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Footloose301 03-21-2013 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2222278)
I liked mine so much that after I murdered the first, I picked up another one to play with.

:icon18:

Same story here!

UNKNOWN_370 03-21-2013 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2224016)
Here's the thing.
I like to think I'm not an ásshole, so I like to help out
I really enjoy the forum and 99% of it's members, so I like to help out
I really enjoy helping people fix their car problems because I like working on cars
And I really, REALLY enjoy making corporate, of any company lose just a bit more money.


And as I posted on another thread just 2 min ago:

Lol!!!

Hey, if someone wants a 370, I'll still give them advice, if someone is on the fence, I'll tell them to get something else

Maybe I have REALLY shítty luck
But at the same time there's this list of generic problems:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...0B1080FB3A.jpg

They didn't fix ANY of that on the 370Z

lol:icon18:

90% of this still applies to my experience. lol :bowrofl:

kenchan 03-21-2013 04:06 PM

no regrets from me. :)

Luciano13 03-21-2013 05:50 PM

Only regret is that i took too long to start dressing her up..... Should have started right away, I love her:yum:

Haboob 03-21-2013 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Luciano13 (Post 2225947)
Only regret is that i took too long to start dressing her up..... Should have started right away, I love her:yum:

That's how I'm feeling... it's only been 3mos, but the tax return is coming and it may pay for HFCs and a CBE, or a double-DIN. I can't decide on which to do - 2DIN will leave me $$ left over, so I dunno.

chrischhorn 03-21-2013 09:03 PM

DEpointFive0 only regrets its cause if he would've never bought the car, he wouldnt have ever had to deal with me! lol!

FastPaced 03-21-2013 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2222193)
I know I do... Should've bought a second ISF

This.

So I sold my 370 and got a Starfire Pearl IS-F :happydance:

Nismo89 03-22-2013 12:43 AM

nope. I don't regret my decision in the least. I bought my car because 1) I wanted a sports car that actually had that sports car feel when I sat in it, and 2) I wanted a true sports car with a History and passion , a Cult following if you will. lol.

I didn't care about anything else. I still don't. I have my Z, and its history and heritage.... the love and appreciation to which drives the passion is exactly why I have mine. others may have more power, handle better exc. I don't care. I have my Sports car , its history and along with a fabulous car, you associate yourself with a whole different breed of people, good people. Z people.

Eagle 03-22-2013 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Nismo89 (Post 2226563)
nope. I don't regret my decision in the least. I bought my car because 1) I wanted a sports car that actually had that sports car feel when I sat in it, and 2) I wanted a true sports car with a History and passion , a Cult following if you will. lol.

I didn't care about anything else. I still don't. I have my Z, and its history and heritage.... the love and appreciation to which drives the passion is exactly why I have mine. others may have more power, handle better exc. I don't care. I have my Sports car , its history and along with a fabulous car, you associate yourself with a whole different breed of people, good people. Z people.

Well said bro and i couldn't agree more.:tiphat:

DEpointfive0 03-22-2013 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by FastPaced (Post 2226338)
This.

So I sold my 370 and got a Starfire Pearl IS-F :happydance:

Lol, YAY! Fellow ISF owner!!!
Btw, I have an '08, but if I was to buy a second, I was going to get a '11+ (quicker gear changes, and a softer ride... The ride is TERRIBLE on the 1st gen ISF)
But doesn't it give you a BIG SHÍT EATING GRIN every time you floor it?

DEpointfive0 03-22-2013 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nismo89 (Post 2226563)
nope. I don't regret my decision in the least. I bought my car because 1) I wanted a sports car that actually had that sports car feel when I sat in it, and 2) I wanted a true sports car with a History and passion , a Cult following if you will. lol.

I didn't care about anything else. I still don't. I have my Z, and its history and heritage.... the love and appreciation to which drives the passion is exactly why I have mine. others may have more power, handle better exc. I don't care. I have my Sports car , its history and along with a fabulous car, you associate yourself with a whole different breed of people, good people. Z people.

I tell you, I'm not a history or heritage person, or even a Nissan person... I only started learning about the 240/260/280Z after I got the 370Z (although I always thought the 300ZX Z32 was good looking)

But I DO think... I KNOW the people here, 370Z owners are some of, if not, THE BEST people I have ever met.

