Next Z to be unveiled in 2013 Tokyo auto show.

Pitch

Btw thanks for the summary <3

I'm actually in the market for a brz right now. Friend got his and I love it. It would save me 400 a month over my stang...and even more if I got the 2015. And I'm looking to buy a house so I need more money. I'm actually kinda interested in the idx now. Have to go look up stats

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Firebase99

Really? I have threads/posts all over various forums initially spitting on the twins. Over the months, and with some actual seat time in a BRZ at Sebring along with feedback and observation Ive grown to really love them. FANTASTIC chassis and platform. That being said, youre not setting any record lap times in one or getting to the stop light first. Same can be said of the 370 though. They ARE truthfully slow. However, they are soooo tossable, great feedback, and you really dont think about the lack of power(most of the time) because they really are great fun.

Chuck33079

I knew you'd come around. The only knock on the car is the motor and the price tag. If they had a 300hp version it would be worth every penny of 30k.

I think in ten years (assuming it makes it that long) it'll be the new miata in that there will be dozens of them at every track event and they're faster through every corner than 95% of the rest of the field.

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Pitch

They have concepts that tada has said arent way off for a convert. And something about a 2015 engine change. And already looking for a second gen for 2020 ish (my guess on the year)

I never hated them. I actually loved them. But for some reason I had to have a high hp car and that was the stang. Now I want to save money and everyone says how fun they are, even tho they are so slow. Ill probably end up turboing it and out 350 to the wheels after a couple years or sooner.

370 is as much as I'd like to say it...out of the questiin. Same payment as the 5.0, more on insurance, and I doubt much diff in gas consumption (I have a heavy foot....everywhere)

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Chuck33079

I'm a huge fan of it for what it is. Small, light 2+2 (if we want to consider the +2 as big enough for humans) that handles great once you ditch the Prius tires and gets great gas mileage. If I owned one, I'd swap the tires and wheels, replace the sways and springs, stick with bolt-ons and a tune and enjoy my 30mpg/200whp. Sideways.

I was really pushing my GF to get one of these so I could buy it from her when she outgrew it in a few years. I'd handle all the maintenance and mod it on the sly while she had it, so I'd pick up the perfect little fun DD for $15k or so, which is the most a 200hp car is worth to me.

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MMC Racing

Tell her to lay off the big mac and fries...

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Chuck33079

Yep. Not a car to buy used. Especially after the owners all learn to drift in it.

That's more a comment on how the car is really a "My First RWD" than anything else, but thanks for your input.

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Firebase99

I agree with everything you said except, the bold. From what Ive experienced, seen, no. Not that detracts it, like I said, you wont be setting any records, nor will you in a Z. Its an in your face car saying, "Hey, Im down on the punch, I dare you to hate me." You cant, its that fun. Ive been saying since it came out, I HATED it, under powered, over priced. Time and 1st hand experience has taught me...I love it. Alot.