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madwi 06-19-2013 12:27 AM

Oh man, I remember the sun readings and thinking is there a freaking ninja out here shooting me haha
It was always early morning or early evening when it happened. The sun hit the "parking Sensors" just right lol

XwChriswX 06-19-2013 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 2369458)
Oh man, I remember the sun readings and thinking is there a freaking ninja out here shooting me haha
It was always early morning or early evening when it happened. The sun hit the "parking Sensors" just right lol

http://lucyoccupy.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/ninja.jpg

madwi 06-19-2013 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2369463)

:icon18: You know in an earlier post I said I was hit with laser and I never saw the guy...I looked EVERYWHERE and never saw him, I can spot the "gumball" machine on our state troopers vehicles but this guy was great lol he wasn't on an on ramp, hiding behind a pillar under an overpass, bushes in the median, didn't show up on WAZE haha. If I ever meet that guy I'd buy him a beer lol.

XwChriswX 06-19-2013 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 2369466)
:icon18: You know in an earlier post I said I was hit with laser and I never saw the guy...I looked EVERYWHERE and never saw him, I can spot the "gumball" machine on our state troopers vehicles but this guy was great lol he wasn't on an on ramp, hiding behind a pillar under an overpass, bushes in the median, didn't show up on WAZE haha. If I ever meet that guy I'd buy him a beer lol.

If it was a sunny day, I could give you an idea... Blows my mind too. In the middle of nowhere on the highway, no cop hiding spots available, my rear laser would go off. Freakish...

Then one night I was driving home and this ahole was following me with his highbeams on, and it was raining (tooootally safe right??) and it kept triggering my rear sensor. I was starting to think the sensor had gone bad, but as soon as the douche left, it stopped. :shakes head:

madwi 06-19-2013 12:37 AM

Hmmm for the sake of science I will have to buy another Laser Interceptor system to see what sets it off :rofl2:

XwChriswX 06-19-2013 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 2369474)
Hmmm for the sake of science I will have to buy another Laser Interceptor system to see what sets it off :rofl2:

Just make sure to not listen to ANY reviews that are over 3 stars as those people don't have any clue what they're talking about.

madwi 06-19-2013 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2369476)
Just make sure to not listen to ANY reviews that are over 3 stars as those people don't have any clue what they're talking about.

I LOVED my LI and will get another system from them. They have been on the forefront of getting algorithms out there to beat the current guns. *Personal* experience has proved these claims to *me*. I am all out of using *'s now :roflpuke2:

XwChriswX 06-19-2013 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 2369491)
I LOVED my LI and will get another system from them. They have been on the forefront of getting algorithms out there to beat the current guns. *Personal* experience has proved these claims to *me*. I am all out of using *'s now :roflpuke2:

Yes, but they sell them, so any information/review they give will be bias and in other words, complete hogswallow. :shakes head:

You should know better!

madwi 06-19-2013 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2369493)
Yes, but they sell them, so any information/review they give will be bias and in other words, complete hogswallow. :shakes head:

You should know better!

:icon17:

starview 06-19-2013 08:47 AM

The "newest" thing in radar detection is band segmenting. On some of the higher end detectors you can actually specify what KA frequencies you want to to scan and drop the rest off the scan list. So if you know what radar the LEOs in your area run you can turn the other bands off and get way less false hits plus much faster reactivity because you detector has to cycle through fewer frequencies.

RDF Geographical Survey - Radar Detector & Laser Jammer Forum

Has a pretty good list.

gsxr750 06-19-2013 10:44 AM

When you buy products today buyers really need to be savvy to problems and scams with a product.

AS SEEN ON TV = you won't buy it if you had it in your hands, prior to laying out the cash.

"Only $9.99 if you buy it right now" = $29.95 in shipping and $5.00 handling fee

" May Have Rare Side Effects In A Small Percentage Of People Taking the Drug" = Take this crap and you will have a 99% chance of dying or screwing up your body for life.

