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The legal side is, jamming a laser signal is not illegal per federal law. Some states have passed specific legal action against jamming police usage.
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And yes, the arrows do make a huge difference. :tiphat: You know exactly where the threat is coming from. Unlike any other dectector, you have no idea where it's coming from. This is one huge advantage V1 has. The front arrow and back arrow tell the story. The side arrows are not a threat as any cop using radar can not get you from the side. They have to be either in front of you coming towards you, or from the rear heading towards you. It really is amazing to see the Front arrow going off then going to the side arrows and eventually to the rear arrows heading away from you. You then know for sure the threat is gone. Very nice indeed.:tup: |
Bottom line is that laser and radar detectors will never respond in time or warn you before the COP nails you .
Only fools buy them anymore, detectors stopped being of any benefit 23 yrs. ago when pulsed radar and laser, instant on were used by the police. |
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And just because they're behind you doesn't mean they're not a threat, or the threat is gone. Many cars now have rear facing radars too I've noticed. |
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Most websites that promote these units or say they test them are actually selling them to , so they are not unbiased tests. Over 25yrs ago when cops only used X band you stood a chance of slowing down with out getting nailed. But with K band KA , laser and instant on units, you are usually already in the sights of the police speed unit and all your fancy $500 -$1000 units will not protect you from a unit with an instant on or laser unit. Some ppl think that by putting a little electronic box with LEDS and weird sounds that they have turned their cars into stealth fighters and are now invisible to police speed detection, but in reality they are in their little fantasy world. Also with the tricky police setting up around a blind down hill curve or hiding in the bushes or using the stalking mood where they come up from behind you and either turn the speed unit on or pace you, you don't really stand a chance. Your better off in the long run of just keeping with the speed limit and saving your money. |
Here is a link to a few customer reviews of a $500 escort units from crutchfield, look at the ratings that gave the units 1-2 stars. These are the real world reviews, not the BS 5 star ones.
Escort Passport 9500ix (Red display) Radar detector with GPS and preloaded camera database at Crutchfield.com Bottom line do the speed limit and save yourself a lot of money. |
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Do you know how radar signals even work? By the sounds of it you are just blinding following what a cop told you. X, K, Ka all fall victim of rebound, redirects and even leaked signal. Meaning even with instant on the signal is not always pinging a target and returning back without notifying anyone else. I can tell you for a fact on a hill in Houston there was a cop on the other side just sitting with Ka on one day and I picked it up on the other side, slowed down. He saw my radar, waved and gave me a thumbs up. State Trooper was using instant on, I was getting random Ka AND K band signals for 1 to 2 seconds, he was going the opposite way of me but pinging cars randomly. He did a quick U-turn and pulled a guy over that passed me at one point. The fight between radar detection and offense is a never ending battle, but no matter what unit you use it comes down to how you, as the driver, react to it. I can pick up a solid Ka from a mile away but if I keep wanting to speed that is my own fault. The upper end units, V1 & Escort, do work and work very well. Cops will always have new techniques to try to beat a radar detector but at the end of the day that is a small percent who use it. Most will just drive around town with K or Ka on 100% of the time, because in the end that is more of a determent than a cop pinging individual cars and deterring you from speeding is the goal not the ticket. |
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I will say that you have to know how to use a radar detector in order for it to be effective. You can't just put it in your windshield and do 90 everywhere. It involves knowing what the detector is telling you, using rabbits, etc. Nonetheless, this thread does amuse me. |
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In my experience buying items usually the small segment of reviews of 1 or 2 stars of a product are a good indicator of quality and what you can expect thru everyday use of the product.
If there are 100 reviews and only 10 are bad, most likely the ppl that gave good reviews only rated the item after first getting it or minimal use. Examples , GYM equipment that is never used, sure its great quality, because its never used, then a guy that uses it 2hrs a day and it breaks in 30 days and they leave a 1-2 star rating. Same thing with the detectors, they are really toys and most ppl that use them never really speed anyway and they give item good rating because it beeps a lot. Then you get the driver that speeds a lot and thinks the detector will keep him from being detected by police and gets a ticket. Reality sinks in they don't work = 1-2 stars. Reality no unbiased reports or testing published that the detectors really work . Anyone care to submit or find any unbiased testing results ? |
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RadarTest.com - Best radar detector reviews from the world's most respected authority. opening page 12 Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR The Great Detector Test - Comparison Tests Radar Detector Tests 2013 / 2012 | RadarDetectr.net Radar Detector Reviews and Speed Measurement Laboratory Test Results ECCTG October 2012 Radar Detector Test - Radar Detector & Laser Jammer Forum Granted, some of those may be dated, but the point is, Yes, independent tests are often done. If you are dumb enough to buy a radar/laser detector and thing you'll never get a speeding ticket, then it's not the detectors fault. You're an idiot. I have my detector for advance warning, because that's all it provides. I try to scan as much of the road as I can, but because I have to pay attention to 360* of other people, I can't be looking ahead, or behind, all the time. The detector can. Lasers/Radars work line of sight just like a persons eyes do. You can't shoot a laser through a tree. So if the cop can see me, I can see them. Now they may gun me, or they may gun the car next to me. Either way, my detector will go off and I will slow down. This helps in 1 of 2 ways. 1. They detect me, I slow down, and he doesn't move. 2. They get a ping, but aren't 100% sure who it is, I slow down and as we pass them they see the other car going faster, and pull them over. The radar detector is just another attempt to be even more alert/aware of my surroundings than I naturally already am. I don't expect it to save me Every time. I'm banking on it coming in handy when there is a moderate tone, and I slow down, eventually passing the cop at the speed limit. Or, it goes off from me being pinged by a parked car spamming trons and the cop isn't paying attention initially, and by the time he checks it, I've slowed down enough that he doesn't bother coming out. I don't do 95 in a 70 anyways, most of the time I'm doing <10 over, unless I know the road/highway well and their hiding spots, I will do <15 over. If you're doing more than that, then more power to you. You must not be worried about the fines/points as much as I do. :ugh2: |
Like product reviews and CAI dyno results, all those tests don't apply because he doesn't agree with them.
