Rear facing child seat

cossie1600 · 03-08-2013, 09:18 PM

I have searched for it. There are too many conflicting reports from each place. No $hit backseat is better, but sometimes you have no choice as buying another car is the last thing I want to do for six miles drive a week. At the same time, the only reason why you shouldn't have it in the front is the airbag. Yet if the airbag is disabled, why is it bad to have one? It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. The only thing I can think of is if the dash crumbles in a certain way where it crushes against the seat.

kenchan · 03-14-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I have searched for it. There are too many conflicting reports from each place. No $hit backseat is better, but sometimes you have no choice as buying another car is the last thing I want to do for six miles drive a week. At the same time, the only reason why you shouldn't have it in the front is the airbag. Yet if the airbag is disabled, why is it bad to have one? It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. The only thing I can think of is if the dash crumbles in a certain way where it crushes against the seat.

lesson #1 for new pops: baby can not support its head while newborn.

the baby has a better chance of surviving neck injury with proper back facing infant seat. it's not just the airbag issue.

GL with your new baby.

cossie1600 · 03-14-2013, 12:47 PM

Does your airbag light off stays on with the car seat in it? I put my dog in the car, the light turns on and off, it sort of worries me. I have the baby and the car to myself today, maybe I will take him in the garage to try.

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I guess I was doing it wrong. I got many looks from people like "WTFRUDD". I'll look back at them like "GFYSAHIKWAD". I had my baby in a rear facing seat many many times. The car seat I had had a strap that could be attached to the anchor hook in the back plus it allowed me to run the seat belt thru it in either direction. Eventually he grew to the point where a front facing car seat was necessary. He is big enough now (3 years young) where he can sit and look out the window and see if there is another driver next to me. Now he sits there and smiles at everyone.

I know, my kid rides in style!!!!

Yeah, that's why I don't want to do front facing and why I asked about rear facing seat. If the airbag is off, I don't know what difference it makes if it is front or rear facing. The only thing I can think of is the dash crunches in a certain way, pushing against the seat.

Anyway I am just looking for temporary usage (once a week), I don't want to buy another car unless I have to.

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Originally Posted by kenchan

lesson #1 for new pops: baby can not support its head while newborn.

the baby has a better chance of surviving neck injury with proper back facing infant seat. it's not just the airbag issue.

GL with your new baby.

MarkGideon · 03-14-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Does your airbag light off stays on with the car seat in it? I put my dog in the car, the light turns on and off, it sort of worries me. I have the baby and the car to myself today, maybe I will take him in the garage to try.

I have a backpack that I carry into the office, weighs maybe 12-15 pounds on a packed day, and that is enough to sometimes cause the light to come on and off in my car.

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Yeah, that's why I don't want to do front facing and why I asked about rear facing seat. If the airbag is off, I don't know what difference it makes if it is front or rear facing. The only thing I can think of is the dash crunches in a certain way, pushing against the seat.

Anyway I am just looking for temporary usage (once a week), I don't want to buy another car unless I have to.

Just some quick Googling will provide you info on why rear facing is best for newborns, but to save you some steps:

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Babies have heavy heads and fragile necks. In a crash, an infant’s soft spinal column can stretch, leading to spinal cord damage if he is riding facing forward. The baby could die or be paralyzed permanently. This is true even for babies who have strong neck muscles and good head control. The neck bones are flexible, and the ligaments are loose to allow for growth.

If the baby is facing forward in a frontal crash, which is the most common and most severe type, the body is held back by the straps — but the head is not. The head is thrust forward, stretching the neck and the easily injured spinal cord. Older children in forward–facing safety seats or safety belts may end up with temporary neck injuries or fractures that will heal. But a baby’s neck bones actually separate during a crash, which can allow the spinal cord to be ripped apart. Picture what happens if someone yanks an electrical plug out of a socket by the cord, causing the wires to break.

Sure, only once a week or so for six miles. And it possibly would only take one minor accident to result in a life-changing event for the baby. It is a decision you will ultimately have to make and live with. But if it were me, I would not do it.

kenchan · 03-14-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkGideon

Sure, only once a week or so for six miles. And it possibly would only take one minor accident to result in a life-changing event for the baby. It is a decision you will ultimately have to make and live with. But if it were me, I would not do it.

cossie stated it was a temporary baby?

cossie1600 · 03-14-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkGideon

I have a backpack that I carry into the office, weighs maybe 12-15 pounds on a packed day, and that is enough to sometimes cause the light to come on and off in my car.

Sure, only once a week or so for six miles. And it possibly would only take one minor accident to result in a life-changing event for the baby. It is a decision you will ultimately have to make and live with. But if it were me, I would not do it.

That's why I am testing to make sure the light will come on permanently. I think it flickers on and off due to how the weight is distributed with a heavy bag or a dog.

As long as the airbag is off, I am just not seeing why it is more dangerous than any other car? That's what I am trying to get at. Can you think of a reason?

MarkGideon · 03-14-2013, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

As long as the airbag is off, I am just not seeing why it is more dangerous than any other car? That's what I am trying to get at. Can you think of a reason?

It is not any more dangerous than any other car. However, just like in any other car, forward facing is not the safest for newborn/small babies.

Again, an excerpt from what I posted earlier

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If the baby is facing forward in a frontal crash, which is the most common and most severe type, the body is held back by the straps — but the head is not. The head is thrust forward, stretching the neck and the easily injured spinal cord.

cossie1600 · 03-14-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkGideon

It is not any more dangerous than any other car. However, just like in any other car, forward facing is not the safest for newborn/small babies.

Again, an excerpt from what I posted earlier

That's why he would go in rear facing. He already has a recaro lined up.

Waiz · 03-14-2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

lesson #1 for new pops: baby can not support its head while newborn.

the baby has a better chance of surviving neck injury with proper back facing infant seat. it's not just the airbag issue.

GL with your new baby.

I think this post should have ended the discussion

I can't believe this is actually being debated

cossie1600 · 03-14-2013, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Waizzz

I think this post should have ended the discussion

I can't believe this is actually being debated

Who's debating? First post

Rear facing child seat
I know the car comes with a tether for forward facing child seat along with the airbag being disable. Anyone know if it would be possible to install rear facing child seat (assuming the thing actually fits). I seem to recall someone said Nissan didn't allow it for some reason.

Waiz · 03-15-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Who's debating? First post

Rear facing child seat
I know the car comes with a tether for forward facing child seat along with the airbag being disable. Anyone know if it would be possible to install rear facing child seat (assuming the thing actually fits). I seem to recall someone said Nissan didn't allow it for some reason.

Does it fit? Yes, is it recommendable, HELL NO

cossie1600 · 03-15-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Waizzz

Does it fit? Yes, is it recommendable, HELL NO

That brings me back to the original purpose of this thread. Outside of Nissan's recommendation, are there any SCIENTIFIC reason as to why? I assume Nissan did it for legal reasons

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	I have searched for it. There are too many conflicting reports from each place. No $hit backseat is better, but sometimes you have no choice as buying another car is the last thing I want to do for six miles drive a week. At the same time, the only reason why you shouldn't have it in the front is the airbag. Yet if the airbag is disabled, why is it bad to have one? It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. The only thing I can think of is if the dash crumbles in a certain way where it crushes against the seat.