I put the Waze app on my iphone. Way cheaper and more reliable than the V1 I owned

So how did he defeat the jammers?

That particular incident prompted many in the community to break off and form a new one. (radardetectorforum.org) The primary focus of this forum is to help people use countermeasures without broadcasting info that LEO's may find useful.

There are three primary ways to defeat jammers.

After experimenting with many others in the countermeasure community, one of the weaknesses can be overcome with crazy installation methods and extra $$$ and the second weakness could only be overcome by companies that make the jammers, and the cost to consumers would probably tripple what they are now. (And do nothing about the first method)

Since there is no easy "fix" for the consumer, the only people who have anything to gain from spelling out the weak points are LEO's.


The third is to simply change gun programming/puls rates etc. But that is just a cat/mouse game between LIDAR makers and Jammer makers that keeps changing. -Not really a "weakness".



But trust me. We are not invincible.

It's best to "defeat" our adversary without them even knowing there has been a contest, much less that they just lost.


*edit* just saw you are in port charlotte.

We have an autocross this weekend in Ft Myers! You should come out.

http://www.gulfcoastautocrossers.com/

Oh and by spelling them all out on here, the cops that read this forum daily will go out and implement all the changes immediately thus rendering all of our jammers useless, I get it.....





:driving: As I head back out to do 250km/h down Anthony Henday Drive.

Understood, thanks. I just wonder, in Florida where there are no front plates, if laser is effective. Also, I hear a lot that once you've picked up laser on your detector, it's game over but wouldn't a detector pick up some stray laser bouncing here and there thereby givingvyou some warning that laser is being used in the vicinity at least?

Think of laser as the cop using a laser pointer to get your speed. Now for a radar detector to pick it up that beam is going to have to be pretty close to the location of the head on the radar detector. But if it gets close enough the detector will go off, but like you said by then its to late.

Now think of a car infront of you and the cop shooting laser. The chances are very slim that any part of the beam will bounce off the car in the exact direction you need for your radar detector to pick it up. That beind said if the cop has bad aim or hits the car just right in front it is possible.

^This.

The V1 is by far the best at picking up "scatter" but even then, I would put your chances at getting a laser "save" under 5%.

V1 > escort

reason:
arrows from the 1980's
no cruising cars from behind triggering laser
reminds me of KITT

V1 < Escort

Only for the reason of the Escort to lock out signals. Mine stays quiet unless either a sign was moved (they use K band) or there is a cop around.

I do wish it had the arrows though.

It depends on application.

I run a 9500ix in my work van because of the GPS filter. The V1 in my Z for the arrows, response time, and ramp up. It's also a more snsitive on everything but 35.5...then it's close. In addition to the V1, I also run an STi-R in the Z for the best range possible on Ka.


Not to mention the stuff in the other two cars set up because my wife not only hates false alrts, but doesn't even want noise for real alerts. (Set her up with blink red lights between the tach/speedo.)

the hell, mitco. i said V1> Escort!! :mad:



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Look at the veil (a non reflective coating for plates) website for awesome links on how LADAR works.

With a good LADAR jammer (or veil) you can make it difficult for the LEO to get your speed so you will get a few seconds of laser alert before the cop has your speed. that means you have a few seconds to make any required adjustments. I can count on 10 seconds using 9500ix. (I usually turn it off though well before then)

...If you live in an area of active Wazers. I have a gold crown...and 90% of the traps I encounter are unreported because its mostly just me up there.

Here are my "countermeasures"
1.9500xi or ci depending on the car (with stealthy use and behaviors)

2.Waze app (works better during rush hour and increased traffic)

3. Area knowledge the LEOs have their favorite hiding spots and are essentially lazy and uncreative. (they have no need as revenues are very high regardless)

4.rabbits and preceding driver brake lights. (really one of the best measures there is unless the LEOs are really well hidden... they don't usually bother as it takes to much time away from harvesting citizens)

5.intuition (spider sense?)

6.luck (just saying)

7.knowledge and polite use the U.S. constitution. (I figure the government doesn't really seem to have any use for it, so I might as well get some mileage out of its dying moments...)

Radar Detector...who has one?
 

Lazer "shifters" proven reliable and effective 3 times this week in the revenue zones if my commute. I like that I get to decide what a safe speed is now and am no longer an abused part of a liberal a state's revenue stream. Thank you passport 9500!

The thread has moved on a bit, but wanted to add:

It's fine to protect your rights when being pulled over. "Do you know why I pulled you over?" "I'm not sure, could you tell me?" or "Can I look inside your car?" "Sorry, officer, but I have to respectfully decline unless you have a warrant or stated probable cause. Not trying to be a ****, but just trying to make sure we both use the system in place."

That's a lot better than being a **** and spouting off about fundraising tickets and basically throwing attitude at a LEO just to make some point they probably agree with and don't have the power to change. If you want to cop an attitude, do so to lawmakers, not the LEO who probably pulled you over for a valid reason (even if it's menial like a light out).

I find it best to just avoid being put into those situations. They're trained to keep control of situations, and if you throw attitude at them, you're basically challenging their control of the situation. Not that either side *should* win, but that's the training. Unless a driver has had similar training/experience, they shouldn't be throwing the **** attitude.

Going off about philosophy and laws and ethics on ...traffic...rules, is (arguably) a waste of energy that could be spent battling other laws. And most of those quotes have to do with actual "wrong" laws and oppression, not just laws you find inconvenient.