New Z an improvement? What do you think?

Tigger

I agree with everyone above on pretty much every point. But I would like to point out something I've been noticing recently and if it is a trend then I wouldn't expect to see anything in 2016 that'll impress in terms of a new Z or even the likes of one.

For example, the 200HP engine has been the benchmark number for how many years now? 14? 15? Even so, it seems manufacturers are only trying to acheive those same numbers with smaller and smaller engines that are more fuel efficient. The new Honda Accord "Sport" model only has, what, 185? Sport? Give me a break.

What I'm saying is they keep re-generating the same numbers and the only battle now is for fuel economy. They don't really care about hp anymore as long as they get close. BMW drops the 8cyl in the M3 for a turbo-6. And what are the figures? only 6 more ponies than last year. Whoopie-do!

The FRS? I drove one again the other day here in Las Cruces because I was bored. Handling was fine. But it was sooooo damn slooowww! It made it almost unbearable. I think my 138hp rental car has more torque.

What it comes down to really is this... performance figures are all but out the window. The battle is fuel economy in ever larger vehicles and soon every damn engine will have a turbo on it and will be direct injected. Not necessarily a bad thing but it will begin to limit the ability to do much to the motor for performance gains since they are getter ever smaller in displacement and most will be 1.6L or smaller and will soon likely come coupled with batteries as a standard feature.

So if they decide to compete with the FRS in 2016, expect low performance figures and specs. I would expect a performance drop with the Z as well if they so choose to bring it back in 2016 as an overhauled vehicle. It'll be underpowered but that's ok as long as it is 100 pounds lighter.

Bret_T

I agree with what you're saying, but I'll also add another point. Most performance car oriented drivers do not have the skills to match the higher performance cars that are out there anyway. Therefore, other than bragging rights, there's nothing in it for most drivers when they gain additional HP.

7speed

Idk about that.... Word is toyotA is working on supra successor with bmw and maybe another rear wheel drive sports compact below the frs.

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Holy

Considering the Q50 was released, the G37 had to have a price drop seeing as they going are to be continued for a couple more years until the new coupe is released.

This price drop of the G37 put it at an even level price-wise with the 370z. Maybe the 370z dropped in price because the G37 dropped its price initially. Not sure (no one is) if this is the reason why there's such a significant drop in price, but its another possibility.

theboydiddy

This thread explains exactly why I purchased my Z. I thought about most of this when I purchased it, being that I love the look of the 2012 and under. Without that ugly running day light on the front. I decided to get the 2012 instead of the 2013 which the dealer was trying to get me on. A lot people asked me 'so if you know it's gonna be out of production' or 'if there's chances to be out of production soon or smaller engine and slower why would you get it?'
I'm sure this car will be a classic like the 240s are now. I also believe all cars in the near future will be electric. And cars like what we have now will be scarce or non existing. Gentlemen we all have a piece of history in hand. And that's why I purchased my Z.
I pray it never get out of production honestly, but the way I see things going it looks like it will be... Soon !

(Sorry for being out of the subject a bit)

Mark1010

When I was doing my search for a weekend car I kept comparing everything to the 370 until it became mind shockingly apparent that the 370 was the car. The Genesis had decent numbers but when I looked at one next to the the 370 it was beyond bland. To hear anyone say the styling looks dated compared to anything else in the market is just odd.


I offered 40K for 13 T+S two months ago and was told to gtfo by the dealer. That same car now has a sticker of 35K. They have had the car since January...

I totally agree with one of those two statements, the other is pure craziness.

Bret_T

I bought my new '93 240SX (with 4-wheel steering) in January of 1994. It was on the lot with three others that were identical except for the color. There was absolutely no interest in the car. I got it for $15,000. The sales manager was actually mad about selling it at that price, but I guess he decided to because of the lack of interest. The other two 240SX's sat for a few more months before they sold. I guess I was ahead of my time.

It looks dated in the sense that the car has had the same basic appearance since its introduction in 2003. Although I think it looks decent, Nissan is going to have to change it significantly if they want to get the production numbers back up.

theboydiddy

[QUOTE=Mark1010;2442276] To hear anyone say the styling looks dated compared to anything else in the market is just odd.

- I strongly believe the Z has THE best sport car look under $50,000

Arrvaxx

Outdated styling? What'eva.

The Z has always been an 'affordable' sportscar and Nissan's announcement to lower the price to compete was another reminder. The rebirth of American muscle and new entrants like the BRZ are simply part of a cycle that we've seen decade after decade.

It is times like these many cars look back to their roots for inspiration and I think Nissan would be wise to do so here. They can start with size and weight. The new buzzwords in reviews are 'fun to drive' (sadly) and both would help that.

If they could reduce size and weight -and- put in a turbo -AND- keep the price down...well my friends, that's the secret sauce.

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7speed

Plus more options out there......decent camaros, challengers, mustang, genesis, frs/brz.

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Bking

I also have a feeling that there won't be a new Z in the near future. Sales are bad and for the price there are quite a few options.

I believe consumers (including myself) want something that can do it all; sporty, 4-5 seats, comfort, luxury, and fuel economy. More car manufacturers are producing these 4 door luxury coupes/sedans, just like how luxury SUV's (X5, ML, Cayenne, RX, etc.) were never heard of but got popular starting the late 90's early 2000's.

andrzej641104

Interesting article:

2016 Nissan Z: 25 Cars Worth Waiting For 2014–2017 – Future Cars – Car and Driver

UNKNOWN_370

car and driver? Lol.... Lets call Carnac, the great to make a Z35 prediction too.

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NS370Z

Inline 6, turbo. 375 HP. 150 lbs lighter.

/Angelo350Z/

I'm not going to hold my breath for an inline 6 turbo, but 375 hp close to 3K lbs would be nice.

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