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Jimc 06-06-2013 09:29 PM

Gota ask a stupid question
 
Why do I see so many people say the first thing they do is turn the VDC off. Don't beat me up, as the saying goes "there is no such thing as a stupid question."

Thanks

Jim

GSS138 06-06-2013 09:36 PM

VDC is the traction control. If you are going to drive aggressively, basically it can kill your upshifts by cutting the power. Until you have an idea of how to push your car and what its limits are, just leave it on. If you know your car and tires and feel comfortable accelerating in a high HP rear wheel drive car and you understand the implications of that, then it can optionally be turned off to allow you to enjoy a little bit more zip.

rAiN 06-06-2013 09:48 PM

Also don't forget that most of people here are drifter, and they love their car out of control sliding everywhere

Tigger 06-06-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rAiN (Post 2351780)
Also don't forget that most of people here are drifter, and they love their car out of control sliding everywhere

But I thought it was IN CONTROL sliding... :driving:

And yeah, don't touch VDC unless you have some clearance and room to spare and no one to hit.

dP3NGU1N 06-06-2013 10:21 PM

I like drifting but I like not killing people more. I advocate for safety features on during daily driving and full off when you're on the track. Anything else is borderline irresponsible.

bdavis89 06-06-2013 10:37 PM

Just don't accelerate hard with the wheel turned and you'll be fine.

luigi90210 06-06-2013 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimc (Post 2351756)
Why do I see so many people say the first thing they do is turn the VDC off. Don't beat me up, as the saying goes "there is no such thing as a stupid question."

Thanks

Jim

dont turn VDC off, its there to protect you and if you are at the track racing, if you are driving right, it won't interfere whatsoever

and its as Mr Garrison has always said "there are no stupid questions, just stupid people"(LOL JK your question is pretty legit)

Jordo! 06-07-2013 02:29 AM

I "liked" one of the above threads.

the shortest version is: It can kill power.

Leave it on when the road is wet/icy.

Jimc 06-07-2013 06:22 AM

Thanks for the clarification
 
the replys all make sense, I had always left it on and certainly will today in New Jersey with all this damn rain. Didn't realize that you could get a little more pop so will probably try this when it gets dry.

Liking this forum, don't know why I just found it...this is my 3rd Z, first was the last model year of the 300, second the last of the 350...makes me wonder what's in store for the 370 :icon17::icon17:

Again, input much appreciated...Jim

DEpointfive0 06-07-2013 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimc (Post 2351973)
the replys all make sense, I had always left it on and certainly will today in New Jersey with all this damn rain. Didn't realize that you could get a little more pop so will probably try this when it gets dry.

Liking this forum, don't know why I just found it...this is my 3rd Z, first was the last model year of the 300, second the last of the 350...makes me wonder what's in store for the 370 :icon17::icon17:

Again, input much appreciated...Jim

:tiphat: welcome Jim!
Glad you got your answer! Honestly, unless you are track God, drift king, or really just a damn good driver to the point you could hold one of the previous mentioned titles, leave VDC ON, it might cut power during gear shifts, but there is a bigger probability it will prevent you from crashing

If you have a LOT of open space, try driving with it off. Just for shitz n giggles. I only turn it off when I have to make a really tight U-turn

SAmilitaryman 06-07-2013 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2351977)
:tiphat: welcome Jim!
Glad you got your answer! Honestly, unless you are track God, drift king, or really just a damn good driver to the point you could hold one of the previous mentioned titles, leave VDC ON, it might cut power during gear shifts, but there is a bigger probability it will prevent you from crashing

If you have a LOT of open space, try driving with it off. Just for shitz n giggles. I only turn it off when I have to make a really tight U-turn

VDC is for wussies....

...I live my life a quarter mile at a time.

:driving:

RiCharlie 06-07-2013 07:11 AM

I read where VDC only cuts in when it's needed to prevent the car from sliding out of control.

I also read where VDC controls the car by adjusting the power and breaking to each individual wheel..it that is the case then it's it doing something that cant be done by the driver no matter how good the driver is..

And being computer controlled its faster and more accurate than humans can ever be..

