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m4a1mustang 05-29-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2338200)
Get an MC, twice the rush at half the price.

Or,put unstaggered 7 inch wide wheels on your Z covered in nankangs, get a 1.2 inch drop. Enjoy being an FRS for a day.

And no cheezy interior

370Z on spare tires all around. :tup:

m4a1mustang 05-29-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by XiP (Post 2338211)
Online sarcasm is hard to detect sometimes :ugh2:

When in doubt remove your pants.

Sh0velMan 05-29-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2338200)
Get an MC, twice the rush at half the price.

Or,put unstaggered 7 inch wide wheels on your Z covered in nankangs, get a 1.2 inch drop. Enjoy being an FRS for a day.

And no cheezy interior

Would certainly make the Z more dynamic. Nissan should consider this!

chrischhorn 05-29-2013 03:30 PM

I wasted my money on the Z.......I couldve bought Forza for 1/1000th of the price and had every car in the world.....

Tazicon 05-29-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2338120)
Now that THAT is out of the way...

So I think the FR-S/BRZ is a much better car than the Z, despite it's lack of horsepower, and if you don't agree, you just don't get it.

Discuss.

This ranks right up there with "why are all the owners of FRS/BRZ's douche bags."

StangerGT 05-29-2013 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2338097)

Oh yeah identical.

Hatch vs coupe
2 seat vs 4 seat
night and day wheebases.
v6 vs v8
hydraulic steering vs electronic
300hp vs 400hp
270lbs tq vs 400lbs tq
IRS vs SRA


Wow real similar. lol :ugh:

The only thing similar is FR

Because I said they were Identical right? :shakes head: I believe I said comparable...

Oh an how blind could I have been not to see these differences. :rolleyes:

You forgot to mention the differing color options btw...

Anyway even with all those CRAZY differences you pointed out... they still seem to run against each other rather well. And stop quoting numbers from a spec sheet and instead look at the driving dynamics. I swear, spec sheet racing is worse than the butt dyno.

Either way... my point still stands... they are both worth the money, they both cost in the same area, and they both produce performance which would make them rivals. This gets back to what I said about people being butt hurt that the mustang is even considered a competitor... Get out from under the rock and stop living off the cool-aid.

Its not a bad thing to say a Z is comparable with 100 less hp...

Among reading this forum, and mustang forum comments. You all wanna know what the biggest reason I see people buying one or the other?

1. There aren't a billion Z's out there.
2. Mustangs have a great bang for the buck in modding.
2. People want a muscle car looking car
3. People want a sports car looking car.

StangerGT 05-29-2013 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2338152)
See, man, you just don't get it. You don't need power to have a great car.

Who needs to be able to out run another car, really? I mean, come on.

NOTE: I am aware of the sarcasm around this convo...

Ironically as much as I am not a fan of Subi's or Toyota's... I freaking love the BRZ/FR-S.

It's a nice light car, has a lot of potential, and with a nice turbo could make some impressive numbers I think.

I compare it to a hard top Miata... and those things hold their own. I do think in 5-10 years they will be lill monsters at HDPE events.

I mean... comon!
http://www.forcegt.com/wp-content/up...02-614x409.jpg


And its not about how fast a car can get you around... its how fast you can get the car around... :driving: Once you figure that out, you appreciate other cars a lot more. :tup:

But then again, this is coming from a guy who would like to drop Coilovers and a 5.0 into an old Mercury Zephyr station wagon... and *attempt* to troll around the track :icon17:

StangerGT 05-29-2013 04:22 PM

I love watching shitty cars go fast...

SS_Firehawk 05-29-2013 05:19 PM

Kool-Aid... With a "K" :)

Extra sugar.

JungleZ 05-29-2013 05:24 PM

You guys ever hear s2000 owners argue that it's better than brz. Awesome debate comparison right there.

Tazicon 05-29-2013 06:51 PM

22 pages and still going..................................I love FRS/BZR's, but I have yet to find a non douche bag driving one. Here lately I get them driving by revving their engines trying to get me to race. I guess with an after market exhaust, lowered and rims they think they are suddenly fast. Whatever.....................At least when guys in Mustangs do it they can back it up.

Kingbaby 05-29-2013 07:12 PM

^^^

+1

I was a witness to a douche wanting to play with me in my Z!!!! I had to give him the squinty eyes and I keep the speed limit.

UNKNOWN_370 05-29-2013 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT (Post 2338379)
Because I said they were Identical right? :shakes head: I believe I said comparable...

Oh an how blind could I have been not to see these differences. :rolleyes:

You forgot to mention the differing color options btw...

Anyway even with all those CRAZY differences you pointed out... they still seem to run against each other rather well. And stop quoting numbers from a spec sheet and instead look at the driving dynamics. I swear, spec sheet racing is worse than the butt dyno.

