you have to realize they used an mr model which would attomatically add .05 sec on from the launch and that puts the gsr very close to the z..and for the amount of money a tt kit for the z would be the evo would be much faster and have more hp..especially around a track because while the z will have a traction issue and less hp for the money the x will still have grip loads of traction and more hp...not trying to be biased just stating facts...and still in the thought process

ok, here's the times
[QUOTE] <table><tbody><tr class="first-row"><td>Nissan 370Z</td><td>1.27.5</td></tr> <tr><td>BMW M3 CSL</td><td>1.28.0</td></tr> <tr class="first-row"><td>Roush Mustang</td><td>1.28.0</td></tr> <tr><td>Renault Megane R26R</td><td>1.28.1</td></tr> <tr class="first-row"><td>BMW Z4</td><td>1.28.2</td></tr> <tr><td>Marcos TSO GT2</td><td>1.28.2</td></tr> <tr class="first-row"><td>Subaru WRX Sti</td><td>1.28.2</td></tr> <tr><td>Mitsubishi Evo X</td><td>1.28.22</td></tr></tbody></table>[/quote]

so u're saying the gsr which is not as well quipped as the mr will make a faster time than the better equipped mr by 0.05 sec? well then, obviously the 370z is still faster! the evo's lap time, per your "correction value", is 1.28.17, well what do u know, u beat the z4, congrats. but really now, u're still slower by at least .67 seconds

go buy your evo x.

They are vastly different cars. My friend has a 600+ RWHP Evo IX that runs on ethanol. I have never been in a car as fast, but it's been turned into a total drag queen.

I would suggest most people bought the Z, because it has two seats, RWD, and a simple 6 speed gearbox.

Honestly, most people that have driven AWD and RWD cars have a preference.

If you want cheap power, you buy the EVO. If you love AWD, you buy the EVO. If you need the extra room, you buy the EVO.

The Z fills the niche of what most people would consider a sports car. Two seats, RWD, 6 speed gearbox. Until the entry of the Genesis coupe, there was nothing else that compares to the Z, without drastically increasing the price.

The two behave and drive quite differently. I would think a serious test drive in both, would answer the question of the chassis dynamics, lay out etc you would prefer

For more than 25 years I owned an Alfa Romeo Giulietta from 1961. That car lived for high revs, and if you wound it out it performed extremely well (by 1960/70's standards). If I drive my Z the same way it is *amazingly* fast. But most people don't drive their cars this way, and in the Z, it has enough torque that you don't have to in everyday driving. But when you do... holy cow!

It does require a recalibration of how you drive. Seven out of my last 10 cars were turbos, so I had lost the knack. Lower and mid-range torque are beautiful things. Usually there is not a lot of benefit in winding them out much above the torque peak. Not true when driving the Z. It makes its maximum torque and horsepower very high up in the rev range so you need to use the whole power band to extract its best. And the immediacy of naturally aspirated engines is really addictive. It took me a while to get back into that mode after I got my 370Z.

I suspect that you did not drive the Z in a way that extracts the most it has to offer. I highly recommend you spend some time hitting the redline before you give up on the Z!

lol i drove the **** out of that 370..its not an amazing amount of power really..i was surprised how close the power was to my pretty much stock eclipse with the boost turned up to 18 psi...dont get me wrong it is fast but i didnt like the flat spot in the power band around 5-6 grand

The VQ won't handle over 500 safe for long man. For short spurts it can but not for long periods. It won't get close to 600 or higher without a rebuild.

seriously, just go by your evo.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1248925902

so u're saying the gsr which is not as well quipped as the mr will make a faster time than the better equipped mr by 0.05 sec? well then, obviously the 370z is still faster! the evo's lap time, per your "correction value", is 1.28.17, well what do u know, u beat the z4, congrats. but really now, u're still slower by at least .67 seconds

go buy your evo x.[/QUOTE]
first off the mr is no longer a more performance oriented version of the evo (the 2010's are getting a sun roof and leather seats) haha your really excited about .67 sec quicker lap? the car has four doors less power (on a stock tune) and weighs more ,and its that close..no one that buys an evo leaves it stock for anytime at all because they are made as a base for aftermarket parts (thats why they didn't come with direct injection so the injectors can be upgraded with out much expense)..what would have happens if they used a fq-320 360 or 400 model...the 400 is a competitor to your cars big brother, and its a 4 cylinder!. and should i mention that the evo is a RALLY car..would you like to put a 370 against an evo on its home turf... no doubt both are great performing cars and i like to be open to different cars and appreciate their strong points...thats why i am on this forum

Maybe this will help you decide...

So...you are on a date with a REALLY HOT chick. You pull up to pick her up and she says "Nice car. It looks just like my brother's LANCER!".

:bowrofl:

So let me get this straight, u abused the sh*t out of someone's car and only god knows how u abused the clutch and transmission AND you are NOT going to buy it. Now that's shallow and plain disrespectful!
So u are also saying u had to increase the boost on ur eclipse to keep up with a stock z that's not even broken in o_O and that "flat spot" is called N/A which ur boosted eclipse can't even keep up with.

i really don't give a sh*t if the mr is no longer a performance orientated version for 2010, doesn't change a thing since top gear tested an 08 model and mitsu never released the '10 model yet. the 370z still beats ur evo.
i think u should go read the specs on the mr vs gsr, mr has upgraded suspensions. and who was the one crying over time a page or 2 ago :rolleyes:

that's the awd helping the RALLY car. btw, every car has less power on a stock tune :rolleyes:

nobody in their right mind buys any sports car and leaves it stock. U FLAIL

the 400 lost miserably to the GT-R by over 5 sec
>>>>>>>>>>> Top Gear Lap Times <<<<<<<<<<<<<

still LOST on the track with its awd

so that's why u started bashing the 370z from the beginning? :rolleyes:

go buy your evo x and :gtfo2:

mods, please lock this usless thread :hello:

:tup: :inoutroflpuke:

:icon18: haha there are so many things wrong with your "burn" im not even going to reply..but jfyi rally means on the dirt, and my car is 20 years old and will still beat your car

dude take it ez man..we are all enthusiasts here..if you wanna do vague challenging go post on youtube..but yea i considered an evo x..despite having awd and 4 doors...it has poor fuel economy 16/22 and has a 14 gallon tank...itll be a challenge to beat 300miles on a tank..and i kinda need a larger than because I dont want to fill up every 3 days due to my 80+mile per day commutes...another thing that is affecting me is its weight...it's gained some poundage over the 9 and is clearly heavier than the Z...other than that the evo is a performance bargain..I am considering the Z, EvoX, 135i and maybe a Camaro SS..I like the fact that the Z is just winning every comparison against 135i, Z4, RX8, Solstice GXP, Mustang, Genesis..and its an improvement in every possible way over the 350z..the EvoX is has not improved as much over the IX as the 370z with the 350z..they used a cayman as its benchmark...which is a higher level of engineering..you could say the 370z is Japan's corvette..

If you want to haul *** just buy a busa.