So if this is true it would seem foolish to ever turn it off..

fonzo179 06-07-2013 07:13 AM

I just enjoy pushing buttons :icon17:

DEpointfive0 06-07-2013 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SAmilitaryman (Post 2352016)
VDC is for wussies....

...I live my life a quarter mile at a time.

:driving:

Lol, if you're driving in a straight line, whatever, VDC OFF is A-Ok, you ain't going nowhere anyways

SAmilitaryman 06-07-2013 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2352027)
Lol, if you're driving in a straight line, whatever, VDC OFF is A-Ok, you ain't going nowhere anyways

We need an emote for sarcasm....

VDC has never and probably will never be off for me.

DEpointfive0 06-07-2013 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAmilitaryman (Post 2352036)
We need an emote for sarcasm....

VDC has never and probably will never be off for me.

Lol!!! I knew it was sarcastic, that's why I gave a mildly prickish response :tiphat:

SAmilitaryman 06-07-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2352040)
Lol!!! I knew it was sarcastic, that's why I gave a mildly prickish response :tiphat:

HAHA.

Where's my ******* emote. :bowrofl:

DEpointfive0 06-07-2013 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SAmilitaryman (Post 2352047)
HAHA.

Where's my ******* emote. :bowrofl:

Here you go:
Mildly NSFW
( Click to show/hide )

ElVee 06-07-2013 08:31 AM

Just to pile on some more, I do like VDC off. It lets me take low-speed turns as I want and does give a bit more power to the fun meter when going straight. The Z is my first RWD car.

But ...

if it's wet at all, I leave VDC on.
if I'm driving over 50mph, I turn VDC back on.
if I'm driving at super slow speeds in heavy traffic, I'll just flip it on.
if I feel like I may need to speed up suddenly in traffic for whatever reason and not in a straight line, I'll leave VDC on.

Basically, I turn VDC off for times I want and am aware that I have more control, or I turn it back on when I'm just driving and not looking to be more spirited at the moment.

UNKNOWN_370 06-07-2013 08:39 AM

Heeeeerrrrree We go again!!!!


Another VDC thread. :ugh2:
VDC=
Viciously
Dumb
Conversation.

VDC paranoid vs VDC OFF purists,AGAIN. WooHoo!!! :ughdance:




IBTL

JARblue 06-07-2013 08:41 AM

:icon18:

VDC OFF is for sissies. Real men pull the ABS fuse for complete removal of TCS nannies.

UNKNOWN_370 06-07-2013 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2352177)
:icon18:

VDC OFF is for sissies. Real men pull the ABS fuse for complete removal of TCS nannies.

Now you're talkin' like a real man Blue... Fvck that!! Pull off the Akebono's and just roll with a parachute!!! :driving:




:icon17:

SmokeEater27 06-07-2013 09:15 AM

I drive with VDC on for the most part. Mainly because I truly dont remember to turn it off as I dont have much of a reason to when driving M-F. Now weekends I like to get a little risky :rofl2:. However I do wish our VDC button would disable both the VDC as well as the ABS instead of having to pull the fuse. (even though it only takes a minute to do so, the convenience would be nice lol) I mean my 04' 325ci was able to do so though but you did have to hold the TCS button for like 10 seconds, then it would light up on the dash that both were off. it would slide like no tomorrow and with ease. TBH the power on the Z scares me a bit, after a few spin outs and fish tailing playing on the back roads I realized the power difference. so i havent been as daring with it yet as i would like..Real men get scared still right??:bowrofl:

blackcherry20 06-07-2013 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2352177)
:icon18:

VDC OFF is for sissies. Real men pull the ABS fuse for complete removal of TCS nannies.

I'm glad i am female then-:tup:

I am def a sissie ;)

03g35coupe6mt 06-07-2013 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2352177)
:icon18:

VDC OFF is for sissies. Real men pull the ABS fuse for complete removal of TCS nannies.

i have my yaw sensor unplugged and still feel it . ill try the abs fuse next :tup:

kenchan 06-07-2013 09:45 AM

you mean the yawn sensor. :icon17: i hate vdc. turn mine off.