That's the only reason I am thankful for my car

Isamu 03-22-2013 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2225730)
no regrets from me. :)

:iagree:

there is a list like that for every sports car...
had a list like that for my GSX...had a list like that for the supra, the 300zx, the 3000GT, even the skyline and NSX have similar lists

KERMIT 03-22-2013 07:34 AM

It's the vocal minority on here trying to convince others that the grass is greener elsewhere.

edub370 03-22-2013 07:59 AM

He's just expressing his opinion kermit. its ok if it differs from the norm.

tbh, sometimes i wish i woulda gotten a c63 or 996 turbo....

misterjb 03-22-2013 09:00 AM

Sorry, no regrets here. I've traded a Jeep SRT8 and even though I miss it, I'm still happy with my "Z".

UNKNOWN_370 03-22-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nismo89 (Post 2226563)
nope. I don't regret my decision in the least. I bought my car because 1) I wanted a sports car that actually had that sports car feel when I sat in it, and 2) I wanted a true sports car with a History and passion , a Cult following if you will. lol.

I didn't care about anything else. I still don't. I have my Z, and its history and heritage.... the love and appreciation to which drives the passion is exactly why I have mine. others may have more power, handle better exc. I don't care. I have my Sports car , its history and along with a fabulous car, you associate yourself with a whole different breed of people, good people. Z people.

:owned:

This should be the first thing you read when you come into the370z.com. I could've not said it any better myself.

:worship:

SPOHN 03-22-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2226568)
I tell you, I'm not a history or heritage person, or even a Nissan person... I only started learning about the 240/260/280Z after I got the 370Z (although I always thought the 300ZX Z32 was good looking)

But I DO think... I KNOW the people here, 370Z owners are some of, if not, THE BEST people I have ever met.

That's the only reason I am thankful for my car

I agree. I've always had a love for the history. My Dad is the one. He owned a 72 240 and all that love was past to me. Now he lives his passion threw me.

Impoet cars are best period. There is no arguement possiable there. Foriegn companies have pride and purpose. Everything on our car is there for a purpose. So be it a screw, bracket, or what not. Domestic cars are not build with the same standereds. More thrown together if I might say. Ask any bodyshop guy.

Plus domestic guys, especially the classics have no respect for the overall culture. They feel there the original and only pure car hobbiest.

UNKNOWN_370 03-22-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2226968)
I agree. I've always had a love for the history. My Dad is the one. He owned a 72 240 and all that love was past to me. Now he lives his passion threw me.

Impoet cars are best period. There is no arguement possiable there. Foriegn companies have pride and purpose. Everything on our car is there for a purpose. So be it a screw, bracket, or what not. Domestic cars are not build with the same standereds. More thrown together if I might say. Ask any bodyshop guy.

Plus domestic guys, especially the classics have no respect for the overall culture. They feel there the original and only pure car hobbiest.

:iagree:

m4a1mustang 03-22-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2226968)
I agree. I've always had a love for the history. My Dad is the one. He owned a 72 240 and all that love was past to me. Now he lives his passion threw me.

Impoet cars are best period. There is no arguement possiable there. Foriegn companies have pride and purpose. Everything on our car is there for a purpose. So be it a screw, bracket, or what not. Domestic cars are not build with the same standereds. More thrown together if I might say. Ask any bodyshop guy.

Plus domestic guys, especially the classics have no respect for the overall culture. They feel there the original and only pure car hobbiest.

I don't buy that at all. Especially the last part.

Sure, there are muscle car fanboys, but if you go to any classic shows you find plenty of guys that appreciate EVERYTHING. I dare say the vast majority are genuine "car guys."

SPOHN 03-22-2013 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2227001)
I don't buy that at all. Especially the last part.

Sure, there are muscle car fanboys, but if you go to any classic shows you find plenty of guys that appreciate EVERYTHING. I dare say the vast majority are genuine "car guys."

Be sure to get up at Zdayz?

I've seen and actually experience plenty of these mishaps face to face and lead to great arguments. It's left a sour taste with me and I haven't come to over look it.

m4a1mustang 03-22-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2227067)
Be sure to get up at Zdayz?

I've seen and actually experience plenty of these mishaps face to face and lead to great arguments. It's left a sour taste with me and I haven't come to over look it.

Not sure what you mean?

