370Z Sport Package vs Mazdaspeed 3 GT vs S2000 vs Cayman S vs Mazda Rx-8

Pushing_Tin · 11-19-2009, 06:34 PM

And for the RX8 if it had an engine that didn't get piss poor mileage and burn oil like a furnace I'd own of those too.

wishihadnav · 11-19-2009, 06:45 PM

^yeah the renesis 13b did get poor gas mileage...didnt burn too much oil tho as compared to the older ones..all n all its not a bad car for the money...rear seats to..lolz.

Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 07:08 PM

I think a better comparison for the mazdaspeed3 would be with other 4 cyl turbo cars in which it would get blown away. I know the Audi TTS is a 2.0T 4 cyl FWD K04 turbo that does 0 to 60 in 4.9 secs compared to 5.5 for the mazda which has a 2.5 liter 4 cyl turbo. So it doesnt even beat its own type of cars.

wishihadnav · 11-19-2009, 07:11 PM

^i agree..a better comparision would be a 4cly forced induction fwd car..perhaps a neon srt4?

Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 07:13 PM

besides we all know chipping a turbo car will net you tons more power than a NA car so its not a good comparo. Put even a single turbo on the Z and away she goes.

Sand123 · 11-19-2009, 07:34 PM

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I think a better comparison for the mazdaspeed3 would be with other 4 cyl turbo cars in which it would get blown away. I know the Audi TTS is a 2.0T 4 cyl FWD K04 turbo that does 0 to 60 in 4.9 secs compared to 5.5 for the mazda which has a 2.5 liter 4 cyl turbo. So it doesnt even beat its own type of cars.

Good idea there. But you should have checked your facts first.

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Audi TTS is a 2.0T 4 cyl FWD K04 turbo that does 0 to 60 in 4.9 secs

The 2009 TTS does 0-60 in 5.6 seconds. And that's with the help of AWD (not FWD). All of the Audi S line cars are AWD. It also weighs 200 lbs more than the Mazdaspeed3, and has 22 less ft-lbs of torque. The Mazdaspeed3 is 200 lbs lighter, has more power, still clocks 0-60 faster despite being FWD, and blows the TTS away beyond 60 mph. Not to mention the fact that the Audi costs around $48,000 while the Mazda costs $25,000.

This comes from Car and Driver and Autoweek.

Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sand123

Good idea there. But you should have checked your facts first.

The 2009 TTS does 0-60 in 5.6 seconds. And that's with the help of AWD (not FWD). All of the Audi S line cars are AWD. It also weighs 200 lbs more than the Mazdaspeed3, and has 22 less ft-lbs of torque. The Mazdaspeed3 is 200 lbs lighter, has more power, still clocks 0-60 faster despite being FWD, and blows the TTS away beyond 60 mph. Not to mention the fact that the Audi costs around $48,000 while the Mazda costs $25,000.

This comes from Car and Driver and Autoweek.

Your right about the AWD, but wrong about the times and $$$$ wasnt part of my comparo. With that extra $$$ you get a SH!T load of extras with the Audi that mazda doesnt even think about. And I doubt the mazda will be faster beyond 60 with only .5 liters more. Also only $46K for the TTS but still more than I could afford.

wishihadnav · 11-19-2009, 07:25 PM

^^for the price of a GTR i'd buy 4 houses in Michigan..lolz..

theDreamer · 11-19-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wishihadnav

^^for the price of a GTR i'd buy 4 houses in Michigan..lolz..