Either way... my point still stands... they are both worth the money, they both cost in the same area, and they both produce performance which would make them rivals. This gets back to what I said about people being butt hurt that the mustang is even considered a competitor... Get out from under the rock and stop living off the cool-aid.

Its not a bad thing to say a Z is comparable with 100 less hp...

Among reading this forum, and mustang forum comments. You all wanna know what the biggest reason I see people buying one or the other?

1. There aren't a billion Z's out there.
2. Mustangs have a great bang for the buck in modding.
2. People want a muscle car looking car
3. People want a sports car looking car.

lol... Driving dynamics, in my opinion are different. It just so happens in the corners, the z and stang post near identical numbers. We can do this shyt all day but i find it boring. :tiphat:

m4a1mustang 05-29-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2338796)
lol... Driving dynamics, in my opinion are different. It just so happens in the corners, the z and stang post near identical numbers. We can do this shyt all day but i find it boring. :tiphat:

They both feel the same to me: slow.

Kingbaby 05-29-2013 08:48 PM

you guys stateside need more technical roads...then that need for speed will die down quickly....

Tantalus Rd.

m4a1mustang 05-29-2013 08:53 PM

We have plenty on the east coast. My favorite technical road is I-95 between the hours of 6AM-9AM and 4PM-7PM.

Red__Zed 05-29-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingbaby (Post 2338853)
you guys stateside need more technical roads...then that need for speed will die down quickly....

Tantalus Rd.

Too many non-motorized vehicles on tantalus.

shadoquad 05-29-2013 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingbaby (Post 2338853)
you guys stateside need more technical roads...then that need for speed will die down quickly....

Tantalus Rd.

I would love more technical roads. You don't have to go blazing fast to enjoy them.

Which is why I love the Tail of the Dragon. If you can't have fun on that road maintaining 35 mph, then you're doing something wrong. Of course, driving it faster is insanely fun (or so I've heard :ugh2:), but the turns are extremely tight. Doing the speed limit on that road will give you all the thrills you could want.

b1adesofcha0s 05-29-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2338805)
They both feel the same to me: slow.

That's because you just got rayped by a Ford Focus while parked at Starbucks
:|

UNKNOWN_370 05-30-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2338805)
They both feel the same to me: slow.

That's pretty funny. :icon18:

m4a1mustang 05-30-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2339526)
That's pretty funny. :icon18:

You know what else is funny? I grilled up a bunch of delicious burgers but none of you bastards showed up!

So I just sat there in front of the TV with a pint of Ben & Jerrys.

Sh0velMan 05-30-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2339536)
You know what else is funny? I grilled up a bunch of delicious burgers but none of you bastards showed up!

So I just sat there in front of the TV with a pint of Ben & Jerrys.

I'm sure you wished it were Ben and Jerry in the flesh, didn't you. Somehow I get the feeling that's the kind of dessert you really wanted. ;)

UNKNOWN_370 05-30-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2339536)
You know what else is funny? I grilled up a bunch of delicious burgers but none of you bastards showed up!

So I just sat there in front of the TV with a pint of Ben & Jerrys.

Awww sorry, i didnt show. CVS didn't have your anal eaze and i didnt want to show up empty handed.

:icon17:

m4a1mustang 05-30-2013 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2339544)
Awww sorry, i didnt show. CVS didn't have your anal eaze and i didnt want to show up empty handed.

:icon17:

Bro, we could have improvised. :bowrofl:

Tazicon 05-30-2013 10:37 AM

Hwy 89A by Jerome AZ. Hwy89A is technical. I think I calculated a curve every 800' for about 11 miles. You can't go fast but you can have fun and it will tell you a LOT about your car and how well it handles. I go there after I buy each car to "test" them so I can see how they do compared to each other.


Edit:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...4/IMAG0501.jpg

jcosta79 05-30-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tazicon (Post 2339692)
I go there after I buy each car to "test" them so I can see how they do compared to each other.

Shouldn't you go there to drive the cars BEFORE you buy them?


I'm just saying...

Red__Zed 05-30-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 2339726)
Shouldn't you go there to drive the cars BEFORE you buy them?


I'm just saying...

sure, if you're poor

/Angelo350Z/ 06-03-2013 08:07 AM

Zing!

Tazicon 06-03-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 2339726)
Shouldn't you go there to drive the cars BEFORE you buy them?


I'm just saying...



I test drive them before, but this is area is more than a few hours from home. Its a weekend journey. When I go I normally do it over a 3 day weekend and hit many of the roads in the area. Same with when I go run canyons in SoCal. I don't do that for the test drive but I do take each car down there to see how they do.