Fountainhead 03-22-2013 10:29 AM

For me the Z's in the past were nice but just interesting, but the moment I laid eyes on the 370Z it was love at first sight.
I love every single thing about the car (except the SWL and CSC) but I'll take those as part of the package, no car is perfect.
Besides, it's not like those are impossible to fix anyway, it's just parts changing :), not like designing a car just changing failed parts. I like changing parts, but haha only on my own terms, not on the side of the road!

Overall I've had my car about a month now and it's fabulous.
I like the size, the stance, the appearance, the cabin, the stereo, the drivers seat is very good, handling is superb, ahhh, I just love it.

My wife is worried about me and this car, but I think that's the sweet spot!

Cmike2780 03-22-2013 10:33 AM

You only regret something if it's not what you wanted in the first place. I don't regret buying a Z at all. I would have regreted buying a more practical car, like a sedan, if I listened to what others told me.

Red__Zed 03-22-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2226968)
I agree. I've always had a love for the history. My Dad is the one. He owned a 72 240 and all that love was past to me. Now he lives his passion threw me.

Impoet cars are best period. There is no arguement possiable there. Foriegn companies have pride and purpose. Everything on our car is there for a purpose. So be it a screw, bracket, or what not. Domestic cars are not build with the same standereds. More thrown together if I might say. Ask any bodyshop guy.

Plus domestic guys, especially the classics have no respect for the overall culture. They feel there the original and only pure car hobbiest.




Interesting juxtaposition of opinions there.


There's certainly a lot of variance in terms of what is built by different companies. I think a lot of the impressions many people have regarding cars have more to do with the fact that Japaneses manufacturing was 15 years ahead of the rest of the world throughout the late 80s and early 90s, coupled with the fact that the US was quite a few years behind. It extends beyond cars and continues to pretty much everything--be it electronics or whatever else.

It's less of an inherent quality and more of a fluctuating quantity than most people realize. A less favorable yen and domestic manufacturers ramping things up has certainly changed the landscape from, say, 99. Japanese manufacturing techniques have been studied, copied, and improved worldwide. Everybody runs a lean, JIT manufacturing operations and undergoes DFM and DFSS studies on designs before production.


It's crazy to believe that the Honda of today is the same company as the one that was pushing a smoking s2000 years ahead of it's time...just as it's hard to believe that Ford survived pushing their new edge mustang back then. It's a shame that Nissan is really the only Japanese company pushing anything worthwhile these days, but market conditions dictate most decisions.

My old Hondas were comparative works of art against other cars of their time, but there's definitely been a shift. Back then, you'd have to be a raving nut to choose a Ford Focus over the Civic...today, you'd probably have to be nuts to choose the Civic over the focus.

It takes a long time for public perception to shift, just as it did from 82-85. It takes years to build a reputation, and then the bean-counters decide to run it into the ground to maximize profits for a few years, and you get to start all over.

SPOHN 03-22-2013 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2227084)
Not sure what you mean?

Just hang out and talk. Have fun. You seem like a good person to talk to. What did you think?

SPOHN 03-22-2013 11:40 AM

I just have very strong opinions when it comes to import versus domestic market. I have many reasons and can back them up. Be glad to talk to you more about that someday maybe On the phone or elsewhere. I'd hate to type my long addressed opinions here.

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2227280)
Interesting juxtaposition of opinions there.


There's certainly a lot of variance in terms of what is built by different companies. I think a lot of the impressions many people have regarding cars have more to do with the fact that Japaneses manufacturing was 15 years ahead of the rest of the world throughout the late 80s and early 90s, coupled with the fact that the US was quite a few years behind. It extends beyond cars and continues to pretty much everything--be it electronics or whatever else.

It's less of an inherent quality and more of a fluctuating quantity than most people realize. A less favorable yen and domestic manufacturers ramping things up has certainly changed the landscape from, say, 99. Japanese manufacturing techniques have been studied, copied, and improved worldwide. Everybody runs a lean, JIT manufacturing operations and undergoes DFM and DFSS studies on designs before production.


It's crazy to believe that the Honda of today is the same company as the one that was pushing a smoking s2000 years ahead of it's time...just as it's hard to believe that Ford survived pushing their new edge mustang back then. It's a shame that Nissan is really the only Japanese company pushing anything worthwhile these days, but market conditions dictate most decisions.

My old Hondas were comparative works of art against other cars of their time, but there's definitely been a shift. Back then, you'd have to be a raving nut to choose a Ford Focus over the Civic...today, you'd probably have to be nuts to choose the Civic over the focus.

