shop tells me i have frame damage!!

speedfreek

Not sure other than go to a different Firestone and see if they can do better. I have the lifetime alignment with Firestone and ended up going to a different one further away as I did not like the techs at the one closest to where I live. With that said I get my alignments done at a Ford dealership now as their alighnment rack is in the ground and doesn't require me to remove my front bumper to get the car up on it. They did an awesome job getting my alignment dialed in for the track.

The only thing I can think of as to why your rear is at -3.7 camber is if they didn't tighten everything up correctly and you went on some spirited runs and each time you stressed the suspension it worked its way out more and more. It happened to me at Zdayz this year. I got an alignment done before I left at Firestone. And by my last run on the Dragon one of my rears was visibly way out of spec at -3+ camber. Since then I have completely changed shops and haven't had any issues with my alignment. FYI I was running with Swift springs and 20mm spacers on all 4.

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PersianLegacy

you know i bet that is what happened as well! they didnt tighten up the bolts the first time and as i drove the car it just got pulled out. now here is my question. how come the jackass keep telling me that he cant push it out anymore and this is as far as it goes? couldnt he just keep pushing it out till it get back to where its suppose to be?!..

speedfreek

The problem isn't the fact you can go -3.7 give or take. It is trying to go back in towards spec. -1.5 let's say. When lowering depending on other variables you will most likely need the rear camber arms and toe bolts to get the Camber and Toe back to spec in order to prolong tire life. I would go to a different shop as they sound incompetent at your current one. See if they can do a better job with the alignment with what you have now. It won't cost you anything if you got the lifetime package. Then if they confirm that is the best they can do with the stock hardware you will need to upgrade to aftermarket arms for more adjustability.

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PersianLegacy

yea i do have the lifetime warranty. they did the second alignment for free. I will try and take it to a diff firestone. and hope they can do a better job.

what i am scared of is that they had forgotten to tighten the bolt, and as a result of me driving, something is now actually bent.....

what would be a correct camber adjustment for rear anyways? i really dont want to keep chewing the hell out of my tires..they arent cheap..

speedfreek

Depends on your purpose. Just for street and only worried about tire life. You would want to be around -1.5. Obviously this has an effect on handling but you can't have both. I would shoot for -1.5 camber and close as you can get to 0 toe if your goal is to preserve your tires. Toe is worse than camber when you have a misaligned car. Toe angle will eat a brand new set of tires up in a few months time.

Stock specs for rear:

Camber
-2.16 to -1.17

Toe
.09 to .21

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