how many z's in arizona

wolf41779

Ummm you dont consider a car that sells for over 40 grand a nice car? But you drive a 335, and im guessing you think thats "nice" huh. So where you live there must just be Bugattis, Lambos, Saleens, and Maybachs. And "rice things", really? I think you need to

andyffer

I dont care if the 370z went for 80K. If it still has all the crap that it does now, I still wouldnt buy it. I have plenty of friends that have driven and drive these and Im sorry but if you think it is anywhere close or better than a luxury car, you are wrong.
I say that because I read on here that you guys think the plastic dash, seats, noisy interior, horrible quality overall, terrible transmission, etc. is better than these luxury cars. And Im not one of those BMW IS SUPERIOR TO ALL people, I just try to inform

wolf41779

Thats where you are not understanding what the Z is...Its a true sports car. Its has a robust engine, RWD, 2 seats, great suspension, and a short options list. Its not trying to be a luxury car, its not trying to have the softest leather or quietest ride...its a gritty car meant to be driven. Its options list is just keeping pace with the trends of upcoming technologies(and maybe it has set a new trend with the syncro rev match system, which will be copied by many manufacturers to come). You need to see the car for what its worth...a sports car, not a luxo sedan.

andyffer

My car comes with 425lbs of torque. Stock from the factory.
Not a sport sedan? Luxury + sport is what the 3 series is about.
Do you not consider the 335i with a robust engine, RWD, 2 seats (or 5), and great suspension, to be a sport car either? $650 and you are pushing 400hp to the wheels and 400lb torque.
My friend has JB3 and a dual cone intake, all for less than a $1K and is faster than Lamborghinis. How does the Z compare?
I would rather have luxury and sport (sedan or coupe). Not sacrifice one or the other

wolf41779

Whats your defination of a true sports car...that its an exotic makes it a true sports car???? Thats makes no sense to me. Considering that those makes are only acquired by .001 percent of the population doesnt make me think its "true" to the average enthusiast.

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Lots of AZ peeps!!

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andyffer

AZ is great! Its so beautiful! Got to love those sunsets eh?

Spec Jay

i think this thread needs a detox.

so back on topic i used to live in az. might try to move back.

andyffer

do eet

wolf41779

Wait until God turns the heat down. Cant wait for winter!

andyffer

cold roads + loads of torque =

Spec Jay

seriously guys make a new thread if your going to have a bitch fight.

well its 100degrees and 50+ humidity here in washington state. ill take az's 120 right now

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andyffer

its 101 right now at 11pm at night. UGH! Yes there is no humidity but it is still hot

Sardis

AZ is such a great place to just drive around. Roads are mostly new, wide open with lots of lanes. You don't have to worry about winter weather rendering your sports car useless for months at a time.

Shah: take it easy killer. You can argue about the engine being coarse, but it is a high revving engine that continues to become more refined as years pass.

Not sure how the suspension is lousy compared to other cars. Speaking of brakes how are those single piston M3 calipers that overheat and warp after a few runs on the track?

The Z is supposed to be a focused sports car. Most peope that buy them CAN afford a *35, they choose the Z because they appreciate the more focused nature of the car. The 135 weighs roughly 100 pounds less than a 335, it was so hyped as a much more sporty ver of the 3, but it's basically the same car. Still has no real diff, still weighs a lot compared to true lightweight BMW's of the past, and the looks have been well not well pined on by most.

They are rumor to bring back a lightweight 1 with a 4 cyl turbo, a more sporting pure car than anything they offer now, let's wait and see.

If you guys want to troll, go over to the Infiniti forums. Those cars are made directly to compete against you, the Z is not.

We all know about the mods and such on *35. The mod game is just ridiculous, because it an always be applied to both sides. Your car is more expensive, so the difference in the prices can be used to mod the Z. It's just never ending and a worthless argument on both sides.

Love your 3 series. BMW has never been the all out luxury car you imagine it to be. The S class has outsold it since it's birth, has been used by more world dignitaries, and will always carry a higher level of prestige than the 7. Audi has much more beautiful exterior and interior, the leased 3 series will always be the entry level yuppie car. You honestly think it makes you have status?

andyffer

Audi's are slooooowwwwww but their exterior styling is great. Mercedes are nice but of equal luxury. I would buy BMW because their handling is better. And if the 3 series is an entrance level yuppie car, what does that make yours? And I dont really care if it gives me "status" I fuggin LOVE the car.
And again with the entry level thing, my car cost 53K. Thats more than a 5 series. Not entry level. I didnt buy it for the badge either.

As for the AZ roads.. here is a sample of the roads here..
I tried to do a whole video of the raods where I live but something is going on with YouTube and Im going to try to upload it from a different computer..
YouTube - Clearwater Hills preview