It takes a long time for public perception to shift, just as it did from 82-85. It takes years to build a reputation, and then the bean-counters decide to run it into the ground to maximize profits for a few years, and you get to start all over.


m4a1mustang 03-22-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2227332)
Just hang out and talk. Have fun. You seem like a good person to talk to. What did you think?

Oh, word. I didn't think anything bad, I was just confused by the wording.

I'll see you there! :tup:

Red__Zed 03-22-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2227343)
I just have very strong opinions when it comes to import versus domestic market. I have many reasons and can back them up. Be glad to talk to you more about that someday maybe On the phone or elsewhere. I'd hate to type my long addressed opinions here.

and you are more than welcome to them. I have strong opinions that are more closely linked to particular builds than brands, and I'm perhaps a bit more willing to evaluate individual cars based on their merits. It helps make sure I'm able to spend all my hard-earned money on more cars than I should.


I've been a far bigger fan of German and Japanese cars than American for most of my life, and probably will continue to be, but it doesn't mean I can't recognize a well-done car when I see one. It also doesn't mean I won't call out Honda/BMW/Nissan when they put out something crappy.

No country or manufacturer is infallible, and it doesn't take much to see that things are always changing on the vehicle market.

MarkeZ 03-22-2013 12:45 PM

My only regret about the Z is that I can't put my baby's car seat on the passenger side. It just doesn't look right..or safe. :) In the past 9 mos. I've only driven 4700 miles in the Z.

ShockWave 03-22-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2222193)
I know I do... Should've bought a second ISF

:icon18::icon18: No regrets here!! Love my Z!!! :driving: Why would you post that on here?

lhinojos 03-22-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2227135)
You only regret something if it's not what you wanted in the first place. I don't regret buying a Z at all. I would have regreted buying a more practical car, like a sedan, if I listened to what others told me.

:iagree: Everyone and their mom was telling me not to get a Z. That I should get something more practical. That it's too much money. Now I have the Z and people are always fighting for shotgun :tup:

BigT 03-22-2013 03:28 PM

I love my Z and have no regrets buying it. But, I am car bi-polar and already can't wait for the next car. I've had my Z for a year and a half now and thats already more time than the last 5 vehices i've owned. I don't blame the Z for it more than I blame myself.

Of course, If I can throw two turbo's on it after my wedding, I'm sure my concentraction will shift back to the Z.

DEpointfive0 03-22-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ShockWave (Post 2227743)
:icon18::icon18: No regrets here!! Love my Z!!! :driving: Why would you post that on here?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2227135)
You only regret something if it's not what you wanted in the first place. I don't regret buying a Z at all. I would have regreted buying a more practical car, like a sedan, if I listened to what others told me.

I post because I'm curious.


And I understand what you mean Cmike2780, BUT I didn't regret it when I bought it, and there aren't many reasons to need TWO ISF's, LOL!

I regret it now because of ALLLLLLL the problems I have and the shitty dealershits and NNA being LAZY...
My car has TURNED OFF while driving TWICE... TURNED OFF, had gas both times... I called corporate stating that this is a HUGE safety issue and I shouldn't be driving my car around... They said well, if you feel it's unsafe don't drive it...
:facepalm: Noooooo... This is my car that I PAID FOR... I need it to drive around, I didn't buy my car to look at or drive only on the weekends... No local dealers have open appointments and the 2 dealers they told me to go to have been booked for a solid week...
When I asked about getting a rental anyways the response I got was, Nissan only pays for 5 days of a rental except if it's special circumstances...
Somehow car turning off on a road where cars are going 60MPH and my car not starting isn't a good enough reason... :shakes head:

I just realized NNA was supposed to call me yesterday to follow up... They haven't

Z_ealot 03-22-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2228436)
I post because I'm curious.


And I understand what you mean Cmike2780, BUT I didn't regret it when I bought it, and there aren't many reasons to need TWO ISF's, LOL!

