Considering a 370z!
 

Hey guys...i have been trying to decide on a new car and i figured why not ask the people that have been there right?...I have been dead set on an evo x for over a year now mostly because i own an eclipse, love the brand, reliability is awsome, love turbo chargers :), and love the styling...but latelythose damn z's ;) keep catching my eye...what im asking here is did anybody consider the evo before buying their z and what is a deal breaker in the z's favor.Thanks in advance for the input...(i skimmed through the forum a couple times and im digging the community too)

nope, never like mitsu's reliability problem and fixing the problems without letting the owner know it's there.
think about it, 332 hp non-turbo vs 291 hp turbo, less mpg, higher cost, need i go on?

very very shallow....any real help?

seriously, have u ever read about the recall cover up mitsu had
at least i never said it looked ugly

i know more about mitsubishi than you could dream..that was mitsubishi fuso btw a totally different division and it was in japan not US domestic market

I considered an Evo X but IMO it lacks in the looks department while the Z is just gorgeous!

To me it came down to looks. The Z is the sex...while the evo is a bread box :) Exterior and interrior.

I cross shopped both cars.

Then why did you ask?

I asked about the 370 and what made people get their car..thats why im on this forum

so it came down to looks then pretty mutch...nobody builds their cars or sets hp goals or 1/4 mile times??????

i know a great deal about cars in general and i do know a fair share about mitsubishi..

the reliability fight goes towards Nissan simply because they build better cars, now in the end no matter how much we say nissan is better or mitsu is better, its all personal preference.

u have 1 car with more horsepower and 2 seats. and another car with less horsepower and 4 seats, in the end thats the main picture.

Evo X is a $20000 drivetrain in a $15000 car....not to mention the extra doors.

If you check out the archives, you'll see a number of posts on why people chose the Z over other cars they considered.

I myself loved the Evo IX for its telepathic steering and great performance on the track. The Audi tech who does our club scrutineering drives one. He does instructor training at our track events. I got several hot laps in his car and I was in love! When I drove the Evo X I found it a lot less intense, but better finished and a lot more useable as an everyday driver. But I love the intensity. The Z gave me back the intensity in a car I love to look at every day. For me, the Evo X would be a lot more practical. But for once I bought what I really wanted, rather than making the practical choice.

YMMV

HJM

thank you mergnthwirker for the helpful reply

but who all here that has spoken about reliability is a mechanic?

right here.. i did 5 years as a mechanic, more for a private garage that does work on all cars.. and i seen almost every car u can imagine haha.

i did powertrain, engine, and lots n lots of electrical

No exactly dude..

Now that reply really isnt fair is it? :shakes head: You asked for peoples input on the subject. On... I might add.. A forum which you know will be slightly biased toward the Z (Being this is a Nissan forum).

Don't take opinions here the wrong way... most of us are a great bunch of people. And love cars in general. Who are willing to help any newcomers..But come on guy, if you don't want hear opinions (good or bad) that you may not like...don't ask for any.

Anywho with that being said... Welcome to the site. ;)

Tell that to my friend whose transmission fell off.

Have u even seen my sig as to know my profession?
btw u asked our opinions and i gave u mine :icon23:

I've enjoyed my time owning a few Mitsubishis. They are not bad cars, but definitely aren't the best either. I'm sure I'll have no regrets when I get my Z.

I am on the verge of either picking up a Z or ordering one, and the deciding factor for me was More NA power, and better looks. You also have yo remember that the EVO is a 4 seater. Will you need the extra seats for anything?

As a former owner of three Mitsubishi cars and three Nissan cars, there is no question who is more reliable at the moment to me. It's Nissan and they aren't even in the same league (again to me). This is not something I cared about though.

The reason I didn't give evo much chance is because of looks. I looked at the two cars and prefered z, and after I looked at the numbers it was a no brainer for me.

