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Originally Posted by kmkraft12 Was there a 3.7 before the 370, or g37. Was there a 3.5 before the 350, or g35. Was there a 3.8 before the GTR. All

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Old 01-17-2013, 08:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Was there a 3.7 before the 370, or g37. Was there a 3.5 before the 350, or g35.
Was there a 3.8 before the GTR. All engines start somewhere and nissan has been slowly going up in displacement since the start. Why would they go away from a very successful sports car line up to switch to something new before testing it out.
2.4, 2.6, 2.8, 3.0, 3.5, 3.7 seems like a nice progression
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FWD? Noooo

Heres the words from Motortrend: Nissan Working on Mini-Z to target FR-S/BRZ - Motor Trend

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On the heels of Nissan's recent motorsport successes -- a factory-backed GT-R placed first in class at the 24 Hours of Nurburgring and the radical DeltaWing stole the show at the 24 Hours of Le Mans -- comes news that executives have finally given the green light for a compact sports car known in house as the "Mini-Z." It's not a new rear-drive Silvia/240SX -- that project was cancelled in late 2008 during the financial crisis. Instead, it's a compact, front-drive-based sports car that will be aimed squarely at the Toyota GT86/Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ. Plans for such a car were first revealed at last year's Shanghai auto show in the form of the Compact Sports Concept. The company spiel called it a unique sports car for drivers in emerging markets leading active lifestyles with an interest in motorsport, but we can expect to see it in established markets as well. As you can see in this rendering that depicts what the car may turn out to be, it has morphed from a sporty hatch into an aggressive coupe. There is also word that there will be an AWD version to go with the base FWD variant, based on the Juke's all-mode 4x4 i-system with torque vectoring.
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Though Nissan didn't reveal the concept's powertrain in Shanghai, we've learned it was fitted with the 190-hp, 1.6-liter turbo-four from the Nissan Juke that also served as base for the engine in the DeltaWing. Though the engine gives up some power to the 200-hp flat-four in the Toyobaru, it's said to have a wider torque band with stronger mid-range and top-end response. China is thought to be the car's main market, but Japan and some European countries are destined to receive small batches as well, with the U.S. still under consideration. Price-wise, the Nissan is expected to undercut the Toyota and Subaru by as much as 10 percent, carrying a sticker price somewhere below $22,000. Nissan will be able to cut production costs and weight by incorporating the current Juke's platform and turbo powertrain. Another major difference will be design. The Mini-Z coupe is expected to follow in the Juke's footsteps and employ some unique lines, eschewing the traditional sports car proportions of the Toyobaru. One insider says the Nissan will be close in size to the Honda CR-Z. The project was conceived as a joint Japan-China endeavor, with Japan taking the R&D initiative while China worked on design and data assembly, according to a source close to Nissan. It has since been approved by all the relevant departments inside Nissan's HQ, and, according to our source, is well into the development cycle with a debut possible as early as late 2013.

Read more: Nissan Working on Mini-Z to target FR-S/BRZ - Motor Trend
and a early illustration of it: IDK
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FWD? Noooo

Heres the words from Motortrend: Nissan Working on Mini-Z to target FR-S/BRZ - Motor Trend



and a early illustration of it: IDK
This Article states FWD/AWD??? This is from last summer when rumors were rampant but lead nowhere. Now we are beginning to see infiniti/nissan come out so we are getting a basic idea of the next gen nissan philosophy.

Non RWD platforms don't deserve to carry the Z, Silvia or Skyline name... Sounds like it make a great, Sentra/Altima coupe like someone mentioned. Or even designate a new name and generation of sports car. AWD/FWD, it won't be a BRZ direct competitor... It wont sell to the same type of enthsiast. But I'd rather the Turbo AWD than the N/A RWD.

The infinit, looks nice but looks like its more luxury than sport. Most infiniti concepts are electric... In Nissan... The Altima sportiness is dumbed down in style though it gained .4 second accelration. Sentra has no SE-R, looks kinda dull and lost 20hp, The pathfinder is the most laughable vehicle. Remember when a pathfinder was an Off road vehicle?
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and a early illustration of it: IDK
Yuck ill call that a zuke if it looks that jukeish pass
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The Z can't move up market. That's what lead to the eventual demise of the Z32. It was exceeding $40k, which was pricey for its time. The Z is supposed to be the budget sports car for the masses. All these new cars nowadays are full of electronic gizmos, and it seems like the unfortunate result of what the market wants nowadays beyond cup holders.