I regret it now because of ALLLLLLL the problems I have and the shitty dealershits and NNA being LAZY...
My car has TURNED OFF while driving TWICE... TURNED OFF, had gas both times... I called corporate stating that this is a HUGE safety issue and I shouldn't be driving my car around... They said well, if you feel it's unsafe don't drive it...
:facepalm: Noooooo... This is my car that I PAID FOR... I need it to drive around, I didn't buy my car to look at or drive only on the weekends... No local dealers have open appointments and the 2 dealers they told me to go to have been booked for a solid week...
When I asked about getting a rental anyways the response I got was, Nissan only pays for 5 days of a rental except if it's special circumstances...
Somehow car turning off on a road where cars are going 60MPH and my car not starting isn't a good enough reason... :shakes head:

I just realized NNA was supposed to call me yesterday to follow up... They haven't

i know this kinda off topic, but have you tried taking your Z to fontana nissan? one of the better if not the best dealerships as far as getting stuff fixed and in a hurry under warranty without the drama. i know its probably a good ways from you, but couldnt hurt to try.

DEpointfive0 03-22-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 2228442)
i know this kinda off topic, but have you tried taking your Z to fontana nissan? one of the better if not the best dealerships as far as getting stuff fixed and in a hurry under warranty without the drama. i know its probably a good ways from you, but couldnt hurt to try.

You know, I might take it on Monday anyways... I have an appointment with Alhambra Nissan, which has HORRIBLE reviews... But it's Nissan's NUMBER ONE Southern CA warranty dealership... Which I couldn't believe...



Do you or anyone else have a specific person to go to for service?

Z_ealot 03-22-2013 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2228459)
You know, I might take it on Monday anyways... I have an appointment with Alhambra Nissan, which has HORRIBLE reviews... But it's Nissan's NUMBER ONE Southern CA warranty dealership... Which I couldn't believe...



Do you or anyone else have a specific person to go to for service?

talk to scott, he's usually the guy for parts but he knows his stuff and makes sure you get taken care of if he's not available though you can always talk to chris, he is the gt-r tech there and shop foreman

DEpointfive0 03-22-2013 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 2228486)
talk to scott, he's usually the guy for parts but he knows his stuff and makes sure you get taken care of if he's not available though you can always talk to chris, he is the gt-r tech there and shop foreman

Thank you very much brother!
:tiphat:

Dizzy 03-23-2013 09:33 AM

I don't think "regret" is the right word, but if I had it to do over again, I would not purchase the Z.

This was my first sports car and I'm not a huge car enthusiast. I did a lot of research and I consider myself a fairly educated buyer. So, I have no one to blame but myself as there were a number of warning signs I chose to ignore and quite a lot of negative press about the Z. But, I bought one because the car was just so freaking sexy.

From a performance perspective, it's a fun car to drive. It is rough and noisy, but I knew that from the test drive going into it. As for over steer that some people talk of, I just see that as a car that is fairly high end performance wise and I just had to get used to driving a road hugging sports car.

But, there have been a fair number of negatives I have encountered with the Z that would have seem me purchase something else had I known in advance. One thing of note, most if not all of them are fixable, but I am less than impressed with Nissan's approach to known issues. So much so, I do not believe I would ever buy another Nissan again.

First Off - Paint. Everyone knows these cars have terrible paint issues. Unfortunately, the test drive doesn't sort that out and if you order a car like I did, especially late in the model year when selection is poor, you get what you get. When mine was delivered, there was a slight run in the paint on the rear quarter. I had a choice to make, refuse delivery or live with it. No one knows it's there except me and the dealer wasn't fixing an "acceptable factory flaw". Since then, the ease of chips in the paint from road debris is very annoying.

Oil Cooling problem. Known, they don't care and I find Nissan's approach to that unacceptable.

Steering Lock - Known and although recalled, the damage was done for me. Again, a huge reluctance to own up to a known defect by Nissan.

The interior of the car has really worn on me too. My own fault for not driving the car at night but I hate the dashboard and interior lighting. Also, the hands free phone connection is unusable for me. Again, a known fault and reported by a lot of people. "Too bad, so sad" is the response from dealers along with "yeah, we know it's bad in that car". Seriously? hands free bluetooth technology in 2013 and you can't get a decent one in a car. Shameful Nissan! Throw in a few errant rattles and I feel the interior of the car is cheap.

Now, I add that all up with other sports cars I have ridden in or driven since getting the Z. All too often I go "oh wow, what a nice ride and drive", much nicer than the Z.

So, do I regret it? No. I still love her. She's one sexy car. Would I buy her (or another Nissan again), no I wouldn't. Car aside, Nissan has not impressed me as a company and they do not deserve my business.

DEpointfive0 03-23-2013 09:38 AM

^^^ well put :tiphat:

Baer383 03-23-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2229004)
^^^ well put :tiphat:

Well put?

Sounds like he should have bought a STI.


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