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shaun66 01-17-2013 09:56 PM

If the Z moves up market to be more competitive with mustang, camaro, etc ill be happy!

daisuke149 01-17-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by shaun66 (Post 2117349)
If the Z moves up market to be more competitive with mustang, camaro, etc ill be happy!

.....

the mustang GT and camaro v8 are cheaper than the Z...

for the price of a NISMo you can get a boss 302...

when the z moves up market from where it is now, it wont be in the same price bracket as those cars.

luigi90210 01-17-2013 11:24 PM

i hope its going to be an s16 silvia, anything other then RWD, the car will be DOA(dead on arrival)

FL 4Motion 01-17-2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 2117364)
.....

the mustang GT and camaro v8 are cheaper than the Z...

for the price of a NISMo you can get a boss 302...

when the z moves up market from where it is now, it wont be in the same price bracket as those cars.

new 'vette competitor??? hmmm, that'd be awesome.

Z vs vette (55 to 65K)

GTR vs Z06/ZR1 (95 to 120K)

yup, I give that a :tup:

Z_ealot 01-17-2013 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 2117540)
new 'vette competitor??? hmmm, that'd be awesome.

Z vs vette (55 to 65K)

GTR vs Z06/ZR1 (95 to 120K)

yup, I give that a :tup:

if the Z moves up to that price bracket i honestly expect the next Z to be as good or better than a porsche in terms of interior/exterior quality, power and handling although i have to admit it does that pretty well even now lol

FL 4Motion 01-17-2013 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 2117566)
if the Z moves up to that price bracket i honestly expect the next Z to be as good or better than a porsche in terms of interior/exterior quality, power and handling

I agree, it def would need to have materials/build quality equal to say the '09-'11 GTR wiht great styling to match that price point. And of course some balls in the performance dept and track worthy out of the box. They can totally do it if they really want to. If this juke based sports coupe does come out, there's no reason not to. Also, they could have some extra trim levels to have a nice price point spread from base Z (40K) all the way up to nismo RC trim (55-58K).

Ackrite 01-18-2013 12:18 AM

Mark my words: Nismo Juke and/or Nismo Sentra.

NissanGuy23 01-18-2013 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2116834)
Being honest. Z news for next gen just sounds disappointingly overpriced and shytty.

I might go back to american cars. It's been 20 years since I had my Buick GN. I bought a 93 FD and never looked back. The mustang and camaro made me start paying attention. The camaro SS1LE/ZL1 got me thinking, this new corvette (though not in love with looks) got me excited.

Nissan talking about FWD's and hybrids is makin my D*ick limp.:mad:


JDM is going backwards. Slow JDM cars were cool in the 80's when a CRX was $11,000 and a camaro Z28 was $22,750 and the corvette wa $27,000. You can get a supra turbo for the $21,000 and $3,500 made it faster than most muscle cars in those days. Times have changed and JDM going backwards to low 200hp cars for $30,000 when there's a $33,000 domestic cars on a lot with 400 hp. It's ludacris, This going to make me keep my money domestic.

And if someone tells me power doesn't matter? I will go to your house and throw up in your car!!!! :roflpuke2:

Can't tell if serious...

tjlazer 01-18-2013 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kmkraft12 (Post 2117141)
Was there a 3.7 before the 370, or g37. Was there a 3.5 before the 350, or g35.
Was there a 3.8 before the GTR. All engines start somewhere and nissan has been slowly going up in displacement since the start. Why would they go away from a very successful sports car line up to switch to something new before testing it out.

Bad economy and record high gas prices?

luigi90210 01-18-2013 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 2117636)
Bad economy and record high gas prices?

you dont buy a sports car and expect good gas mileage.....

if you want that buy a hyundai genesis, hyundai says it gets close to 32 highway or something like that

ironhide 01-18-2013 02:07 AM

If nissan builds this car cvt/ fwd epic fail:shakes head:

Z_ealot 01-18-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kmkraft12 (Post 2117745)
Won't happen. Why make a GTR competitor.

That's like asking GM why would they make the camaro when they have the corvette

DIGItonium 01-18-2013 12:00 PM

The Z can't move up market. That's what lead to the eventual demise of the Z32. It was exceeding $40k, which was pricey for its time. The Z is supposed to be the budget sports car for the masses. All these new cars nowadays are full of electronic gizmos, and it seems like the unfortunate result of what the market wants nowadays beyond cup holders.

I miss seeing budget pocket rockets in the $15k range. How about a RWD economical pocket rocket with a 1.6L turbo (option)? It serves as an economical starting point for enthusiasts, and is economical for those who want a fun fuel sipping car with a bit of turbo grunt.

If the Z remains in the upper $28k to sub $30k range, it must face stiff competition with the pony cars. Even if it is in a different class, it is already being subjected to such comparos. Look at owners who dropped the Z in favor of Mustangs (no offense, but that's just how it is).

So here's what I think Nissan needs to cover their bases for performance, value, and fuel economy:
Sub $15k FWD: Sentra SE-R (standard 1.6L turbo)
Sub $20k RWD: Silvia (standard 1.6-2.4L turbo)
Sub $30k RWD: Z (3.5-3.8L NA V6 or maybe 2.5-3.0L turbo V6)

Wishful thinking because of inflation.

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Originally Posted by grant (Post 2117174)
2.4, 2.6, 2.8, 3.0, 3.5, 3.7 seems like a nice progression

Do the same, but for curb weight.

daisuke149 01-18-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 2118348)
The Z can't move up market. That's what lead to the eventual demise of the Z32. It was exceeding $40k, which was pricey for its time. The Z is supposed to be the budget sports car for the masses. All these new cars nowadays are full of electronic gizmos, and it seems like the unfortunate result of what the market wants nowadays beyond cup holders.

I miss seeing budget pocket rockets in the $15k range. How about a RWD economical pocket rocket with a 1.6L turbo (option)? It serves as an economical starting point for enthusiasts, and is economical for those who want a fun fuel sipping car with a bit of turbo grunt.

If the Z remains in the upper $28k to sub $30k range, it must face stiff competition with the pony cars. Even if it is in a different class, it is already being subjected to such comparos. Look at owners who dropped the Z in favor of Mustangs (no offense, but that's just how it is).

So here's what I think Nissan needs to cover their bases for performance, value, and fuel economy:
Sub $15k FWD: Sentra SE-R (standard 1.6L turbo)
Sub $20k RWD: Silvia (standard 1.6-2.4L turbo)
Sub $30k RWD: Z (3.5-3.8L NA V6 or maybe 2.5-3.0L turbo V6)

Wishful thinking because of inflation.


Do the same, but for curb weight.

50k after inflation to today pushes that alot higher. Plus production for that Z was alot more expensive due to all the (then high tech) stuff they put in it that other cars didnt have. Sharing components for today's z brings production cost down and it can remain profitable.

The Z will most probably end up starting at 40k and go to 50k.

assuming the lower car will go around 25-30k range

Vertigo 01-18-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by R0bDC (Post 2116343)
How about a Mini GTR! That be awesome

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...70Z_com/p2.jpg


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