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gsxr750 06-18-2013 02:47 PM

What hasn't changed is the size of radar beam or signature of the X ,K, Ka bands.

Frequencies have been changed on the KA bands.

Only the way they are deployed and switched on have changed and then you have newer laser systems.

When you have almost 40 yrs of driving thru out the USA and experiencing the various speed control set ups you really gain an understanding of what you are up against.

The way WONKA2581 summed it up is totally correct, believe it or not.

I understand younger drivers belief that when they buy their $500 plus radar detectors or even more expensive jammers and think they are immune to police speed setups.

But the realization comes in when they get their first big tickets and are in denial that their radar detectors and jammers failed to protect them.

So maybe the topic should really be "Radar/Laser Scammers Do They Really Work".

gsxr750 06-18-2013 02:54 PM

What you may not know is the new internet marketing strategies, there are a lot of instances where forums are set up to promote items that are for sale. Then you also have ppl that are paid to post on these various forums, endorsing and raving about the products.

Its all part of the marketing game.

bdavis89 06-18-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 2367871)
Air Unit - or helicopter. some agency have them and what they do is hover high up and look down to the markers they have already set up most of the time they are white X shapes on the side of the highway as you pass the markers the will start a stop watch and then stop the watch as you pass the next marker about a mile down the road or so. Then they take your time and do a math formula and boom they now have how fast you were going. And then radio your vehicle color and make to the cops that are a couple of miles down the road.

I always wondered how they used the air unit to see if you're speeding. Very interesting!

Drex 06-18-2013 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2368773)
I understand younger drivers belief that when they buy their $500 plus radar detectors or even more expensive jammers and think they are immune to police speed setups.

But the realization comes in when they get their first big tickets and are in denial that their radar detectors and jammers failed to protect them.

you seem to be arguing against a point that no one is making. you'd have to be a complete idiot to believe that any detector/jammer set up will make you immune. :icon14:

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Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2368780)
What you may not know is the new internet marketing strategies, there are a lot of instances where forums are set up to promote items that are for sale. Then you also have ppl that are paid to post on these various forums, endorsing and raving about the products.

Its all part of the marketing game.

most people advocating for detectors in this thread are not basing their conclusions on potentially biased tests or reviews posted online. they are based on their own experiences; owning and using detectors over long periods of time.

im starting to believe you are some leo troll trying to make your job easier to give out tickets. :ugh2:

gsxr750 06-18-2013 04:40 PM

Its as simple as this , if your detector warns you before you or the police spot each other visually , then you may get away and slow down in time.

But if the cops spots you visually and then hits you with the instant on or laser ,then 99% of the time you are nailed.

Most of the detectors will boast of their long range detection, which may be true under ideally (setup in their favor) conditions.

But when do you see police setting up on a elevation shooting their radar or laser down on to traffic.

Most of the time the speed detection is set up in an ambush mode.

RiCharlie 06-18-2013 04:45 PM

Not sure what to advice but how effective are these detectors against on off radar?

kenchan 06-18-2013 04:51 PM

btw, V1 is great... detectors are imho worthless without arrows. even if it looks like it came from a game in the 1970's lol

Wonka2581 06-18-2013 05:03 PM

Guys my info was for pure info on how things work from my side, and it had my opinion on the subject. Opinions are like *** holes everyone has one. I was not intending on an argument.

Highway 06-18-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2368938)
Its as simple as this , if your detector warns you before you or the police spot each other visually , then you may get away and slow down in time.

But if the cops spots you visually and then hits you with the instant on or laser ,then 99% of the time you are nailed.

Most of the detectors will boast of their long range detection, which may be true under ideally (setup in their favor) conditions.

But when do you see police setting up on a elevation shooting their radar or laser down on to traffic.

Most of the time the speed detection is set up in an ambush mode.

This is why professional speeders use rabbits to go over hills, around curves, and in known hiding areas. You give yourself about 1/4 miles gap between yourself and someone who appears to be slightly speeding. Even if the detector doesn't pick him up, you're able to see their brake lights. What's funny is that even people doing 5 under will hit the brakes when they see a LEO on the side of the road. It's not 100% fool proof, but works for some when done properly.

MrGump 06-18-2013 06:13 PM

This thread is an interesting read, but I am surprised to see the polarization of radar detectors working vs not being worth it.

I'm going to pick up the passport max as soon as it is released. I'm not getting it as a way to drive recklessly, my focus is to make sure I don't make a bad situation worse. For example, I hate driving the Z next to large semi's and it is usually safe to quickly move out of their blind spots.

I almost agree if I was driving a prius I wouldn't need a detector. You probably won't need one in your sentra either...

CSGLEON 06-18-2013 06:45 PM

I actually just saw that the passport max is coming out within a matter of days and is supposed to work pretty well with the extream range. i think its like 550 bucks.

XwChriswX 06-18-2013 10:28 PM

Well I'm glad to see there were plenty of intelligent individuals to carry on the troll bashing in my absence. :tup:


Sadly, I do not see his opinion, however wrong it may be, changing... Perhaps it's best to just leave him to his own (non-radar detecting) devices. :rolleyes:

madwi 06-18-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 2367871)
First off the Roving Radar - Its set up on the dash of the police car or police Motor cycle. It uses an antenna in the front and rear of the unit. The cop has a control box in the car when he is driving around it is on stand by, when he observes a vehicle he is supposed to estimate his speed, I.E. 67MPH then he has to hit the button on the radar to clock the vehicle. When the radar is on stand by the detector will not pick up the radar beam making it detector go off and alert you, Only when he hits the button to clock you will it go off and tell you hey theres a cop, and by then its to late hes already got you when he hit the button.

Driving this thread off topic but...
This roving radar, can they always be set to ON? Since I starting reading this thread and hooking the 'ol STI up. I noticed just how much activity is going on in my normal drive :rofl2:. I usually drive 5-10 over which means a lot of right lane driving, so no need to really care about getting hit with either laser or radar. Anyways, today I went to the gas station down the road and when I came over the hill the STI screamed KA hit and I saw a state trooper SUV parked at Subway about 150 yards away, I swung in the parking lot and I noticed that the trooper was inside enjoying his lunch and the detector was screaming at me still. I remembered reading your post and thought I'd ask.
tl;dr Can roving radar be set to always on? :driving:

Wonka2581 06-18-2013 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2369301)
Well I'm glad to see there were plenty of intelligent individuals to carry on the troll bashing in my absence. :tup:


Sadly, I do not see his opinion, however wrong it may be, changing... Perhaps it's best to just leave him to his own (non-radar detecting) devices. :rolleyes:

Hmmm I don't have a detector....


But I have master badge does that count? Lol JK JK...

Wonka2581 06-18-2013 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madwi (Post 2369337)
Driving this thread off topic but...
This roving radar, can they always be set to ON? Since I starting reading this thread and hooking the 'ol STI up. I noticed just how much activity is going on in my normal drive :rofl2:. I usually drive 5-10 over which means a lot of right lane driving, so no need to really care about getting hit with either laser or radar. Anyways, today I went to the gas station down the road and when I came over the hill the STI screamed KA hit and I saw a state trooper SUV parked at Subway about 150 yards away, I swung in the parking lot and I noticed that the trooper was inside enjoying his lunch and the detector was screaming at me still. I remembered reading your post and thought I'd ask.
tl;dr Can roving radar be set to always on? :driving:

Yes just leave it on, or I can switch it to stationary if I want to sit on the side of the road. I will post pics tomorrow night so you guys can see what I'm talking about.


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