too much grip... yet wants awd platform?

all cars u listed have TERRIBLE interiors.... u are bored and u want a freaking juke??

dude were u high when u made this

Hyabusa Smart Car is where its at!

Home of SmartBUSA - Hayabusa GSXR 1300 powered Smart Car.

Seriously though your reasoning isn't very sound.

08' 335i, done.

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I am driving my wifes juke to work now and my Z has a lot more room, especially when I have my daughter in the carseat behind me. My knees touch the the dash. :shakes head:

She had a versa before and that had more room than the juke.

looks are subjective, while i wouldn't trade my Z. I do like the fact i can modify turbos for cheap. i like the jukes looks and love the way it drives. I wish there were more valid TEST DRIVEN OPINIONS ON HERE..

If you arent 100% confident in your decsion dont do it OP, you'll regret it later.:tiphat:

I understand where you're coming from. As great of a car as the 370 is, it's not for everyone. Sure it's great fun in the beginning but after a while, for some, that novelty fades away. Different strokes for different folks. Sounds like its time to move on to the next car. Plus you're only 19, its going to be a while before you finally find "that" car you're willing to keep for a long time.

yah, i think the 370z was intended for folks in their late(r) 30's and above... per some release video by nissan several years ago.

same goes with the G35C. the intended demographics per nissan's designer was for mid-50's folks taking their wives (usually one at a time i guess :icon17: ) to onsen on the weekends while their kids went to college.

why we get teens and younglings in their 20's complaining bout our cars is beyond me. :D

I missed this the first time. Keep the Z. Given how most people's lives go, it may be a long time before you can justify another impractical 2 seater. Plus, chicks love the Z.

Get a Civic Si and put lambo doors on it.

/Thread.

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yeah the Z is a great ride man. I would do this to make it more exciting

1. Sway bars. Eibach on mine is nuts
2. Spl limkages. bout to do those
3. poly-motor mounts. Im about to do this too
4. intake I did hoses and filters. Happy with results
5.HFC Haven't odne yet
6.exhaust. No res n y pipe. Happy with results
7.tune. Not done yet. not till i get a few more things done.

Brakes. I completed. Completely happy with braking setup, makes huge diff.

09, the 07,08's were ****. 10 would be aloooot better for reliability.

I sense the OP is in a lease that's about to end. Nothing else explains his reasoning to me.

THIS
i test drove a juke today and it was fun, a bit too high for my taste but nothing some coilovers couldnt fix
i only wish it came in a manual AWD, the CVT is nice, but i love driving manual too much lol

interior is something i dont really care about, but after reading about ringland issues with the new WRX/STi, subaru is officially off my list and in my experience my old DSM was reliable, just have to keep up with maintenance thats all plus the EVO(except the EVO X) uses the same engine as the turbo eclipse does(4G63T FTW)


the Z is only fun when being taken to high speeds around curvy roads or on a track, if i went to the track often i wouldnt be complaining but i dont and honestly i want a car thats a fun street car
just driving my brothers turbo eclipse(my old DSM) is a blast around town and im not sure why it is like that but its just more fun then driving the Z around

i would never straight up trade my Z for an Evo, i would sell it and use the money to buy an Evo(seeing as Evo 9s are about 18K used)
i use to own a DSM so i know what it entails but if taken care of properly, they can be just as reliable as nissans can

i bought my car thank you very much
just cause im young doesnt mean i dont have a well paying job

oh and FYI
turbos are a ton more fun the N/A cars....

im looking for a car with a factory turbo

lollololololololololol. Man i dont think he's complaining. But realistically when you are trying to mod. This platform is a PITA. Period. I love my Z and not giving it up. But im already looking for something turbocharged to park next to my Z. Or a Big V8 that throws off some deep **** off the line.
I would loooooooove a GT-R but my wife would kill me if I dented us like that and sacrificed that much income.
An Evo is tempting. A juke??? I don't know but the juke Nismo looks promising. Camaro SS1LE. Now thats a fvcking car!!!!!