XiP 06-07-2013 09:54 AM

I didn't even know my car had vdc or what it does or where to turn it on and off :icon17:

03g35coupe6mt 06-07-2013 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2352287)
you mean the yawn sensor. :icon17: i hate vdc. turn mine off.

with the yawn sensor unplugged i dont have to push the vdc off button but like i said i can still feel it doing something
:ugh2:

kenchan 06-07-2013 10:02 AM

yah, while throttle off the car does do things on its own to correct yaw.

your G probably does that more than your Z.

Brutal 370Z 06-07-2013 10:06 AM

The only time I turn it off is when I need to launch hard from a standstill. That's when it's the most restrictive I find.

kenchan 06-07-2013 10:07 AM

that and when taking a turn on bumpy roads

UNKNOWN_370 06-07-2013 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2352346)
that and when taking a turn on bumpy roads

VDC shytted on me a few times in this scenario. If it's a warm-dry day, i keep it off.

kenchan 06-07-2013 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2352370)
VDC shytted on me a few times in this scenario. If it's a warm-dry day, i keep it off.

yep, it sucksarse when the car does this to me too. but i have to say my Z's VDC is much better adapted to the car vs my G's VDC for sure.

another reason why ive not messed with the suspension on my Z other than the front swaybar. :)

Brutal 370Z 06-07-2013 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2352376)
yep, it sucksarse when the car does this to me too. but i have to say my Z's VDC is much better adapted to the car vs my G's VDC for sure.

another reason why ive not messed with the suspension on my Z other than the front swaybar. :)

:iagree:


This has definitely kept me hesitant about suspension mods. Can anyone speak to the effect of suspension mods on VDC sensitivity? Does a simple lowering spring/camber kit mod really effect this that much?

UNKNOWN_370 06-07-2013 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutal 370Z (Post 2352395)
:iagree:


This has definitely kept me hesitant about suspension mods. Can anyone speak to the effect of suspension mods on VDC sensitivity? Does a simple lowering spring/camber kit mod really effect this that much?

I have eibach's which have a 3 postion rear setting so if you set it to mild for bumpy streets and medium for smooth streets or light track days, you're good. the third setting is very stiff and useless on the street. I think this is more the case with Hotchkis and whitelines, that have a huge effect on the cars transistions during street driving vs Eibach and stillen. Stillen being the least aggressive.

JungleZ 06-07-2013 12:26 PM

I have swift springs Michellin super sports which made the car handle pretty dam good! But i still have scary times on agressive turns do you guys think i need sway bars or is the lack of an LSD and proper brakes owning my turning experience?

JARblue 06-07-2013 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2352617)
I have swift springs Michellin super sports which made the car handle pretty dam good! But i still have scary times on agressive turns do you guys think i need sway bars or is the lack of an LSD and proper brakes owning my turning experience?

Sways will help stability during the turns, but a real LSD will do wonders. The stock VLSD is garbage for anything except DD. Brakes shouldn't be that much of a factor unless you are limit braking (keep it on the track plz), which I don't expect you are doing on the street.

kittens 06-07-2013 01:37 PM

VDC has definitely saved me in the wet stuff once or twice

I got a long drive to nj tonight so I'm going to have to breathe on the gas to get it moving lol

kenchan 06-07-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutal 370Z (Post 2352395)
:iagree:


This has definitely kept me hesitant about suspension mods. Can anyone speak to the effect of suspension mods on VDC sensitivity? Does a simple lowering spring/camber kit mod really effect this that much?

it can. VDC works in harmony with the suspension system including tires.

modding is all about compromises.

VCuomo 06-07-2013 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAmilitaryman (Post 2352016)
VDC is for wussies....

...I live my life a quarter mile at a time.

:driving:

Not quite - VDC is for people who don't know how to handle/drive a car with power.

Honestly, some of the replies in this thread (and the others that have discussed this same topic) are comical. "don't touch VDC unless you have some clearance and room to spare and no one to hit", "unless you are track God, drift king, ... leave VDC ON" - I mean really, some of the comments are just plain laughable.

If you don't know how to handle a performance car, then yes, leave VDC on. If you do know how to handle a performance car, then it doesn't matter.

Sheesh...


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