paint defects on this car. So...we'll see... I pretty much think I'm getting screwed on this deal! Still don't have my car!!! Oh, and I was going to try to get photos of the defects but they left the car so freak'n dirty there was no way to get any good photos...I tried...!!!!

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JungleB Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: PA Posts: 76 Drives: 96 VW Passat GLX Rep Power: 17	Here's some interesting information on how to deal with paint defects on new cars. If worse comes to worse you can spend a little bit of money and take them to small claims court. From what you're saying it sounds like they would want to settle before court since the paint is defective. Scroll down to the Getting a paint/defect settlement section. LemondAidCars.com

08-27-2009, 01:12 AM	#56 (permalink)
SB350z Guest Posts: n/a	I'm sorry, I don't see any purple defect in this picture . I see a beautiful Z and a pretty girl.