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Thorazine_IM 01-21-2013 03:13 AM

Just bring back the silvia with a more aggressive body and everyones gonna stop tripping about this FWD crap.

Nailzs 01-21-2013 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 2121773)
lighter cars aren't a bad thing.

Unless they're glued together.

The Tata Nano

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...en_Museums.JPG

2 cylinder, 33 horsepower engine that goes up to 65 mph max
1 windshield wiper
4 wheels
An enclosed cabin
Seats and seat belts
All the widgets that make a car run
Doors
A few glued on parts – yes ‘glued’, as some of the body is glued, not welded on.

Vertigo 01-21-2013 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nailzs (Post 2122026)
Unless they're glued together.

The Tata Nano

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...en_Museums.JPG

2 cylinder, 33 horsepower engine that goes up to 65 mph max
1 windshield wiper
4 wheels
An enclosed cabin
Seats and seat belts
All the widgets that make a car run
Doors
A few glued on parts – yes ‘glued’, as some of the body is glued, not welded on.


If I could unsee that,I would :icon14:

Cmike2780 01-21-2013 10:18 AM

As cool as a mini-Z, s15 successor or whatever would be cool to see, it's going to have to be better than the BRZ/FR-S in every way to be successful. It's going to have a few other competitors out there including a all new MX-5 in the works. I wouldn't be surprised if Nissan ditched the engine altogether and make this an all-electric.

Rui Z 01-21-2013 01:01 PM

Considering the fact that the Nano costs under $2,000, some glued on pieces is completely acceptable. A car like that is only meant to serve one purpose. Get me from point A to point B without blowing up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nailzs (Post 2122026)
Unless they're glued together.

The Tata Nano

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...en_Museums.JPG

2 cylinder, 33 horsepower engine that goes up to 65 mph max
1 windshield wiper
4 wheels
An enclosed cabin
Seats and seat belts
All the widgets that make a car run
Doors
A few glued on parts – yes ‘glued’, as some of the body is glued, not welded on.


Cmike2780 01-21-2013 01:11 PM

The 458 Italia has some glued parts. It has nothing to do with build quality...although it did cause some fires, lol. Believe it or not, a glued part can be just as strong, if not stronger than a weld. They're using engineered glue that's nothing close to the stuff you use for arts and crafts.

AlphaSnacks 01-21-2013 01:18 PM

Yeah, there are glues out there that can withstand 5000lbs of force.

And those are glues you can by at a Home Depot. Hahaha

Rui Z 01-21-2013 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 2120485)
a 240hp z would be piss *** boring.

and a 150hp sports car? It would suck.

the smaller sports car needs 250hp + and the z needs to hit 400 or more.

The future is lighter weight, better aerodynamics, less internal friction/energy loss for maximum efficiency. Like Mike said, a 240hp, 2400lbs Z would be more fun than a 330hp, 3300lbs Z, all other things being equal. I don't think 2400lbs on a 240hp car would be possible in the next few years unless it's crazy expensive, but I think 2800 lbs would be doable. That's like an S2000 hp and weight, but include more torque.

scruffydog 01-21-2013 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 2122605)
The future is lighter weight, better aerodynamics, less internal friction/energy loss for maximum efficiency. Like Mike said, a 240hp, 2400lbs Z would be more fun than a 330hp, 3300lbs Z, all other things being equal. I don't think 2400lbs on a 240hp car would be possible in the next few years unless it's crazy expensive, but I think 2800 lbs would be doable. That's like an S2000 hp and weight, but include more torque.

I agree, I think a 240hp in 2400lb car would be more fun than 330hp with 3300lb.

I hope the new Z would be just as Nimble, if not more than the current 370z. I'm all about efficiency. Nissan would be smart to tap into the S2000, BRZ/FR-S, Miata market. I'm excited to see what they're gonna do - hopefully they'll keep it a 2 seater. I love the side profile of a fastback coupe.

Nailzs 01-21-2013 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2122573)
Believe it or not, a glued part can be just as strong, if not stronger than a weld.

:wtf2:

Cmike2780 01-21-2013 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nailzs (Post 2123331)
:wtf2:

It's true. When you weld something, you stress the metal. Also, depending on the weld, a comparable assembly with some sort of high strength adhesive will have a greater contact area...thus a higher shear strength. A spot weld or bead that doesn't penetrate completely for example, has less contact areas. Auto manufacturers like Lamborghini, Ferrari, Aston..etc..etc...have been using adhesives instead of welding for years in some areas where it's just impossible to weld. Areas where CF and steel/aluminum meet for example, where a bolted connection would be weaker and add weight.

What do you think holds carbon fiber components together. CF is just a piece of fabric without the epoxy (or adhesive) that keeps it stiff. It's not a difficult concept to wrap your head around. NASA uses high strength adhesives for god's sake. With all that though, they have limitations and are susceptible to extreme temperature changes.

Mike 01-21-2013 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 2122560)
Considering the fact that the Nano costs under $2,000, some glued on pieces is completely acceptable. A car like that is only meant to serve one purpose. Get me from point A to point B without blowing up.

Correct, the purpose of that car is to replace this
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-N7OIS-cUgU...ycle-herat.jpg


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