Ummm you dont consider a car that sells for over 40 grand a nice car? But you drive a 335, and im guessing you think thats "nice" huh. So where you live there must just be Bugattis, Lambos, Saleens, and Maybachs. And "rice things", really? I think you need to :gtfo2:

I dont care if the 370z went for 80K. If it still has all the crap that it does now, I still wouldnt buy it. I have plenty of friends that have driven and drive these and Im sorry but if you think it is anywhere close or better than a luxury car, you are wrong.
I say that because I read on here that you guys think the plastic dash, seats, noisy interior, horrible quality overall, terrible transmission, etc. is better than these luxury cars. And Im not one of those BMW IS SUPERIOR TO ALL people, I just try to inform

Thats where you are not understanding what the Z is...Its a true sports car. Its has a robust engine, RWD, 2 seats, great suspension, and a short options list. Its not trying to be a luxury car, its not trying to have the softest leather or quietest ride...its a gritty car meant to be driven. Its options list is just keeping pace with the trends of upcoming technologies(and maybe it has set a new trend with the syncro rev match system, which will be copied by many manufacturers to come). You need to see the car for what its worth...a sports car, not a luxo sedan.:driving:

Lots of AZ peeps!!

My car comes with 425lbs of torque. Stock from the factory.
Not a sport sedan? Luxury + sport is what the 3 series is about.
Do you not consider the 335i with a robust engine, RWD, 2 seats (or 5), and great suspension, to be a sport car either? $650 and you are pushing 400hp to the wheels and 400lb torque.
My friend has JB3 and a dual cone intake, all for less than a $1K and is faster than Lamborghinis. How does the Z compare?
I would rather have luxury and sport (sedan or coupe). Not sacrifice one or the other

AZ is great! Its so beautiful! Got to love those sunsets eh?

Whats your defination of a true sports car...that its an exotic makes it a true sports car???? Thats makes no sense to me. Considering that those makes are only acquired by .001 percent of the population doesnt make me think its "true" to the average enthusiast.

Lets keep the prices in the same ball park please...


YouTube - Can Nissan Beat BMW? 370Z vs. 135i

Sorry, I compared it to the 3 because you mentioned "luxo sedan" in your previous post.

Alright lets do that. The 135i has the exact same engine as the 335i.
So lets go through this again, and I'll add one more thing..
JB3 + dual cone intake all for under $1K and it will be faster than a Lamborghini. AND they weigh even less.
Still comparable to the 370?

Apparently you didnt watch the video because the 135i cost 5 grand more than the Z. Thats one of the reasons that edmunds selected it as the winner in the comparison. I actually looked at the 135i before I looked at the Z. Its a killer for sure and I know it has rediculous power potential. The Z just had a bit more character for me. I driven a few different turbo charged cars in my life, and the one thing I miss more than the loads of power, is the sound the turbos would make when spooling up. Youtube doesnt seem to have any vids of 3series smokin' lambos...I could be wrong of course.

Apparently you dont know how to read, as I clearly stated why I thought the Z was a true sports car. And then you listed the same reasons that I did why you thought your exotics were true sports cars????? You are making no sense. Wouldnt that make you more ignorant?

i think this thread needs a detox.

so back on topic i used to live in az. might try to move back.

From my definition of a true sports car, you just explained why the 1 is more.
It may have a bit more character in your eyes, but not in mine.
Its the luxury + the sport that won me over. But thats just personal choice

You are not wrong about the video. There is a video on its way..
You can look up 335 vs m6 and watch it beat it up to about 140 where it closes in on its limiter and thats where the m6 keeps on going (it was delimited). And with a few more mods the 335 could have gained more but those are about 2K more in mods. Still worth it in my eyes.
And it wont smoke a lambo but it will beat it.

do eet

Wait until God turns the heat down. Cant wait for winter!