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read these best buy reviews, specially the one from a cop that tested the unit.
Escort, Inc 9500ix - Best Buy |
Interesting.... I always thought V1 was #1
Escort RedLine versus Valentine One: Comparison Test and Review. |
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But needless to say, I will hear your argument. I'll read the reviews, brb. |
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Also, you listed Best Buy, a company that sells radar detectors. Do you think they would list negative reviews about a product they sell? But they do, don't they... HMMMMMMMMMM :rolleyes: This guy.. :icon17: |
So again, we ignore the 91.1% of people who would recommend the product to a friend and only listen to the bad reviews? It is impossible to cherry pick data from a sample and come up with a statistically meaningful conclusion. That's just how numbers work.
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Don't get me wrong , back in the 80's and early 90's I had experience with the x band and KA and laser detectors. When you only had to worry about X band you stood a chance of slowing down after the warning. Even the old fuzzbuster brand worked great and even the $50-$60 cobra units.
But as soon as the KA and pulsed band units came out , every time you got a warning it was to late in such a short distance, then came lasers and forget about having time to slow down. So in the mid 90's the police units became to good to beat and you just had to slow down or get the tickets. Sure you will get those that argue that you can get a reflected signal bounced off another car at great distance. But how often does this really happen and it may only work in ideal conditions. The facts are that with most of these detectors, they usually go off all the time from background microwave radiation and other lasers, so after a short time of all these signals you find yourself braking all the time or just turning the unit off. If you really want try one of the units I would get a cheap $100-$150 units a play around with it and see how they really perform (with a return policy) and just get a good Garmin GPS unit with life time updates and redlight and speed camera ability. |
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Also, downloading Trapster on your iPhone or Garmin works great for heads up alerts for camera and speed traps on unfamiliar roads...constantly updated and it's free. |
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Bottom line is the consumer needs do research before buying one and make sure you get one from a retailer that will provide you with at least a 14 day full refund policy and evaluate it. Also last speeding ticket I got a yr. ago was on the thruway by a state cop that paced me and end result it was an unbeatable ticket, you basically pay a high fine parking ticket and no points. |
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That's what I said at least 3 times in that post, customers need to research Before AND after they buy products... So I dunno what your point is there? :ugh2: And that's your own fault, if a cop pulls up and is going at the same pace you are, pull over, slow down, let them by. It's really quite simple... And I never "pass" cops. I give them plenty of room. |
Cops often use visual speed reading or estimated speed reading, where the cop is calculating your speed by how fast you are passing the other cars or a given distance or simply driving along side you or behind in an unmarked car or even painted lines used by aircraft radioed speed given to the intercept car.
Not failure to allow a cop to pass. A lot of courts allow the police to wright this type of ticket. |
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I watch all Impalas, Crown Victorias, and now Dodge Chargers, Ford Explorers, and Taurus' as potential cop vehicles marked/unmarked in White/Silver/Blue/Brown/Black. If I see one, I am eyeballing it for lights in the grill/headliner/windows. Every time. I've seen plenty of unmarked cars on the highway going with and against my lane. When I do, sometimes they are running gun, and my detector goes off well before I physically see them, and if I can't visually see them, then by reverse direction they can't see me either. So by the time they do see me, I've slowed down. As for the white lines on the highway, and aircraft... If you see a helicopter or Low Flying Aircraft when you're on the highway and know there is not an airport near by, and continue to do 90 in a 65, then it's your own dumb fault. If it looks out of place, there's most likely a reason. Which again falls back to bad driver, not bad/worthless equipment. You're not proving your point at all. |
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So now we've moved on to "radar detectors don't work if a cop doesn't use radar and just paces you?" Look, if you don't want one or don't think they work, don't buy one. But ignoring the fact that the vast majority of consumers disagree is asinine. Being a contrarian just to be one is silly. |
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Yeah, you are just dead wrong. In a lot of places tons of patrol LEOs still use constant on K or KA which gets picked up by even shitty cobras miles away. As far as IO goes, as long as you have cars in front of you getting hit you are going to get reflective bounces if you have a good detector. Naturally curvy or hilly areas are going to cut down on your detection range but that's a known fact. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYSCZzq2xEI Now if you get hit with Lidar then yeah you cooked, but the fact is Lidar is still way more rare than radar and the LEOs using it have to be setup and sitting still. But lidar can be defeated easier than radar with the use of jammers. So that's a moot point. |
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Wow, this thread went from helpful to a troll ruining it quickly. For those looking into buying a high end unit. Just read this. -Look at your area and what cops use, find a unit that will pair up against that. High speed units using laser, traffic cams or van units, etc. -Use your eyes |
Read the review on amazon by ERH for the escort redline this review what you can really expect from one of these detectors.
Argue all you want there are simply to many instances when these radar detectors simply don't work and you will get nailed. Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Escort RedLine Radar Detector |
Average customer review 4.3 out of 5 for 88 reviews. Are we to understand that all 73 four or five star reviews are biased or corporate shills?
10/88 reviews are two stars or less- 11.36%, meaning 88.64% like their unit. Right in line with all of the other review sites you've given to "support" your argument. |
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