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chubbs 07-21-2009 01:34 AM
The 'Emperor's new clothes' have been well and truly ripped off in this thread, haven't they?

Must say that I agree with the OP ...Nismo 370z - It ain't worf it!

...still love my Nismo LMGT4's though :rolleyes:

SnakeBitten 07-21-2009 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by carlo_amacio (Post 120153)
poeple always gets defensive over something that going to be better than their car. it happened between the 350z to 350z nismo, 350z to 370z, and now its happening to the 370z with the nismo version
This discussion aint about that. This is the second post thats trying to hint at hate etc. This is more about disappointment than hate. I guess nowadays you have to like and agree with everything or else you are a hater:rolleyes:

Most of us just wanted something more. How can you blame us after 2 tests showing the 370 Nismo Z isnt any faster than the regular Z and Nissan didnt give it an oil cooler at that. Will wait for further testing to be fair but so far it doesnt look like money well spent from a performance to dollar standpoint. Thats basically the ax I have to grind with Nissan. The car deserved to be more than it is imho. This isnt a knock at anyone that has purchased one at all. Congrats. Im just voicing my opinion NOT hate. :tiphat:

xfrgtr 07-21-2009 05:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carlo_amacio (Post 120153)
poeple always gets defensive over something that going to be better than their car. it happened between the 350z to 350z nismo, 350z to 370z, and now its happening to the 370z with the nismo version
:iagree:

juan05 07-21-2009 04:56 PM
imo i think is a great car. yes they did not add an cooler. not everyone who gets the nismo is going to track it. in looks i think is great. there is not 1 thing i dont like.

antennahead 07-21-2009 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SnakeBitten (Post 120227)
This discussion aint about that. This is the second post thats trying to hint at hate etc. This is more about disappointment than hate. I guess nowadays you have to like and agree with everything or else you are a hater:rolleyes:

Most of us just wanted something more. How can you blame us after 2 tests showing the 370 Nismo Z isnt any faster than the regular Z and Nissan didnt give it an oil cooler at that. Will wait for further testing to be fair but so far it doesnt look like money well spent from a performance to dollar standpoint. Thats basically the ax I have to grind with Nissan. The car deserved to be more than it is imho. This isnt a knock at anyone that has purchased one at all. Congrats. Im just voicing my opinion NOT hate. :tiphat:

:iagree: I don't hate the Nismo, I just agree with most of the posters here that the additional money doesn't justify what you get...... our opinion, not meant to dis anybody that buys the car. I actually like the wheels and front bumper, don't care for the rear spoiler..... but styling is very subjective.

It was mentioned about the "sum of the parts working together in harmony", to create the level of performance the Nismo attains. This is certainly true, however, most of the members here are seasoned car enthusiasts, and IMO, are pretty capable of picking aftermarket suspension parts along with HFC, exhaust, intakes, etc, that will work together very well. There are some impressive "tuners' on this site that I learn a lot from. I am sure the Nismo fills a niche however for those that don't do much aftermarket work, nor care to come to a great place like this to learn.

John

mattjk 07-23-2009 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 118708)
I can't get over this so I figured I'd post my opinion and see what you guys think. Four months ago when I bought my 370Z, I was an excited 'convert' from having owned a number of Audis.

With my old Audis, I was truly an Audi enthusiast. I drooled over the S and RS variations of the cars, attended Audi driving schools, etc etc. I was loyal and loved the sportier versions offered by the S and RS models. Audi had and still has something special in their 'sporty racing' versions that is sexy and desirable.

Now I'm a Nissan owner and I love my new Z. However, out comes the Nismo 370Z and all I do is find myself cringing at everything Nismo represents. First, the 'sportier' model looks arguably ridiculous from some or many angles. Even something as simple as more aggressive styling is done with numerous stepoffs and contours that don't compliment each other. To make matters worse, the bumpers look like plastic rather than smooth, sleek and hi-tech. Second, the Nismo really offers nothing that's more desirable. If Audi put out a Nismo 370Z, it would sport a twin-turbo or V8 upgrade. Why isn't our Nismo sporting 400+hp? BMW and Mercedes also know the recipe with their M and AMG versions. People would laugh at Audi if the RS4 just had new front and rear bumpers, some RS4 stitching and a new exhaust.