You can only get 3 for the price of a GT-R.

wishihadnav · 11-19-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

You can only get 3 for the price of a GT-R.

lol..i stand corrected

theDreamer · 11-19-2009, 07:41 PM

Audi of America > 2010 Audi TTS Coupe > TTS Coupe News and Reviews

• 0-60 mpg: 4.9 seconds
• Top speed: 155 mph
• Shift time: .2 seconds

Audi weight - 3241
Mazdaspeed 3 weight - 3221

Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Audi of America > 2010 Audi TTS Coupe > TTS Coupe News and Reviews

• 0-60 mpg: 4.9 seconds
• Top speed: 155 mph
• Shift time: .2 seconds

Audi weight - 3241
Mazdaspeed 3 weight - 3221

just the facts please.

gotta love that DSG, its the bomb, wish the Z 7AT had it or the same as the GT-R.

theDreamer · 11-19-2009, 08:14 PM

The new Audi TTS is a good competitor to the Z though, not sure I am still on board with the styling of it but it is a solid performer. I really hope that euro model (not sure of its name) makes it to the US, it is a 5 cylinder Audi TT or something.

Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 08:18 PM

That would be the TTRS and its a speed demon. I think I would take that over the GT-R but dont think its coming here atleast not for awhile. Its 0 60 is 3.8 secs. But Im waiting for a good SC for the Z to come out and then the Z will fly like crazy.

Sand123 · 11-19-2009, 09:23 PM

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With that extra $$$ you get a SH!T load of extras with the Audi that mazda doesnt even think about. And I doubt the mazda will be faster beyond 60 with only .5 liters more

For twice the price I would certainly hope it came with a bunch of extras!!

I was referring to the 2009 TTS earlier when I said 0-60 in 5.6s. I was comparing the 2009 Audi to the 2009 Mazda. The 2010 Mazdaspeed3 is heavier and slower than the outgoing model, and the new Audi appears to be faster than the outgoing Audi. I looked up the specs on the 2010 TTS , and yes, it hits 60 mph in 4.9 sec with its quattro AWD. But to say it's faster beyond 60 mph is nonsense. It has the same hp than the Mazdaspeed3, a lot less torque, and the extra drivetrain losses of AWD, which makes it slower from anything but a dig.

11-19-2009, 07:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	I think a better comparison for the mazdaspeed3 would be with other 4 cyl turbo cars in which it would get blown away. I know the Audi TTS is a 2.0T 4 cyl FWD K04 turbo that does 0 to 60 in 4.9 secs compared to 5.5 for the mazda which has a 2.5 liter 4 cyl turbo. So it doesnt even beat its own type of cars. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

11-19-2009, 07:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	besides we all know chipping a turbo car will net you tons more power than a NA car so its not a good comparo. Put even a single turbo on the Z and away she goes. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

11-19-2009, 07:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	Audi of America > 2010 Audi TTS Coupe > TTS Coupe News and Reviews • 0-60 mpg: 4.9 seconds • Top speed: 155 mph • Shift time: .2 seconds Audi weight - 3241 Mazdaspeed 3 weight - 3221 __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

11-19-2009, 08:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	The new Audi TTS is a good competitor to the Z though, not sure I am still on board with the styling of it but it is a solid performer. I really hope that euro model (not sure of its name) makes it to the US, it is a 5 cylinder Audi TT or something. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

11-19-2009, 08:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	That would be the TTRS and its a speed demon. I think I would take that over the GT-R but dont think its coming here atleast not for awhile. Its 0 60 is 3.8 secs. But Im waiting for a good SC for the Z to come out and then the Z will fly like crazy. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette Last edited by Zsteve; 11-19-2009 at 08:20 PM.

11-19-2009, 06:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Pushing_Tin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 2,875 Drives: E63 AMG Rep Power: 228	And for the RX8 if it had an engine that didn't get piss poor mileage and burn oil like a furnace I'd own of those too.

11-19-2009, 06:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	^yeah the renesis 13b did get poor gas mileage...didnt burn too much oil tho as compared to the older ones..all n all its not a bad car for the money...rear seats to..lolz.

11-19-2009, 07:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	^i agree..a better comparision would be a 4cly forced induction fwd car..perhaps a neon srt4?

11-19-2009, 07:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	^^for the price of a GTR i'd buy 4 houses in Michigan..lolz..

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