I am not going to jump any guns cuz i want a Z35 if it meets my expectations? And im still not trading my Z34 for it. I do love this car. but it's not SERIOUS enough as a push to the limit sports car anymore. I need more power. And this bitch is pricey to get it out

Dudes in here wanna fanboy it up on some car models. Looking at half the story. AWD is fun, it just harnesses a different criteria of fun and driving skill.
turbos give more access period.
the Z is NOT boring. It's excellent by a huge margin as a stock or lightly modded car. But it leaves a bad taste in your mouth and empty pockets when trying to mod for serious use. A bmw 135i is cheaper to mod. When you can say its cheaper to mod a BMW??? There's a problem.:wtf2:

Evo's are fun too. :) Dude keep the Z though. Pay it off or see what the Z35 brings. Or pay it off then add a juke.:tiphat:

If some of the runs around San Diego don't excite you, you aren't pushing it hard enough.

The old Eclipse handles as well as a new Beetle. I still say go for a Beetle Turbo. Heck, it's more of a chick magnet than a Z, look at how many chicks are driving it

Honestly, the Z is at another level than those cars and much more fun. also RWD seems more fun for someone that doesnt track as opposed to AWD. i think what you enjoy is the fact that those cars are boosted.
To each there own, but id rather Boost the nismo, and have a faster much more unique car that you dont see every day. Nothing interesting about another evo or sti on the road. but a boostted nismo :tup: besides, your young. you dont need back seats lol.

either way, best of luck on your decision, but i will say from experience that my Z gets more :tup: than my friends evo, which is much more modified.
its a Z forum, of course were biased :happydance: lol

yep, been there done that long time ago. fun at first, pita later. then you end up with a competent car (in stock form) like the 370Z for street use and drive it mostly stock.

it's like after a while modding gets old and you just do the minimum mods to a nice car to make it yours instead of tearing the thing apart to make it some crazy road machine that runs unreliably and get tired of.

i think best is keep your nismo and get another 4banger turbo hatch that you want. you say you make good $ you can afford it.

then you can do your experimenting and later realize why the nismo is the way it is.

BTW, the nismo runs harsh for a 19yr old? wtf... my modded cars when i was younger were much MUCH stiffer and cornered like on rails at the cost of comfort. im too old for that now. 370Z is nearly perfect for street in stock form. just needs a few things (exhaust, stereo mod).

over and out GL! :tup:

90% of the time Subaru ringland failures are caused by people slapping an intake and/or exhaust on the car without tuning for it. If you're ok with 325-350 whp, go with the Subaru. It'll run forever with a good tune. If you plan on going bigger, get the Evo or plan on building a motor.

i hear that a tune can prevent ringland failures but i have read cases about it happening to 100% stock cars and how subaru went to great lengths to research the owners interests(the one story that stood out to me the most was that subaru denied a warranty claim for ringland failures on a 100% stock car all because the owner liked to watch the rallycross X Games event and he "might" have over reved it to cause the failure) plus the only way to avoid ringland failures is to go aftermarket and if you do that, your warranty is as good as gone

not that Mitsubishi's warranty is any better but i would rather have a lack of warranty then having warranty but being denied a claim all because the manufacture things you "might" have done something


@KenChan
my definition of good money probably isnt the same as your definition of good money, im making good money for a 19 year old(about 3k/month) and right now most of that money is being dumped into insurance($2500/6 months) for my car, car payments(about $600) and rent(about $1200)
the rest goes into eating, gas, and other misc items
i dont really have any extra money to spend so another car payment isnt out of the question if i get a turbo 4banger, i can buy outright but im not going to buy a honda or some other cheap beater car/rice rocket(which is all i can really afford to buy outright) and on top of it have insurance go up on me...

please dont say what i can and cant afford without knowing my financial situation first, its kind of rude...

@everyone else, i appreciate your opinions on the matter, i know this is a Z forum so i expect everyone to be bias towards the Z(heck i am bias sometimes as well) but i also want some real opinions on the matter
thanks

A couple of other 4 bangers not mentioned are the Mazda Machspeed 3 and Genesis Coupe. The Genesis comes in turbo and has a decent interior. Hell, if you want cheap you can go with a Neon SRT 4. They cheap to mod and go like mad! Good luck on your journey!