Well, I looked at a lot of great cars, that are only 2 door coupes, because I am not interested in 4 door sport cars. I test drove a few, like the Infiniti G37S and BMW 135i. But, I chose the Nissan 370Z because it has a lot more personality to it and it's also very rare. There are a ton of G37S's in Toronto.

I had my heart set on buying a Evo X for the longest time. Although it's probably one of the uglyest car's around, it still had that cool factor. But when the 370z came out with a better price and more horsepower and the gorgeous looks... I was sold. Plus if your a speed guy... Top Gear just tested the 370z and it beat out the Evo X around the track. So in my opinion (obviously) the 370z is the way to go.

*Edit:

As information, my car before the 370z was a 02' Eclipse GT. So I have first hand experience's with mitsubishi's and I am so glad I made the jump to Nissan

i like the performance cost aspect of the evo but i view it as a younger persons car,basic with a great motor,the z for me has great looks and a n/a v6 motor,much better interior especally the touring,my 2 cents:ughdance:

I didn't have a EVO but I just sold my 09 Ralliart for the Z. The quality of the interior is leaps and bounds above the Lancer/Ralliart/EVO, even if you get the basic interior z. The ride is better also. My ralliart took corners like a dream but it sure did make some small bumps feel like large ones.

For me the Z is a good trade off from maneuverability to HP. The z is tons faster then my rallliart and its supposed to be a bit faster then the X. If it were me and I didn't need the back seats the Z would be a no brainier. Ultimately I would go with the one you find more appealing and not worry about what anyone in this forum has to say about the EVO or the Z.

Having said that, GET THE Z!

thanks everyone for the input..im guessing the z community isnt much for mods or upgrades?my thing about the your NA hp rating is that a tune on a 4Cyl. evo will be above 330 z hp(75 hp at crank or 50 at wheels)and basic bolt-on get you close to 400hp...anyone running forced induction on their 370? i didn notice that the turbo kits cost almost 10grand whoa!! thats alot...any vortec prochargers out there?

haha i drove a RA...those are pathetic

and where is everyone getting their false assumptions that nissan is more reliable than mitsubishi?....i too have been a mechanic for over 5 years now and they are the SAME if anything, and the only reason i have seen either for any great amount of work is when people let the timing belt break after 150k miles, if anything nissan has more electrical related problems.

sorry dude, but ur mitsu still looses, twin turbo the 370z will put it well over the 500 range and depending on the setup maybe 700? was someone also saying 1000 is possible :confused:

we each have our opinions and since u're biased towards mitsu, well maybe u should stick with it, not saying u shouldn't buy a z, but u don't seem welling to take in other people's opinions

yea 500 hp for ten grand!!..5 g's on and evo with hta gt 35r fp turbo kit and your close to 600 with the right setup(link at the bottom)..iv seen almost 800 on race gas in the ix's..this is one of the main thigs thats keeping me from getting a z...right now im trying to justify buying either car and i wish the z was winning but its not...i like the 2 door sports car (i have a 1g eclipse with bolt on's in the 12's right now) and the driving position. i have always said nissan builds the best 6 cyl. engines and mitsu the best 4 cyl...they both make great hp..i am driving up to grand rapids to test drive a 370 today so ill have to see :)
ETS Mitsubishi Evolution X T3 Turbo Kit

haha you sound like a 350z hr owner from the other site :nutswinger:

either way, u offer up no proof to support your claim and i'm not about to sreach your evo forum for it. but like i said since you are really biased towards mitsu, just stick with it

Honestly if cheap mod-ability is what sells you on a car, you are in the wrong forum.

Here in 370z-land, you have to pay-to-play

Cut him some slack, everything he is saying about the EVO's performance is true. I don't necessarily agree on the reliability aspect but that is his opinion. Stock for stock the 370z wins hands down in every aspect but when you start talking about modified the EVO wins hands down. You can spend far less on the EVO and get much more compared to the 370z. I love my 370z but in the power department the EVO has the edge when you start talking mods.