3rdDanZ 10-30-2014 11:35 PM

Get the NISMO or Coupe "auto", don't get the manual. The 2015 Z's are faster down to 12.7 s. The Z ET's just as fast through the 1/8th as the Boss. The Z handles 2X as good, gets better MPG's, brakes better & has better aero. The Boss is all hype & all it does is goes straight.


Car 330'
Stock 370Z Coupe 5.50 s Winner
Stock 370Z Coupe 5.55 s Winner
Stock 370Z Coupe 5.60 s Winner
Stock 370Z Coupe 5.63 s Winner
Stock 370Z Coupe 5.68 s Winner
Stock 370Z Coupe 5.69 s Winner
Stock 370Z Coupe 5.74 s Winner
Upgraded Mustang 5.0 5.74 s Lost
Upgraded Mustang 5.0 5.77 s Lost
N/A Mustang 5.0 5.98 s Lost
N/A New Mustang V6 6.31 s Lost
N/A Mustang 4.6 (Last Gen) 6.32 s Lost
Charger R/T V8 6.48 s Lost


That 5.0 has 3.73 gears, 20" wheels, tires, tune, Steeda intake, weight drop, fuel drop, & Racing Exhaust. It didn't win 1 single 0-60, 330', or 1/8th.

GET THE Z!...because the next one is coming in at 12 flat.

MJB 10-30-2014 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rdDanZ (Post 3017383)

Car 330'
Stock 370Z Coupe 5.50 s Winner
Stock 370Z Coupe 5.55 s Winner
Stock 370Z Coupe 5.60 s Winner
Stock 370Z Coupe 5.63 s Winner
Stock 370Z Coupe 5.68 s Winner
Stock 370Z Coupe 5.69 s Winner
Stock 370Z Coupe 5.74 s Winner
Upgraded Mustang 5.0 5.74 s Lost
Upgraded Mustang 5.0 5.77 s Lost
N/A Mustang 5.0 5.98 s Lost
N/A New Mustang V6 6.31 s Lost
N/A Mustang 4.6 (Last Gen) 6.32 s Lost
Charger R/T V8 6.48 s Lost

Why would a 2015 Z 1/4 time drop down to 12.7 from 13.3 with all the previous years? The Z hasn't had any performance upgrades done to it.

370zHawaii 10-31-2014 06:46 AM

Have to be honest here to a fellow member. The Boss Stang is pretty sweet, has the power, the ride, handling etc etc. But at the end of the day it is still a Mustang. The Nismo is freaking awesome as well. Fun to drive good power, handling is nice. But it is still a 370z. The one key difference for me is that are so many Mustangs on the road already, I rarely see 370's, let alone Nismos. Drive them both and see which you like better.

Chuck33079 10-31-2014 06:52 AM

This thread died in June of 2013 until some jackass decided to bump it trying to troll. I'm sure the OP made his decision a long time ago.

370zHawaii 10-31-2014 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3017550)
This thread died in June of 2013 until some jackass decided to bump it trying to troll. I'm sure the OP made his decision a long time ago.

I saw that after I posted, sorry for that. How do we kill a thread?

UNKNOWN_370 10-31-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 3017395)
Why would a 2015 Z 1/4 time drop down to 12.7 from 13.3 with all the previous years? The Z hasn't had any performance upgrades done to it.

Yes it has! More aggressive gear ratios and suspension upgrade. It's 13.1 for the 14 and below auto. You can make a car much faster just with these upgrades.

SpeedLimit55 10-31-2014 02:23 PM

Depends what you want from the car. I had a friend of mine who bought a Boss for road racing and ended up trading the car in 2 months later. He said it was fast and handled decently but he got bored of it rather quickly.

MJB 10-31-2014 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3018064)
Yes it has! More aggressive gear ratios and suspension upgrade. It's 13.1 for the 14 and below auto. You can make a car much faster just with these upgrades.

Ok, I can see 13.1 with the new 3.9 ratio, but I'm not buying 12.7 stock, no way.. not consistently anyways.

Red__Zed 11-04-2014 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3018064)
Yes it has! More aggressive gear ratios and suspension upgrade. It's 13.1 for the 14 and below auto. You can make a car much faster just with these upgrades.



Lol

NoLaKrewe 11-04-2014 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3018064)
Yes it has! More aggressive gear ratios and suspension upgrade. It's 13.1 for the 14 and below auto. You can make a car much faster just with these upgrades.

They changed the gear rations in manual or auto? And is this just for 15s?

Mt Tam I am 11-04-2014 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3017550)
This thread died in June of 2013 until some jackass decided to bump it trying to troll. I'm sure the OP made his decision a long time ago.


:iagree:
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Originally Posted by 370zHawaii (Post 3017565)
I saw that after I posted, sorry for that. How do we kill a thread?

:iagree: Close thread


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