In short, I'm sorry to say that anything Nismo makes my stomach crawl. The last thing I'd want on my car is anything that actually says "Nismo". For me, Nismo is just Cheese-mo. What do you guys think?
I have to agree, 100%. It is a joke IMO. Buy a base model and with the 10k you save, you can get everything better.

spearfish25 07-23-2009 07:52 PM
Given that I'm the OP, I might as well add that I'm far from jealous of a Nismo 370Z in its current form. Just today I found myself day dreaming again of a better Nismo sporting 400hp and quad exhausts like a porsche turbo (how cool would that look?). Something you look at and think "Hot damn that's sweet." To me, the current Nismo looks nothing more than a base 370Z that a teenager got his hands on and bought some mods from Pep Boy's.

Smallywood 07-23-2009 08:07 PM
My disappointment comes clearly from the lack of available options, simply put you can't sell a 30k base car fully loaded with options to include the nismo goodies for 50k - thanks for cool dealers to sell 50k msrp for 43k... Now I'm happy...

mattjk 07-23-2009 08:26 PM
that s-tune body kit is hideous as well, but it looks ok on your car though...

nicknick 07-23-2009 09:51 PM
Yeah I agree Nismo is a shocker. Nismo looks bad, cheesy and it is not much of an upgrade at all. The standard Z looks much better. Nismo needs to look good and give a substantial upgrade.

RCZ 07-27-2009 10:14 PM
Yeah, definitely no "hate" towards the Nismo from me either. Its just that I would've modified the Nismo's everything, just like I did with my touring and I would've ended up with the same car I have now...except some body parts and my navigation. So I don't really care whether it exists or not.

KillerBee370 07-28-2009 12:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 118708)
I can't get over this so I figured I'd post my opinion and see what you guys think. Four months ago when I bought my 370Z, I was an excited 'convert' from having owned a number of Audis.

With my old Audis, I was truly an Audi enthusiast. I drooled over the S and RS variations of the cars, attended Audi driving schools, etc etc. I was loyal and loved the sportier versions offered by the S and RS models. Audi had and still has something special in their 'sporty racing' versions that is sexy and desirable.

Now I'm a Nissan owner and I love my new Z. However, out comes the Nismo 370Z and all I do is find myself cringing at everything Nismo represents. First, the 'sportier' model looks arguably ridiculous from some or many angles. Even something as simple as more aggressive styling is done with numerous stepoffs and contours that don't compliment each other. To make matters worse, the bumpers look like plastic rather than smooth, sleek and hi-tech. Second, the Nismo really offers nothing that's more desirable. If Audi put out a Nismo 370Z, it would sport a twin-turbo or V8 upgrade. Why isn't our Nismo sporting 400+hp? BMW and Mercedes also know the recipe with their M and AMG versions. People would laugh at Audi if the RS4 just had new front and rear bumpers, some RS4 stitching and a new exhaust.

In short, I'm sorry to say that anything Nismo makes my stomach crawl. The last thing I'd want on my car is anything that actually says "Nismo". For me, Nismo is just Cheese-mo. What do you guys think?
Agreed. I think Nissan is using the GTR as the "RS" or "M" or "AMG" though even though it's a different model.

Plasmaball 07-28-2009 04:41 AM
seems like a waste of money, but i do like to spoiler on the nismo. Which one can buy as an add-on after market.
If i wanted to buy something for the name i would have gotten a Mercedes.

antbear 01-21-2010 03:42 PM
[QUOTE=SnakeBitten;118778]AGREED. Somethings I would have loved to see in this Nismo Z.

1. FACTORY INSTALLED OIL COOLERS for a track focused car is a serious nobrainer. [bruno] Nissan.....Wass Up?[/bruno]

2. Direct Injection and at least 50 more hp[aftermarket is getting close to that with just i/e/h & tune. A cam to exploit an 8000-8200 redline would be nice but not necessary.

3. Its own gearset to maximize all 6 gears [who cares about 1-2mpg loss on a track focused car]

4. Lightweight Racing seats to offset some of the weight added by the seam welds.

5. A more aesthetically pleasing lightweight bodykit that added "significant" downforce.

40-45k for this I believe people would easily pay. I mean they are paying that for the 370z Nismo as it stands and getting way less than the above.



:iagree: The Nismo Z is just the track version....that's the diff.

vipor 01-21-2010 03:43 PM
there are no welded seams on the Z34


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