You are making the classic younger person mistake of car hopping. Even if you hop to a cheaper car, you won't be happy and hop again. You are making peanuts for living in the San Diego area, so take some advice and think really hard about the financial impact of your decisions.

this is quite true. I drove 370z Nismo to work for about 5 months. the male co-workers liked the car. Only one female co-worker ever told me she liked the car.

then I stopped driving the 370z and got a New Beetle for daily commute. Five or six women told me they liked that New Beetle :eek:

i went to Subaru dealer to order a WRX limited because I needed a sedan to drive my friends/relatives around on the weekend. the sales guy told me the order time would be about 16 weeks. This is my 3rd week into it :eek:

for me, the dealer made it come true.

I brought my 370z nismo in for service and later that week, the dealer called me and asked me if I would be interested in selling them the car.

they offered me $12k less than the price i had paid for the car. I had the car for 3 years so $12k/36 = $333/mo loss. For me it was reasonable -- had I leased a 370z nismo, the cost per month would probably be higher, so I took their offer.

about the 370z nismo.
it looks fantastic and is very quick but the ride is too harsh for me. The roads where I live aren't too good. also the stock stereo on the 2010 is pretty poor and there's no factory NAV.

those are my likes and dislikes.

The only attention the car gets is usually other dudes.

For the most part, I think you're right, although I've received compliments from people of both genders.

Generalizing here, most women don't care enough about performance cars or driving to even know how special a Z is, and most men care only enough to know what a Z is. Every once in a while, you get an enthusiast of either gender who recognizes and enjoys the car enough to compliment it. But you also get compliments from non-enthusiasts who just recognize that it's a nice car.

Don't u think that's kinda sad that the ecu parameters in that car are so narrow, and the ecu is so unadaptable to the SLIGHTEST afr change that it causes catastrophic engine failure??

Par for the course on a turbo car if you run it hard.

Messing with the air tract on an FI car is much different than something NA.


The only reason you hear about these issues on subarus more than other cars is the types of people that own them and how they drive.

Don't be offended by Ken's advice... Cuz it's the same advice I gave you and it's good advice. Pay off the Z bruh... Then buy a turbocharged car to play with. I realized the Z was NOT the best mod investment after purchase. I thought $18k budget for turbocharging the car was good. I was wrong. It's like a $35k budget to do it right. It disappointed me. I don't like doing half a job so i am going to do with the Z what Ken said, Make it mine with personalization and getting the best out of suspension mods etc... Power mods will be minimal.
Now i'm upset about Z modding cost, but being upset and not liking my Z are 2 different things. Basically I'm saying. I know how you feel. I rent camaro's and vettes alot. They have way more power and fill a void the Z can't give me. But the Z fills a void those cars can't give me too... In other words. no car under $80k will be close to perfect. But you can have a couple cars in your life that can fit different roles in your driving mood. Pay off the Z. Keep it. Then buy a STi, Evo, or even a Juke Nismo. Buy what YOU like. We don't pay your bills so our opinion only holds so much weight..
People will throw all types of philosophies on you. I can give you my philosophy on BRZ's that many won't agree with. Opinions are like azzholes. In the end the decision is yours.

:tup: GL

It's really not subarus fault. They had to get the emissions down somehow. I blame the government.

The funny part is the new Beetle was redesigned to be manly with it's new NAZI helmet design. lol.

for me the coolest things about the VW Beetle are the insurance rate is very low and you have the confidence that no guys would want to steal anything from it.

Let's say you had to park your Z outside overnight, there is a chance that some bad guys might steal your tires/rims. With the Beetle, you don't have to worry about that :-)

maybe i misunderstood kenchan advice but what i picked up from it was keep my Z and buy another car because i make good money

well i do have that fear that when i switch cars im going to regret switching but i dont know if i like the way another performance car would feel

i think there will always be a deep longing for the car(like i do miss my eclipse but because its now my brothers car i can still drive it occasionally) and i will always miss it no matter what car it is

financially speaking, my car payments would go down if i got a cheaper car, i dont know about insurance but it honestly cant be any higher then it is now unless i got a more expensive car