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alvinmathew88 08-13-2009 01:58 PM

@FusZ, does that mean your going to have to break in the engine all over again, and do the whole 1200 mile break-in process?

Lol, My Civic with 215k miles, doesnt burn any oil, (Try that on for size) except for a rear main seal leak, which i plan on fixing along with a timing belt change.

kannibul 08-13-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by earwicker7 (Post 149917)
Another bonus of taking care of your car is the appreciation you will get from others. The only thing I'm really qualified to do is check fluids and belts and such, but even this gets me props from my neighbors and co-workers. When I get to work in the morning, I usually spend five minutes or so with the California Car Duster and sometimes pop the hood to check a few things, and I always throw a cover on top of the car (there's no parking garage, so it's out in the open); there have been at least ten people in my building whom I would otherwise never have talked to that have started off good conversations with "I love how you take care of your car!" or something similar.

Jeez, you guys are making it sound like I don't take care of my vehicles and just drive them...

Not the case. I just never *had* to check the oil between changes, because I knew the engine was built well enough to not leak or burn oil.

I've done my own brakes, wheel bearings (even overtightened one and had it bust up a bearing), plug changes, and I'm about to replace the fuel filler neck on my truck, along with the injectors, fuel filter, and coil packs - tire rotations, etc...

But, like I said, I've never had to check the oil between changes because the engines were tight enough to not burn oil. This car costs 3x what I paid for our civic new off the lot. I expected better...that is my point, and I think the point of others that have issue with this.

FuszNissan 08-13-2009 02:10 PM

Yes. Fun Fun... I believe that my engine was burning oil , but just bad seals.
PLEASE PLEASE...
http://images21.fotki.com/v848/photo...27/STOP-vi.jpg

earwicker7 08-13-2009 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pheonix (Post 149920)
As much as I'd love to throw a cover over the car when I get it...I work downtown at a criminal justice center...still waiting on my parking garage permit and from the looks of things, it'll be a long time to go yet before its given to me. You'd think that working at the hub, and with officers coming and going left and right it'd be safe enough...but you'd be surprised how many cars have been broken into on the lot, in the garage, and on the street.

If I cover that car up, its just begging for someone to take a closer look. Best I can do is have a state of the art alarm system ready for install on purchase, and park next to a squad car whenever possible :shakes head:

On the plus side...the contacts you make with said officers really do benefit you on the street...cough cough cough.

Talk to the cops, they'll tell you that a cover is far more effective than an alarm system. Research shows that thieves want to get in and out as fast as possible (most thieves don't look at how valuable something is, but how easy it would be to get away with), and a custom car cover can't just be ripped off, as they fit like a glove. Even knowing that it would only take them 15-20 seconds to get it off is a MAJOR turn-off to them.

Also, keep in mind that car alarms were great back when nobody had them, but nowadays they are virtually useless in crowded areas. Sure, if you live out in the middle of nowhere, you'll notice your car alarm going off in the middle of the night. But nobody pays any attention to a car alarm going off in a parking lot because they know that, 99.9% of the time, it got set off by someone with heavy feet walking by. I know that at our building, car alarms are routinely ignored unless they don't shut down after a minute or so (at which point everyone hates whomever the owner is for an hour).

WShade 08-13-2009 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 149975)
Jeez, you guys are making it sound like I don't take care of my vehicles and just drive them...

Not the case. I just never *had* to check the oil between changes, because I knew the engine was built well enough to not leak or burn oil.

So you say that any engine which goes through a little oil is not built well?

mrarroyo 08-13-2009 05:51 PM

This thread made go and look at my oil level and it is as it was when the oil was last changed (I always change the oil and filter on all my new cars and did so at 985 miles on the 370Z using the Nissan ester oil). I check my oil at every fill up, last thing I do after filling up and cleaning the windshield and rear window, it is not 15 minutes but a good 8-10 minutes.

As a past owner of a 2004 Vette I can say that mine did not burn any oil. Although I never reached triple digit high speeds I loved to accelerate fast out of every stop signal. ;)

Forrest 08-13-2009 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 149801)
No...I guess not. For an enthusiast forum I'm also shocked at those who PAY to have everything done for them...No one is taking the time to learn the car. How many have a full service Manual downloaded? Few I'd guess. Heck, Most do not even read the owners manual. You guys must all be rolling in $$.

