I love dealing with tail gaters from stop signs. I used to do this all the time
on my Goldwing because the power to weight ratio allows you to be way up the road before the person who had been tail gating even gets going.

Same with the Z about the time your hitting resume on the cruise they are a distant memory and only get back on your *** if they massively speed. First and fore most I focus on keeping my car as safe as possible, what ever type of driving that takes for the moment.

:rofl2: ok, now that's funny.


yah, i hate bicycle ridors too. :shakes head: i have a lot of them in the wooded area where i take my Z out on weekend drives. most of them ride single file, but you always have these hotshotmofo's with their big muscular bodies thinking they can ride in the center of the road and not yield to traffic or obey traffic signs. :mad:

they really need to make bicycle ridors to pay insurance and have special licenses if they are going to ride on public roads.

It really depends on my mood but I do both aggressive and defensive driving when necessary. I usually let people out though and I always watch out for motorcyclists.

Jeremy Clarkson has the perfect shirt for bicyclists

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I grew up and have lived in California my whole life and LA drivers are different. While driving 85MPH and following two other cars at a closer than normal distance. Asshat after another would drive inches off my bumper. I'd wonder where they thought I could go. I hate being tailgated so I'd let them by and it would happen a few moments later by the next cockgobbler.

Outside of LA I want to drive faster than the next car. So I try and get ahead at every opportunity. On the few times I've been wrong, I let the car behind me go and try and keep up with him.

nissan- that t-shirt + run me over at your leisure.

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someone needs to figure out an accessory for car wheels that would allow you to do this to bikers

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mr.jar- lol... i remember a story on cnn where some guy had an altercation with a cyclist. he slammed his brakes in front of the dumb arse bikers, and the bikers smashed into the guy's car.

the driver was sentenced to jail. :ugh:

that's mean lol :icon18:

The best revenge I ever heard of was a guy who slowed down to follow a group of six bikers who were riding three abreast. He turned on his hazards like he was part of their crew. They finally stopped at a cafe, and he pretended to drive off. He parked around the corner, and while they were inside, he let the air out of all their tires. He left several of these laying on the ground next to the bikes :icon17:

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I just prefer to go a bit faster than the traffic flow. I rather be in front than behind some dumb drivers. But when i am in front, i try to not go as fast or noticeable for a speed trap. Thats my daily routine :D

I thought if you rear ended anyone it was your fault regardless. Once again a protected class emerges.

We just had a biker sentenced for killing a pedestrian in a crosswalk. Most thought the bike would get off Scott free. Hooray for justice (sorry about poor individual).

hahaha. :rofl2:

best revenge for me was watching a biker ride through a stop sign and getting pulled over by a sheriff. lol

I've been in LA area for the last few days for work and I seriously don't understand bikers here in being able to drive between cars wherever they go. That's not the case in IL. I've seen plenty of crazed bikers driving around, cutting people off, weaving in and out of traffic and narrowly getting between cars while going well above the speed limit on the highway. I know its legal here in CA to drive between cars like that and apparently its even a question on the written exam but it just seems crazy. It was a madhouse yesterday on the 10 heading into LA with these idiots. Is there a high rate of biker accidents in CA? I don't see how there wouldn't be with people like this and people changing lanes without seeing a biker. It's definitely a different aspect in driving then what we have in the Chicago area.

bikers in chicago are huge and wont fit between two cars...

Bike accidents are definitely lower in Cali when compared to the rest of the US but I guess because its legal here, bikers don't feel the need to be asshats about lane splitting as opposed to other bikers in other states.

We do have our fair share of squids though who weave in and out of traffic.
EDIT: looks like you're talking about the squids XD

Most of the bikers I know don't do that since its legal.

Also its legal because it makes sense, bikes are at a higher risk when sitting in traffic as opposed to cars and it helps with traffic decongestion. Just think about it, that's one less vehicle in front of you.

That is true. :) They're more about the big Harleys and not the sport bikes like I've seen out here. Don't think they would be fitting on a sport bike.

yep! funny how they get away with them loud hogs and complain about import car fart cans. lol

I'm an aggressive driver doesn't matter if I'm driving my Ranger, daughter's Versa. wife's SUV or my Z. Is my style of driving not the vehicle.

I have been nailed in my Ranger and wife's SUV, none on the Z knock on wood!

Occaisonally.
Gotta hoon when you gotta hoon.

I'm a nice driver; I only get aggressive when there is some ******* driving around and cutting people off, then I hit A-Mode and give them a taste of their on medicine.

every time I'm nice and let a car in they're the worst driver ever. i drive like 2mph in parking lots, but on the street i like to be first

I don't really think it helps with congestion. They already get free passes in the HOV lane. Lane splitting does nothing but startle drivers and cause potentially more accidents, or damage to cars.

I almost ran one over, because I was startled by this loud bike flying between cars.

Usually I'll hug the line on the drivers side to prevent any of that when I'm in Cali.

It's the most retarded "legal" thing there.

I do not know statistics. In the summer time I hear the fire engine 2-3 times each Saturday and Sunday, usually from bikes. Anybody riding a bike, on a tight mountain road (with cars) for longevity, may need to rethink their exercise area.