"Excellent Reviews" = Only believe the Bad Ones

Chuck33079 06-19-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2369907)
"Excellent Reviews" = Only believe the Bad Ones

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Just sayin'

gsxr750 06-19-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2370076)

Then there is the famous quote that trumps them all - "There's a sucker born every minute"

AUE: FAQ excerpt: "There's a sucker born every minute"

Wonka2581 06-19-2013 05:10 PM

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Pics as I promised
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Main display
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Control box hit what antenna you want to use front or rear and you can also lock the speed of the vehicle, also in the first pic you can see a patrol speed and a target speed patrol is how fast the cop is going and target is your speed or the other vehicle,

Wonka2581 06-19-2013 05:13 PM

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And this is how I test it at the start and end of every shift,
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Wonka2581 06-19-2013 05:21 PM

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As I am driving clocking a target
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gsxr750 06-19-2013 05:54 PM

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As I am driving clocking a target
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So how far away can you start clocking a target car and what type of radar is it ?

Wonka2581 06-19-2013 07:01 PM

As soon as you can see the car the radar will pick it up, it's a Decatur brand radar

///PureSwank 06-19-2013 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 2370782)
As soon as you can see the car the radar will pick it up, it's a Decatur brand radar

In other words. Your ******.

Come on!!! SPARE ME A TICKET!!!!

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gsxr750 06-20-2013 05:04 PM

Heading up to Cali for a 500 mile road trip this weekend so I'll pick up the escort 9500ix and review it.

It will be interesting to see how it performs.

Highway 06-20-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2372286)
Heading up to Cali for a 500 mile road trip this weekend so I'll pick up the escort 9500ix and review it.

It will be interesting to see how it performs.

Use some of the tactics listed in this thread to ensure you're getting the most out of the detector. It only works with your help.

...and remember that not all LEOs are on duty when out, so they may not have their radars on. This does not count as a failure.

XwChriswX 06-21-2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2369907)
When you buy products today buyers really need to be savvy to problems and scams with a product.

AS SEEN ON TV = you won't buy it if you had it in your hands, prior to laying out the cash.

"Only $9.99 if you buy it right now" = $29.95 in shipping and $5.00 handling fee

" May Have Rare Side Effects In A Small Percentage Of People Taking the Drug" = Take this crap and you will have a 99% chance of dying or screwing up your body for life.

"Excellent Reviews" = Only believe the Bad Ones

What does any of this have to even do with Radar Detectors??

1. I've never seen one advertised on TV.

2. If you're buying a radar detector for $9.99, or even $29.99, then you should expect to get what you pay for... :ugh2:

3. Drugs... really?? :facepalm:

4. You can't weed out the "excellent" reviews because they don't agree with you. That's why you have to read ALL of them objectively and decide for yourself. That is the exact same process you do for anything else, buying a house, buying a car, or a TV, or a computer.

Now you're not even arguing about Radar Detectors at all, you're simply going after stupid buyers.


Scrolling down, you say you're getting a 9500ix for a road test, I hope it changes some of your disbelief's and that you will give it a fair and objective review yourself. Be safe :driving: out there. :tiphat:

gsxr750 06-21-2013 05:31 PM

Probably won't the short range detection of KA , instant on and lasers, I really don't feel it will help, much.

Trip is leisure so it will be a good mix of interstate , highway and local and being done on peak travel times. If the detector proves me wrong I will eat my own words , but I really doubt it.

XwChriswX 06-21-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2374011)
Probably won't the short range detection of KA , instant on and lasers, I really don't feel it will help, much.

Trip is leisure so it will be a good mix of interstate , highway and local and being done on peak travel times. If the detector proves me wrong I will eat my own words , but I really doubt it.

Your already incredibly biased against it, so I don't expect it to irregardless of it's performance. :ugh2:


Yes there are ways out there that make radar detectors kinda nullified, and we accept that. Which is why all I'm saying is YOU as the driver can't just rely on the detector and do 95 in a 45 and think you'll be saved...

I have the detector as a back up in case my eyes don't see the cop first. If he get's me, he get's me. But I'm sure my detector will alert me that he is there either way.

For Short range Ka, you need to be cognizant of what your local or area cops are using, if they are using that, learn where they hide, predict their presence around long corners or blind spots and slow down on entry...

Instant on will still light up my detector because it's sensors are mounted where they actually point the guns, the front/rear tags. Not at the windshield which depending on distance, the beam width may not be wide enough to trigger a detector at the mirror. So that's an inherent problem with the LOCATION of the detector, not a fault IN the detector.