I've had a few cars, and I can tell you that I have fully paid for my Z with the money I've saved over the years by teaching myself, reading manuals, and spinning a few wrenches to maintain and mod my vehicles....

if i had a lift i would do everything my self. Right now i am currently looking at the cost of a cheap lift that wont fall down on my head but so far its looking expensive.

mannyz 08-13-2009 06:00 PM

I am lost, I read the whole thing and I still dont understand how a new engine, with just over 3000miles will break the whole engine. Did you have any mods out of the extraordinary that may caused the problem. Cause it doesnt make sense to me

Red370 08-13-2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 150194)
if i had a lift i would do everything my self. Right now i am currently looking at the cost of a cheap lift that wont fall down on my head but so far its looking expensive.

have you seen these?
www.superlifts.com/fourpostlifts/sj7000.html

I hear they are great for small garages.

WShade 08-13-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 150194)
if i had a lift i would do everything my self. Right now i am currently looking at the cost of a cheap lift that wont fall down on my head but so far its looking expensive.

You don't need a lift. All you need is a good jack and 4 jack stands for anything you may want to tackle.

FricFrac 08-13-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mannyz (Post 150195)
I am lost, I read the whole thing and I still dont understand how a new engine, with just over 3000miles will break the whole engine. Did you have any mods out of the extraordinary that may caused the problem. Cause it doesnt make sense to me

From what I can tell there has been three or so on the forum with engines that failed so lets say 10 out of 10,000 with failed engines? That's incredible (as in good)! All of which were under warranty as far as I can tell.

.1% failure rate

Red370 08-13-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WShade (Post 150215)
You don't need a lift. All you need is a good jack and 4 jack stands for anything you may want to tackle.

true, thats how I roll. But you really can get a lift on the cheap.

Modshack 08-13-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 150194)
if i had a lift i would do everything my self. Right now i am currently looking at the cost of a cheap lift that wont fall down on my head but so far its looking expensive.


I've had my Bend-pak MD6-XP for 7 years now. You canstill buy these new/delivered for in the $1600 range...

http://images27.fotki.com/v992/photo...SC02405-vi.jpg

Modshack 08-13-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mannyz (Post 150195)
I am lost, I read the whole thing and I still dont understand how a new engine, with just over 3000miles will break the whole engine. Did you have any mods out of the extraordinary that may caused the problem. Cause it doesnt make sense to me

Parts fail. It's not a perfect world..

kannibul 08-13-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WShade (Post 150171)
So you say that any engine which goes through a little oil is not built well?

I'm saying that an engine shouldn't burn oil, otherwise it's not built well.

It might be well engineered, but, it shouldn't burn oil.

Modshack 08-13-2009 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 150249)
I'm saying that an engine shouldn't burn oil, otherwise it's not built well.

Wrong. Ask any Ferrari owner

kannibul 08-13-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 150253)
Wrong.

Really, how so?

Are you talking about the microscopic film left in the cylinders? Sure, that can burn - that won't put much of a dent in a quart over 3000 miles.

I'm not speaking in terms of absolutes. On the microscopic level, all cars burn oil. I didn't think I'd need to clarify my point to that extent...

Modshack 08-13-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 150256)
I didn't think I'd need to clarify my point to that extent...


No you don't. You've made an incredibly big deal about this in numerous threads, yet you haven't demonstrated that your car even burns oil...Heck, by your own admission you never even check it so how would you know? Your expectation that everything should be perfect is unrealistic. Especially when you're as casual about common sense basic maintenance as you seem to be.

VCuomo 08-13-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mannyz (Post 150195)
I am lost, I read the whole thing and I still dont understand how a new engine, with just over 3000miles will break the whole engine. Did you have any mods out of the extraordinary that may caused the problem. Cause it doesnt make sense to me

Ever heard the expression "Sh!t happens."? ;)

kannibul 08-13-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 150262)
No you don't. You've made an incredibly big deal about this in numerous threads, yet you haven't demonstrated that your car even burns oil...Heck, by your own admission you never even check it so how would you know? Your expectation that everything should be perfect is unrealistic. Especially when you're as casual about common sense basic maintenance as you seem to be.

Sorry that you're taking my posts from a strong literal perspective.

Do you think it's OK for a 40,000 car to burn 1qt of oil per 1,000 miles?