The main reason I didn't go with a 09 WRX or EVO X was because of styling. I wanted a more grown up looking car and something that felt sporty. I previously had a 06 WRX and was considering the new STI, 09 WRX, and EVO X but they just couldn't compare to the feel of a true 2 seater sports car. All these sedans are fast and corner great but they don't give that feeling that you get when you sit in a two seater sports car. Having driven 2 seaters all my life (aside from my WRX) just couldn't go to another sedan. Also, as a medical provider I wanted something that fit my career. I shopped for 6 months and just couldn't picture a new EVO or STI parked under a sign that says "doctors parking only." Besides, I've realized at 27 that there will always be someone faster so whats the point. Not that I'm not going to modify my car or race it, but I'm not going to sacrafice feel and look just so I can get a STI or EVO that responds to mods better. For me the 370z was a better fit. I can honestly say that every time I drive it I have a smile. Then again I can say the same thing about my 280z and 300zx. I say drive the 370z but it sounds to me like you are hooked on EVO's, and there is nothing wrong with that. Good luck:tup:

1st things 1st. I'm not an MD just married to one. But dude..Ive seen all types of cars driven by many different medical types. Everything from porches to civc si's and yes even evo's. LOL You sound like those older folks who drive bimmers and mercs... like my wife ( shhh ;) )

Serioulsy tho nothing personal.. I just think everyone should get what they want.. And not worry about what others may think. In the real world most people don't give a darn about what others have.

I'd get an evo if it had 2 doors. Just not a 4dr fan.

I currently drive a Honda Del Sol (that I cant wait to get rid of for a 370) and the 370 is currently my dream car. I do have a buddy that owns a evo x that he is in love with. For me personally, I dont want a 4 door car and I would not consider an evo. As far as cross-shopping the 2, do you think that 2 seats is going to be a problem or do you want the more practical 4 door? Also, it seems like you put quite a bit of stock into power and hp, which like you mentioned the evo is more built for upgrades, and since it already has a turbo setup is fairly easy to mod. All the talk about the Z having more power, if you look at 1/4 mile times they are about the same. The x is an all-wheel drive car, and you can never go by straight hp #'s. It all comes down to your personal preference, but if it was me, I would be all for the Z.

Thats my two cents...

Chris

Hey, I know what you mean. I know one doc that drives an old 80's ford capri with no a/c, heat, defrost, or anything else that really works. He got it from the communtiy college when they upgraded to newer cars. The car is all beat up and even has the shadow of where the college logo used to be on the door. It was just personally I felt that driving a EVO or STI was too kid racer while the Z was more grown up. Like I said, I'm only 27 and recently had a WRX. I was just looking to move up in class of car. Hell, if it weren't for my student loans I would have got a GTR or Audi R8 but all in good time.

Honestly it sounds like your mind is already made up and is leaning towards an EVO, go with that.

well once again i appreciate everyone's input...i just got back from driving the z and i got to say it was nice..the interior had the soft touch type material everywhere and the interment cluster had the nice aluminum bezel, the sub woofer on the spare was neat too lol but i felt a little disappointed on the power side of things...it must be because i come from tubocharged cars and where it should really be kickin it was kinda ehh...now its all down to extensive thought :)

Told ya, quality of the Z shatters the Lancer/Ralliart/Evo, its just nice. Also the speed thing is in your head, check out this vid. Fast forward to 9:34 for results and press pause. You will see that the Evo 10 is about a second behind. If this car does that now being N/A, just imagine if in a year or 2 when turbo kits and superchargers go down in price you add on to your ride how fast this car will be then. It will not only beat the evo, it will kill it.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...r-uk-stig.html

I looked briefly at the EVO X, but after seeing its interior and comparing it to the Z, its just a night and day difference on fit and finish. I wanted a vehicle that was a bit more mature, and refined.