I miss seeing budget pocket rockets in the $15k range. How about a RWD economical pocket rocket with a 1.6L turbo (option)? It serves as an economical starting point for enthusiasts, and is economical for those who want a fun fuel sipping car with a bit of turbo grunt.

If the Z remains in the upper $28k to sub $30k range, it must face stiff competition with the pony cars. Even if it is in a different class, it is already being subjected to such comparos. Look at owners who dropped the Z in favor of Mustangs (no offense, but that's just how it is).

So here's what I think Nissan needs to cover their bases for performance, value, and fuel economy:
Sub $15k FWD: Sentra SE-R (standard 1.6L turbo)
Sub $20k RWD: Silvia (standard 1.6-2.4L turbo)
Sub $30k RWD: Z (3.5-3.8L NA V6 or maybe 2.5-3.0L turbo V6)

Wishful thinking because of inflation.

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2.4, 2.6, 2.8, 3.0, 3.5, 3.7 seems like a nice progression
Do the same, but for curb weight.
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The Z can't move up market. That's what lead to the eventual demise of the Z32. It was exceeding $40k, which was pricey for its time. The Z is supposed to be the budget sports car for the masses. All these new cars nowadays are full of electronic gizmos, and it seems like the unfortunate result of what the market wants nowadays beyond cup holders.

I miss seeing budget pocket rockets in the $15k range. How about a RWD economical pocket rocket with a 1.6L turbo (option)? It serves as an economical starting point for enthusiasts, and is economical for those who want a fun fuel sipping car with a bit of turbo grunt.

If the Z remains in the upper $28k to sub $30k range, it must face stiff competition with the pony cars. Even if it is in a different class, it is already being subjected to such comparos. Look at owners who dropped the Z in favor of Mustangs (no offense, but that's just how it is).

So here's what I think Nissan needs to cover their bases for performance, value, and fuel economy:
Sub $15k FWD: Sentra SE-R (standard 1.6L turbo)
Sub $20k RWD: Silvia (standard 1.6-2.4L turbo)
Sub $30k RWD: Z (3.5-3.8L NA V6 or maybe 2.5-3.0L turbo V6)

Wishful thinking because of inflation.


Do the same, but for curb weight.
50k after inflation to today pushes that alot higher. Plus production for that Z was alot more expensive due to all the (then high tech) stuff they put in it that other cars didnt have. Sharing components for today's z brings production cost down and it can remain profitable.

The Z will most probably end up starting at 40k and go to 50k.

assuming the lower car will go around 25-30k range
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The Z can't move up market. That's what lead to the eventual demise of the Z32. It was exceeding $40k, which was pricey for its time. The Z is supposed to be the budget sports car for the masses. All these new cars nowadays are full of electronic gizmos, and it seems like the unfortunate result of what the market wants nowadays beyond cup holders.

I miss seeing budget pocket rockets in the $15k range. How about a RWD economical pocket rocket with a 1.6L turbo (option)? It serves as an economical starting point for enthusiasts, and is economical for those who want a fun fuel sipping car with a bit of turbo grunt.

If the Z remains in the upper $28k to sub $30k range, it must face stiff competition with the pony cars. Even if it is in a different class, it is already being subjected to such comparos. Look at owners who dropped the Z in favor of Mustangs (no offense, but that's just how it is).

So here's what I think Nissan needs to cover their bases for performance, value, and fuel economy:
Sub $22k FWD: Sentra SE-R (standard 1.6L turbo)
Sub $27k RWD: Silvia (standard 1.6-2.4L turbo)
Sub $34k RWD: Z (3.5-3.8L NA V6 or maybe 2.5-3.0L turbo V6)


Wishful thinking because of inflation.


Do the same, but for curb weight.
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We gotta be realistic when looking at the current market.
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We gotta be realistic when looking at the current market.
I guess it's only because I'm a new homeowner now and the last thing on my mind is buying a new car costing over $30k. I feel old... been going out talking about how things used to be several years ago haha.
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