What about 3/4, 1/2...at what point do you find it acceptable?

Now, contrast that with a Honda Civic, that has a 6000 mile oil change interval, and the engine holds 3 quarts of oil. What would happen if that engine burned oil like what some have posted here with their Z? After the first oil change, I've never checked it between changes. I do check it the day of, and after I'm done...but between; nope - I don't need to. I do 15K oil changes now...still not a problem. 15K on a Z, that eats a 1/2 quart every 3K would likely blow up.

As for my Z - I checked it a few weeks ago. However, at the time I didn't have a baseline because I never checked it before then. Since then, I've changed the oil and have a new baseline. Time will tell if mine has a leak problem or not. To be honest, I'm debating on running the old oil through a coffee filter to see what turns up.


Anyhow...blame me for the Z burning oil - I don't care. All I can say is Nissan better hope it DOESN'T happen to me.

Modshack 08-13-2009 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 150274)
Sorry that you're taking my posts from a strong literal perspective.

So you'e just doing this for attention? Your posts make less and less sense as time goes on.

Unbelievable..:shakes head:

kannibul 08-13-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 150253)
Ask any Ferrari owner

How many people actually drive a Ferrari as much as people on here drive a Z?

kannibul 08-13-2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 150280)
So you'e just doing this for attention?

Unbelievable..:shakes head:

No....:icon14:

You also ignored my question...what's acceptable to you?

dad 08-13-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 150274)
After the first oil change, I've never checked it between changes. I do check it the day of, and after I'm done...but between; nope - I don't need to.

You really need to check your oil on some kind of a regular basis!

Modshack 08-13-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 150284)
No....:icon14:

You also ignored my question...what's acceptable to you?

I've responded to plenty of posts on this. Key word: Break-in. Live with it

Also you might want to check that dipstick on your Honda. I've hd several (about 30 actually) and they take more than 3 quarts.

kannibul 08-13-2009 07:31 PM

screw it, I'm done. Agree to disagree...

kannibul 08-13-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 150294)
I've responded tp [lenty of posts on this. Key word: Break-in

Also you might want to check that dipstick on your Honda. I've hd several (about 30 actually) and they take more than 3 quarts.

2005 CivicLX, 3 quarts. 5w20 oil

This is what i can find quickly...
2005 Honda Civic Coupe Specifications - Honda - Press Releases - Selected Story

Modshack 08-13-2009 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 150295)
screw it, I'm done. ...

Good

Forrest 08-13-2009 10:12 PM

not to hijack this thread more than its already going but...

Can any one point me to some jacks that can fit under the car it self and let me lift it for jack stands?

dad 08-13-2009 10:16 PM

^Sears.com but it's expensive!


http://www.sears.com/shc/s/search_10...ord=floor+jack

FuszNissan 08-13-2009 10:19 PM

This thread went to shat

dad 08-13-2009 10:21 PM

^But it was entertaining!


http://www.smartsynthetics.com/pdf/T...-0403-2004.pdf

WShade 08-13-2009 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 150603)
not to hijack this thread more than its already going but...

Can any one point me to some jacks that can fit under the car it self and let me lift it for jack stands?

I have these:
RallySportDirect.com - Takata LDS Ramps

Keep your current jack.

FuszNissan 08-13-2009 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 150634)

Ture!

WShade 08-13-2009 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 150631)
This thread went to shat

But, we had foreplay, climax and resolution :tup:

All this thread needs now is spam.

zZSportZz 08-13-2009 10:46 PM

Actually. Our cars have a new problem *sigh*

They burn gas. I just checked my gas level and I burned about 4 quarts on my commute today :(

wstar 08-13-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by zZSportZz (Post 150695)
Actually. Our cars have a new problem *sigh*

They burn gas. I just checked my gas level and I burned about 4 quarts on my commute today :(

I think you need to start a new thread and poll everyone else about the gas consumption issue. I see a recall in the cards. ;)

Minicobra1 08-14-2009 04:24 AM

Yep, my car also burns rubber :tiphat:

CBRich 08-14-2009 10:36 AM

The only good thing from this thread was that Bendpak lift>

FuszNissan 08-14-2009 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 150997)
The only good thing from this thread was that Bendpak lift>

+1 Who started this worthless thread anyway:ughdance:


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