I was once a volunteer fire fighter here, and I speak from experience, it is usually a bike falling down hard or tangling with a car.

I will say, I give extra leeway to motorcyclists. I respect their choice to get out of the cage. And yes, some people think motorcyclists are asshats with how they ride (and some are!), but quite often they ride like they do for their own protection. I.e. lane splitting in Cali, faster accel off lights when they're in front, etc. Too many idiot car drivers out there. I'd rather not be one of them, and I give motorcycles plenty of space and courtesy. It's somewhat empathetic, as I'd appreciate the same being given to me when I ride.

Pedestrians and bicyclists I also don't mess with.

For the latter two, I don't want to make a mistake or mistake in judgement or even give the chance of a vehicular manslaughter/assault being slapped on my record. As the driver of the larger, more dangerous vehicle, I do have extra responsibility to not wield it as a weapon, either as a feigned or actual threat. If pedestrians or bicyclists are doing something bad, I'll honk at them, maybe yell out my window what the problem is, and move on.

Lord knows, bicyclists are at least more active and healthier than I. Who am I to criticize? :)

Oh, and I flash and allow 18-wheelers into lanes on the freeway when they want to, because, well, they're friggin' bigger than me and can kill me if they make a mistake. And it's satisfying to get a thank you flash of the running lights. :)

youareaverypassivetype...

I don't think I've ever let an 18-wheeler make the lane change on the highway without first zipping by. From my experience they always overtake each other at what feels like a 1 mph speed differential.

I do however always let someone merge if they have their blinkers on. There aren't too many 370Z's around Knoxville and I'm the only blue one, so I try to be as polite as I can when I'm driving around. Of course, there's always gonna be some pedestrian who tries to wave me down for speeding from the other side of the road even though I'm usually within 5 mph of the limit.

LOL! That and I drive in the midwest. There are aggressive drivers here, but it's nothing like a real urban tangle.

But yes, I am pretty passive, but only because I see little reason to be a **** on the road. I have a sporty car that is rare, usually have my windows open, a vanity plate, etc. I'd hate to piss off the wrong person who has less to lose than I who ends up seeing my car elsewhere and getting revenge. I don't want to be one of those keyed car threads on here. :)

I pretty much just give the **** treatment to those who do it first.

The usage or lack thereof is a huge pet peeve of mine. You want to merge without signaling? Damn straight I'm going to make it as close a shave as possible, if not even just ignore you. Have your light on and look like you want in but are hesitant or not trying to get as far up as you can before bullying into the lane? I'll let you in/through.

I also try not to judge people on their cars as much as I can. Not everyone has the luxury to have a decent car that is in great shape. I don't want to enburden their life or rub their nose in my car more than I passively do. :(

aka...morematuretype... :tup:

I can't stand bicyclists! Always breaking the law and riding side by side, or running lights, and just being reckless with their lives and my car's well being.

I'm not a cyclist and I don't know about PA (I'm going to venture it's the same), but in Hawaii the cyclist has the right to ride in the middle of the lane in the right lane and if making a left turn can ride in the middle of the left lane to make the left turn.

Most people including cyclist, don't realize that this is the law here. Thus I see a lot of cyclist almost get killed for riding far on the right and the car squeezing past them in the same lane pushing them even further to the curb. If the cyclist falls and gets hurt because of this, the driver of the automobile is at fault and can be convicted for manslaughter or worse yet murder 2 if the driver was witnessed harassing the cyclist.

Be patient, use your blinker and wait for a good opportunity to pass. Think of it like following a slow truck, everyone is entitled to the road, not just cars. :tiphat:

does hawaii not like the usa any more? dont want to be part of america?

only bicyclists i have respect for are the Soldier Ride group. would gladly make room for them anytime

Soldier Ride - Wounded Warrior Project

:icon17: Guess that's why we're known as the Aloha State. But in Hawaii, majority of motorist don't respect bicycle riders. Exactly why I don't ride a bike.

Cyclists don't have the right to ride 30mph under the speed limit and in the middle of the lane in CA. They must go as far over as possible if they can't keep up with the speed limit. Most of the time they ride in groups and side by side while going slowly. I think they should just get off the road.

If these idiots would just get over to the right when they're not passing, then everything would be fine and dandy.

Sharing the Road (FFDL 37) - Safety Tips for Bicyclists and Motorists

Cyclists can definitely be idiots and inconsiderate when they're on the road, but so can automobile drivers. My post was to hopefully inform 370Z forum members that the pendulum in the criminal & civil courts have swung in favor of the pedestrian/bicyclist and to share the road.

Hope the above link works as you'll see the California and Hawaii laws do not differ much. Bicyclist have a right to the road as much as a car. If the lane is large, the cyclist should ride to the right, if it's small they don't have too. Question is, what's a large lane and what's a small lane (most of the lanes in Hawaii are small, thus they can ride in the center), plus how far right to the curb is right? Just be patient and considerate out there.

I'm fine if people follow the #1 rule...

Left lane fast, right lane slow !!!!

:iagree: You should hear the profanity in my head right now just reading this.