And with Lasers, if it's not illegal in your area, that's why they make Jammers/Shifters. As soon as you get an alert you're being lased and jamming, slow the **** down and cut them off after a cycle or two. Hopefully the cop won't pull you over for the jamming, but that's on you at that point.

Chuck33079 06-21-2013 05:47 PM

Ten bucks says his experience exactly matches his preconceived opinion of radar detector effectiveness.

gsxr750 06-23-2013 03:59 PM

OK ! So here is my review of the PASSPORT 9500 IX , Traveled a total of around 650 miles in and out of southern California.

I kept the speed in a safe manner in order to avoid any tickets as this was only a test of the radars ability.

Overall I had about 15 occurrences with police , ( 10 highway and 5 local).

Every X band and K Band were always false alerts, had to disable X band alerts.

All police encounters that set off the detector were KA band or no reading at all.

Surprisingly for me the I did get 2 long range readings of readings of KA Band set ups, range about 1 mile.

I also picked up 2 KA signals that locked up the radar unit, where it displayed a constant KA signals for 3-5 miles , I pulled to the side while it was still making a lot of noise, unplugged it and restarted it and the signal was gone.


So on the thruway, I had about 8 occurrences of KA band , 2 alerts could have been considered long range 1 1/4 mile and 3/4 miles and 2more about a 1/2 mile.

The rest of the highway KA band were short range indications of only about a 10th mile, basically you seen the cop and the radar unit displayed KA band , no time to slow down.

I also got one constant KA short range signal from a school warning.

2 KA short range signals from moving local PD.

3 none signals from one CHP off thruway and 2 other local PD.

One red light camera alert on intersection above the thruway.

Not one laser alerts at all.

So in conclusion I would say the 9500 IX did give some long distance alerts , but it also gave a lot of short range results , that would have resulted in a lot of tickets, if I was speeding over the limit and targeted.

Then it also got 2 KA alerts that locked it up and it had to be powered down and powered up to clear it self ????

In comparison the cheap Cobra $110 radar/ laser detector , there are a lot of similar short range results, it would have been nice to have the 2 detectors working side by side for a review.

So is there a benefit to the escort VS the cheap $110 Cobra unit , the answer is yes, possibly better in long range detection and it gives you speed and red light camera alerts.

Is it worth $500 for the 9500 IX , probably not.

I feel that it question whether your detector warns you or not or if you get nailed for speeding, really depends on the equipment the police are using and the tactics they use for deploying it.

If the police set up parallel to the road , you may pick up a long range signal, but it seems most of the police set up the KA radar so it only emits a short range signal (perpendicular or at an angle to on coming traffic).

So is a radar laser detector of any real benefit, yes they are , but minor even with 50/50 chance on the KA band alerts. You still face the almost unbeatable detection from Laser and Lidar and Speed Cameras using buried road sensors.

It all boils down to a crap shoot 50/ 50 chance with a $200-$500 ticket and your insurance going thu the roof for about 4 yrs.

For me I will stick with the Garmin GPS with red light camera alerts and just lay back with the CRUISE CONTROL SET AT THE SPEED LIMIT and not worry.

Highway 06-23-2013 04:21 PM

What happened to the pic? Wanted to see how you had it mounted.

gsxr750 06-23-2013 04:26 PM

Will repost later , wrong pic was posted.

Wonka2581 06-23-2013 05:24 PM

I thought I would also throw this in,
Not all LE departments will use Laser. Most will be from KA/K Bands BC lasers are to expensive for everyone to have one.

///PureSwank 06-23-2013 08:16 PM

$1, 150 DOLLARS FOR A RADAR DETECTOR!?!?! OUCH!!. I have a 70 dollar cobra. And I have NEVER been caught. It works like a charm! I have had it for 2 years now. Thing reads cops before I can even see them!! Over hills and through curves! I don't know how tgese things work but damn I KNOW my sh!t works. My detector will be going off minutes at a time and I have no clue where a cop is it. Then like 3 curves later here he comes lololol. That's right 70 bucks amd loving it.

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CSGLEON 06-24-2013 11:52 AM

As i reported before, i had the cobra 9570 and it worked fine. i would like to see an actual test of like 5 of the best decectors mounted on a windshield and a few cheep ones with someone just driving around and see which one and in what order they go off. or maybe just driving up to a speed indicator on a a road and see which one detecs the radar first.

starview 06-24-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CSGLEON (Post 2376900)
As i reported before, i had the cobra 9570 and it worked fine. i would like to see an actual test of like 5 of the best decectors mounted on a windshield and a few cheep ones with someone just driving around and see which one and in what order they go off. or maybe just driving up to a speed indicator on a a road and see which one detecs the radar first.

You can't do that **** because of false signals from other detectors. Hell my redline is so sensitive if I turn on KA1 I get falsies from you guys with leaky cobras.

Besides it's already known which ones have the longest range - it's the V1, redline and sti driver - then all others behind.

Drex 06-24-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2375897)
I also picked up 2 KA signals that locked up the radar unit, where it displayed a constant KA signals for 3-5 miles , I pulled to the side while it was still making a lot of noise, unplugged it and restarted it and the signal was gone.

its possible you were driving near a new car with adaptive cruise control, lane departure warning, blind spot monitoring systems, etc. these can set off your detector, and when you pulled over, you allowed the offending car to get some distance from you.

theDreamer 06-24-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Drex (Post 2377025)
its possible you were driving near a new car with adaptive cruise control, lane departure warning, blind spot monitoring systems, etc. these can set off your detector, and when you pulled over, you allowed the offending car to get some distance from you.

This is a very high possibility, especially if you were near an Audi they are notorious for causing false signals. Took me weeks to figure it out, also laser can be a false positive with Infiniti using it for its cruise control system.

CSGLEON 06-24-2013 03:27 PM

So what is going on with the Escort max? i haven't seen any reviews yet but escort claims it will be the best detector out there basicly combining the redline and 9500. and the fastest processor.

bdavis89 06-24-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CSGLEON (Post 2377251)
So what is going on with the Escort max? i haven't seen any reviews yet but escort claims it will be the best detector out there basicly combining the redline and 9500. and the fastest processor.

Still on pre-order. I think early purchasers are supposed to get it this week (end of June).

gsxr750 06-24-2013 06:43 PM

I just took the escort 9500 IX back to best buy today, in opinion they are all useless toys.
The fancy escort case probably costs more that the actual detector to make.

If you really want to buy one your better off just getting one of the well reviewed ones for around $150 and play around with it.

Or just get the 9500 IX at best buy and try it for a their 15 day return period and see how performs on the highway and city when the police are out in force in your area.

All odds are you will return it and come up the same results that I found with the California police and Nevada police.

In reality they are just toys.

XwChriswX 06-24-2013 08:26 PM

First off, thanks for actually posting your review... However comma...

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Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2375897)
OK ! So here is my review of the PASSPORT 9500 IX , Traveled a total of around 650 miles in and out of southern California.

I kept the speed in a safe manner in order to avoid any tickets as this was only a test of the radars ability.

Overall I had about 15 occurrences with police , ( 10 highway and 5 local).

Every X band and K Band were always false alerts, had to disable X band alerts.

As said in other posts, did you notice when you were driving past other cars what make/model they were? Could you notice if they had the little collision avoidance radar spots on the bumpers? If so, they were setting off your detector... So to the detector, they're a weak signal. It picked them up, it worked.

All police encounters that set off the detector were KA band or no reading at all.

Did you look up what the local cops and/or HP use for their radars to know which band you'd be up against? Most agencies now only use Ka band, so that's not a fault in the detector.

Surprisingly for me the I did get 2 long range readings of readings of KA Band set ups, range about 1 mile.

So the detector worked... le problem??

I also picked up 2 KA signals that locked up the radar unit, where it displayed a constant KA signals for 3-5 miles , I pulled to the side while it was still making a lot of noise, unplugged it and restarted it and the signal was gone.

Again as said before, were you driving along side a minivan or other euro vehicle for a long period of time? Or hit MUTE, that will clear it on false alerts. It helps to read the manual... :ugh2:


So on the thruway, I had about 8 occurrences of KA band , 2 alerts could have been considered long range 1 1/4 mile and 3/4 miles and 2more about a 1/2 mile.

So it worked 8 times? That's a pretty good track record based on variable terrain.

The rest of the highway KA band were short range indications of only about a 10th mile, basically you seen the cop and the radar unit displayed KA band , no time to slow down.

Did you See the cops before the detector went off? It won't save you every time, thats why You the driver still need to be alert regardless..

I also got one constant KA short range signal from a school warning.

Which most would consider a good thing... Cops love to use those for high $$ tickets.

2 KA short range signals from moving local PD.

Those are the ones that will drive you crazy cause you don't see a "parked" car, so you have to eyeball every car in opposing traffic. :icon17: But even still, it worked 2 more times..

3 none signals from one CHP off thruway and 2 other local PD.

Were they moving, or parked? If they were moving, they probably didn't have them ON while driving, or just as easily were not transmitting while parked either... Sometimes they way to see someone before they transmit. So that doesn't mean the detector didn't work...

One red light camera alert on intersection above the thruway.

GPS database ftw. :tup:

Not one laser alerts at all.

Did anyone you went up against Use Laser? If not, why would you expect to get a laser alert?

So in conclusion I would say the 9500 IX did give some long distance alerts , but it also gave a lot of short range results , that would have resulted in a lot of tickets, if I was speeding over the limit and targeted.

If you speed don't be mindful of your location and potential hiding spots, then you set yourself up for failure... You can't expect to put the magic box on your windshield and drive like a bat outta hell... You've gotta be a mindful driver, which is where I think your issue is. You think people with detectors stop watching the road... you should Never stop watching the road.

Then it also got 2 KA alerts that locked it up and it had to be powered down and powered up to clear it self ????

Read above about Muting alerts to clear/lockout.

In comparison the cheap Cobra $110 radar/ laser detector , there are a lot of similar short range results, it would have been nice to have the 2 detectors working side by side for a review.

If you put them side by side, you would have a lot of false alerts from the detectors setting each other off... Read up on the principles of radar detectors, and you'll understand why. That is one of the reasons the Escort 9500ci and Beltronics STi are worth their cost. They don't have the same problems associated due to their manufacture. Also, these are not able to be picked up on radar detector detectors. (Partly why I got mine.)

So is there a benefit to the escort VS the cheap $110 Cobra unit , the answer is yes, possibly better in long range detection and it gives you speed and red light camera alerts.

Is it worth $500 for the 9500 IX , probably not.

I feel that it question whether your detector warns you or not or if you get nailed for speeding, really depends on the equipment the police are using and the tactics they use for deploying it.

Which is standard across the country... No one disagrees with you there?? :ugh2:

If the police set up parallel to the road , you may pick up a long range signal, but it seems most of the police set up the KA radar so it only emits a short range signal (perpendicular or at an angle to on coming traffic).

So you need to be scanning the sides of the road for them since your detector won't see them as far... standard procedure.

So is a radar laser detector of any real benefit, yes they are , but minor even with 50/50 chance on the KA band alerts. You still face the almost unbeatable detection from Laser and Lidar and Speed Cameras using buried road sensors.

If you drive by a speed camera at 90 mph, or 60 in a 45 then it's your own dumb fault. If you see those nice pretty boxes on the side of the road and slow down, it's not the detectors fault you got popped.

It all boils down to a crap shoot 50/ 50 chance with a $200-$500 ticket and your insurance going thu the roof for about 4 yrs.

Look at it this way, say you get 1 ticket every 6 months at the rate of $100.
In 4 years that's $800. Not even including the insurance increase from the points. So roughly $100~200 there.

$500 for a detector which might prevent them altogether, or $1000 in potential fines/price increases. :icon14:


For me I will stick with the Garmin GPS with red light camera alerts and just lay back with the CRUISE CONTROL SET AT THE SPEED LIMIT and not worry.

So you're saying you never speed? :rolleyes:

gsxr750 06-24-2013 08:40 PM

Bottom line a detector is worthless, if the majority of police use the KA Band and it only detects them with in a 10th mile or less for the majority of detections.

You will not have time to slow down, your only hope is that the police already targeted someone else or is in the process of writing up a ticket to another driver.

Your statements about observing other cars to see if they set off the detector is BS. No one has that much time to waste when driving and you can't slam your brakes on with every false detection

Either the detector works or it doesn't.

The other issue is that you really can't speed and hope you won't get caught, with the 65- 70 mph speed limit on most roads, its fast enough to not have to worry about a $200-$500 ticket to save a few minutes on a trip.

Chuck33079 06-24-2013 08:49 PM

Data does not support that conclusion. Even your experience showed that detectors work at picking up radar signals. You're coming to a conclusion that isn't supportable based on pre existing bias.


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