cold roads + loads of torque = :happydance:

seriously guys make a new thread if your going to have a bitch fight.

well its 100degrees and 50+ humidity here in washington state. ill take az's 120 right now

its 101 right now at 11pm at night. UGH! Yes there is no humidity but it is still hot

Lovin AZ, but 3 months out the year the heat gets to be just slightly annoying. Funny story, my friend and I were taking a short road trip and I look over and he's sweating. Im like "dude I got the air cranked", and I feel just fine. I look down and see that he has his heat seater on lol. Must have accidentally hit it, hahaha.

AZ is such a great place to just drive around. Roads are mostly new, wide open with lots of lanes. You don't have to worry about winter weather rendering your sports car useless for months at a time.

Shah: take it easy killer. You can argue about the engine being coarse, but it is a high revving engine that continues to become more refined as years pass.

Not sure how the suspension is lousy compared to other cars. Speaking of brakes how are those single piston M3 calipers that overheat and warp after a few runs on the track?

The Z is supposed to be a focused sports car. Most peope that buy them CAN afford a *35, they choose the Z because they appreciate the more focused nature of the car. The 135 weighs roughly 100 pounds less than a 335, it was so hyped as a much more sporty ver of the 3, but it's basically the same car. Still has no real diff, still weighs a lot compared to true lightweight BMW's of the past, and the looks have been well not well pined on by most.

They are rumor to bring back a lightweight 1 with a 4 cyl turbo, a more sporting pure car than anything they offer now, let's wait and see.

If you guys want to troll, go over to the Infiniti forums. Those cars are made directly to compete against you, the Z is not.

We all know about the mods and such on *35. The mod game is just ridiculous, because it an always be applied to both sides. Your car is more expensive, so the difference in the prices can be used to mod the Z. It's just never ending and a worthless argument on both sides.

Love your 3 series. BMW has never been the all out luxury car you imagine it to be. The S class has outsold it since it's birth, has been used by more world dignitaries, and will always carry a higher level of prestige than the 7. Audi has much more beautiful exterior and interior, the leased 3 series will always be the entry level yuppie car. You honestly think it makes you have status?

Audi's are slooooowwwwww but their exterior styling is great. Mercedes are nice but of equal luxury. I would buy BMW because their handling is better. And if the 3 series is an entrance level yuppie car, what does that make yours? And I dont really care if it gives me "status" I fuggin LOVE the car.
And again with the entry level thing, my car cost 53K. Thats more than a 5 series. Not entry level. I didnt buy it for the badge either.

As for the AZ roads.. here is a sample of the roads here..
I tried to do a whole video of the raods where I live but something is going on with YouTube and Im going to try to upload it from a different computer..
YouTube - Clearwater Hills preview

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Your profile at bimmerfest say you drive a 02 530i:

2002 Aegean Blue Metallic Toledo Blue BMW 530i Sport -- andyffer's Garage

Or is it a 525i?

Looks nice. I moved back to AZ, have yet to update my profile. I like the cruise through DC Ranch, or a run up Tatum, through carefree and back down Scottsdale road. Or a run from Scottsdale to Rio Verde can be very sporting.

Anyways, for me, BMW will always be the perfect of luxury and performance. Some cars will do either one better, but the BMW has always had the perfect match. Infiniti directly markets against BMW. They come close, but IMO the honors still go to BMW.

The Nissan Z is just a focused sports car. They are not meant to compete with each other, but BMW dropped a gem of an engine in, so I understand the urge.

The 3 series is BMW's bread and butter and most of the models sold are to entry level yuppies, 328s leased. At the top end of the spectrum, BMW has never been able to match Mercedes. The 8 series flopped and never gained share against the SL/CL. The S class as I mentioned is still the car of choice for foreign governments. Merc has the status, but they as of yet have never been able to produce a C class comparable to the mighty 3.

Enjoy your BMW's. They are great cars. Does not mean you have to troll on a car that isn't direct competition. That is what the G is for. It's heavier, your cars have a far better engine, so go flame on them

You think his 1+ acre crib in PV is his either? lol

Ibtl

ok and a kitten picture. And hey stop picking on the G37S

http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/unc...ted_kitteh.jpg

Thats not my car so idk how that got there ahahah. I have an 02 530 in addition to an 06 325 and an 09 335d. But thats not my color or my picture so I dont wtf happened there.
325 is getting rid of, 335d is being picked up either today or tomorrow.

btw, even the old 530i is nicer and has more features than your 09 370z
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and yes i live in PV but so do a sh*t load of people so I dont see how its a big deal?

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You posted at bimmerfest yesterday, and your signature still has the 02, with it being listed as your "mein ride". You congratulate peole for ordering a 335i, yet don't mention your's? You don't have time to update that crap in a forum filled with BMW lovers, yet you can come here and spout your absolute love for your $57K 3 series? Has your mom even let you sit in the front yet?

Is that the Mod coming down the hall with a lock in his hand? :roflpuke2: