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Old 06-12-2013, 07:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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read these best buy reviews, specially the one from a cop that tested the unit.

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Because you're going to trust a cop to be unbiased...

But needless to say, I will hear your argument. I'll read the reviews, brb.
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Because you're going to trust a cop to be unbiased...

But needless to say, I will hear your argument. I'll read the reviews, brb.
Hey genius ! radartest.com sells the units, they are not unbiased testing results, you think a online retailer is going to give a bad report on items they sell.
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Interesting.... I always thought V1 was #1

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So again, we ignore the 91.1% of people who would recommend the product to a friend and only listen to the bad reviews? It is impossible to cherry pick data from a sample and come up with a statistically meaningful conclusion. That's just how numbers work.
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Don't get me wrong , back in the 80's and early 90's I had experience with the x band and KA and laser detectors. When you only had to worry about X band you stood a chance of slowing down after the warning. Even the old fuzzbuster brand worked great and even the $50-$60 cobra units.

But as soon as the KA and pulsed band units came out , every time you got a warning it was to late in such a short distance, then came lasers and forget about having time to slow down.

So in the mid 90's the police units became to good to beat and you just had to slow down or get the tickets.

Sure you will get those that argue that you can get a reflected signal bounced off another car at great distance. But how often does this really happen and it may only work in ideal conditions.

The facts are that with most of these detectors, they usually go off all the time from background microwave radiation and other lasers, so after a short time of all these signals you find yourself braking all the time or just turning the unit off.

If you really want try one of the units I would get a cheap $100-$150 units a play around with it and see how they really perform (with a return policy) and just get a good Garmin GPS unit with life time updates and redlight and speed camera ability.

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Don't get me wrong , back in the 80's and early 90's I had experience with the x band and KA and laser detectors. When you only had to worry about X band you stood a chance of slowing down after the warning. Even the old fuzzbuster brand worked great and even the $50-$60 cobra units.

But as soon as the KA and pulsed band units came out , every time you got a warning it was to late in such a short distance, then came lasers and forget about having time to slow down.

So in the mid 90's the police units became to good to beat and you just had to slow down or get the tickets.

Sure you will get those that argue that you can get a reflected signal bounced off another car at great distance. But how often does this really happen and it may only work in ideal conditions.

The facts are that with most of these detectors, they usually go off all the time from background microwave radiation and other lasers, so after a short time of all these signals you find yourself braking all the time or just turning the unit off.

If you really want try one of the units I would get a cheap $100-$150 units a play around with it and see how they really perform (with a return policy) and just get a good Garmin GPS unit with life time updates and redlight and speed camera ability.
My 9500ci has GPS with lifetime updates and redlight/speed camera updates too... And I know how Radar/Laser work. Plus I get the added benefit of other drivers updating the hive database so even if I don't drive in an area, if someone else with one does and updates the database, I get those locations too.
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My 9500ci has GPS with lifetime updates and redlight/speed camera updates too... And I know how Radar/Laser work. Plus I get the added benefit of other drivers updating the hive database so even if I don't drive in an area, if someone else with one does and updates the database, I get those locations too.

Also, downloading Trapster on your iPhone or Garmin works great for heads up alerts for camera and speed traps on unfamiliar roads...constantly updated and it's free.
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Don't get me wrong , back in the 80's and early 90's I had experience with the x band and KA and laser detectors. When you only had to worry about X band you stood a chance of slowing down after the warning. Even the old fuzzbuster brand worked great and even the $50-$60 cobra units.

But as soon as the KA and pulsed band units came out , every time you got a warning it was to late in such a short distance, then came lasers and forget about having time to slow down.

So in the mid 90's the police units became to good to beat and you just had to slow down or get the tickets.

Yeah, you are just dead wrong. In a lot of places tons of patrol LEOs still use constant on K or KA which gets picked up by even shitty cobras miles away. As far as IO goes, as long as you have cars in front of you getting hit you are going to get reflective bounces if you have a good detector. Naturally curvy or hilly areas are going to cut down on your detection range but that's a known fact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYSCZzq2xEI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYSCZzq2xEI

Now if you get hit with Lidar then yeah you cooked, but the fact is Lidar is still way more rare than radar and the LEOs using it have to be setup and sitting still. But lidar can be defeated easier than radar with the use of jammers. So that's a moot point.
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Yeah, you are just dead wrong. In a lot of places tons of patrol LEOs still use constant on K or KA which gets picked up by even shitty cobras miles away. As far as IO goes, as long as you have cars in front of you getting hit you are going to get reflective bounces if you have a good detector. Naturally curvy or hilly areas are going to cut down on your detection range but that's a known fact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYSCZzq2xEI

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Now if you get hit with Lidar then yeah you cooked, but the fact is Lidar is still way more rare than radar and the LEOs using it have to be setup and sitting still. But lidar can be defeated easier than radar with the use of jammers. So that's a moot point.
You're wasting your time. He's made up his mind that they don't work, and no amount of facts, real world experiences or math can change it. Any time his position gets compromised he moves the goalposts.
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Customer reviews that YOU linked as your supporting information. So you are negating your OWN supporting facts. Genius.
Lol. Beat me to it.

So now we've moved on to "radar detectors don't work if a cop doesn't use radar and just paces you?"

Look, if you don't want one or don't think they work, don't buy one. But ignoring the fact that the vast majority of consumers disagree is asinine. Being a contrarian just to be one is silly.
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Lol. Beat me to it.

So now we've moved on to "radar detectors don't work if a cop doesn't use radar and just paces you?"

Look, if you don't want one or don't think they work, don't buy one. But ignoring the fact that the vast majority of consumers disagree is asinine. Being a contrarian just to be one is silly.
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Wow, this thread went from helpful to a troll ruining it quickly. For those looking into buying a high end unit. Just read this.

-Look at your area and what cops use, find a unit that will pair up against that. High speed units using laser, traffic cams or van units, etc.
-Use your eyes
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Read the review on amazon by ERH for the escort redline this review what you can really expect from one of these detectors.

Argue all you want there are simply to many instances when these radar detectors simply don't work and you will get nailed.

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Read the review on amazon by ERH for the escort redline this review what you can really expect from one of these detectors.

Argue all you want there are simply to many instances when these radar detectors simply don't work and you will get nailed.

Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Escort RedLine Radar Detector
Ok lets pick your one review and pull it apart.

-He put them both on with a few feet of each other, major issue right here. It is known that many detectors can interfere with each other if to close, one reason they are shielded so much on the inside.
-Congrats that he only picked up 2 out of 16 cops he saw. I can pass over 30 cops on my way home from work and only pick up a signal 10% of the time. Many times because the cop is on his way home or to his outpost wanting to clock out, meaning he is not running anything so he does not have to stop. I had one follow me, I was doing 90 and he got next to me and sped up to get to his outpost.
-Finally he played it "safe" by sticking to 5mph over. Good, if he was keeping with the flow of traffic by the sounds of his review, then the cops probably were not watching him. They were waiting for the guy doing 15+mph over and tag him.

Sorry but your 'nitpicking' reviews to prove your point is worthless. There are countless positive reviews to outweight any negative ones you can produce to prove these do provide a defense against radar. Is it a perfect system? No, but it gives the driver another level of awareness and in the end that is what is being sold.
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