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Trips 01-05-2013 02:34 PM

ATTENTION!! 2009-2010 owners with steering lock/wont start issues
 
FOR PRESENT AND NEW OWNERS OF 2009 - 2010

PLEASE BE ADVISE THAT THERE IS A POTENTIAL ONGOING ISSUE WITH THE STEERING LOCK WHICH WILL RESULT

IN A FAILURE OF THE Z FROM STARTING.

PLEASE POST YOUR QUESTIONS OR PROBLEM HERE AS THIS WILL SERVE AS THE MAIN THREAD FOR THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.



BELOW ARE LINKS TO PREVENTING IT FROM HAPPENING AS WELL AS FIXING IT IN THE EVENT IT DOES HAPPEN.


Kenchan's DIY: http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...rly-2010s.html


Alternatives

Baer383's http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...lved-real.html

AUtigers370z's DIY: http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...ix-w-pics.html

SouthArk370's http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...heel-lock.html




FOR THOSE THAT WERE AFFECTED WITH THE STEERING LOCK FAILURE!!

PLEASE POST YOUR CAR INFO HERE AND ONLY THAT INFO, ANYTHING ELSE WILL BE REMOVED



Sticky***** Steering Lock Failure Database ***** Sticky


ATTENTION LATEST UPDATE!!!!
NISSAN HAS PUT OUT A VOLUNTARY SERVICE CAMPAIGN
TO HAVE THE STEERING LOCKS REPLACED
FOR ALL WHO HAVE BEEN AFFECTED AS WELL AS TO BE AFFECTED


Voluntary Service Campaign Steering Lock Fix

daisuke149 01-05-2013 03:40 PM

Thanks man for making this a sticky. Seems the rate at which people are experiencing this is going up.!

Jasonle 01-05-2013 03:43 PM

thank you for this!

bdavis89 01-05-2013 04:01 PM

So RevD and RevE are problem free? Anyone know when they switched? I've got a June 2010 build so I think I'm good but I guess I'll check just in case...

Jasonle 01-05-2013 04:09 PM

so far problem free for rev d but it could go out...not sure? haven't heard of any Ds and Es going out yet?

Parkerman 01-06-2013 12:34 PM

This may also be handy for this thread.

http://www.the370z.com/2091140-post26.html

DLSTR 01-06-2013 12:57 PM

One member here with a 2011 Z had the failure. Dont wait - Use the fixes avail to get this thing isolated. The system was deleted in late 2011 from the car so why would you EVEN risk it. Its a useless system.

DEpointfive0 01-06-2013 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 2096874)
One member here with a 2011 Z had the failure. Dont wait - Use the fixes avail to get this thing isolated. The system was deleted in late 2011 from the car so why would you EVEN risk it. Its a useless system.

It was taken off newer cars?


So you can freely rotate the wheel when the car is off?

DLSTR 01-06-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2096877)
It was taken off newer cars?


So you can freely rotate the wheel when the car is off?

FiveO - Fromm Kenchan's DIY:

'Nissan stopped using these locks on the 2012 Z's entirely, confirmed by a member
who looked on her car for us... which is not very convincing for those of us stuck with
the 'old' system. another member confirmed he could turn the steering L/R by hand
pushing on the tires while the front end is off the ground, car turned off....so there is
no substitute mechanism on the 3/2011 build to present.'

SouthArk370Z 01-06-2013 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jasonle (Post 2095818)
so far problem free for rev d but it could go out...not sure? haven't heard of any Ds and Es going out yet?

At least one user, Huan'z, has reported a rev D failure. Not exactly a trend, but, given the history of SLUs, cause for concern.

DLSTR 01-06-2013 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2096901)
At least one user, Huan'z, has reported a rev D failure. Not exactly a trend, but, given the history of SLUs, cause for concern.

Rev A-D with failures LOL! They are 100% failing(not all in all Rev's). Trend enough :)

Jasonle 01-06-2013 01:27 PM

I thought it was a mistake? that they DID replaced huanz with revision "d" and not E?

SouthArk370Z 01-06-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jasonle (Post 2096921)
I thought it was a mistake? that they DID replaced huanz with revision "d" and not E?

You're right. A few comments down he shows a pic of a Rev D, saying it is the new one. Thanks for catching that.

asdfsammich 01-06-2013 03:35 PM

NISSAN fixed the design. The fix wasn't to keep revising the lock. The fix was to delete the lock entirely (on later model Z's).

It's likely they had trend data on all revisions, showing a high defect rate due to an inherent flaw.

The enthusiast community fixed the design too (on earlier model Z's). The fix is to virtually delete the lock by pulling the fuse, harness, cutting the wire etc.

Stuff like this makes me really like that we got such a kick arse forum!

I'm one of guys that got saved from getting stranded. For me, it was late at night, in the rain, in the corner of a deserted airport parking lot, having just gotten off a 6+ hour fight. My SL failed! I kicked the SL and got my car to start. Drove home, left car on, pulled up the fuse thread, then pulled the fuse. Took a few minutes. Saved me tons of cash and the hassle of leaving my car with the dealer.





Tapatalk & such etc

DEpointfive0 01-06-2013 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdfsammich (Post 2097082)
Stuff like this makes me really like that we got such a kick arse forum!

I'm one of guys that got saved from getting stranded. For me, it was late at night, in the rain, in the corner of a deserted airport parking lot, having just gotten off a 6+ hour fight. My SL failed! I kicked the SL and got my car to start. Drove home, left car on, pulled up the fuse thread, then pulled the fuse. Took a few minutes. Saved me tons of cash and the hassle of leaving my car with the dealer.



SUCH A KICK ARSE FORUM!!! Agreed!!!


And you literally kicked the bitch into submission??? Lol

Jasonle 01-06-2013 04:17 PM

I agree. I love this forum! very helpful.

asdfsammich 01-06-2013 04:21 PM

Lols. Yep. Began by tapping it gently with my hand. Wouldn't unlock. Then proceeded to really bang it and did that for a few minutes. Still wouldn't unlock.

So I call a flatbed. While waiting I'm like fsck it. I slide the seat all the way back and recline it. I kinda lay back. So there I am, somewhat laying back, but stretched out holding down the clutch, and pushing the start button, and I just start kicking the s*it out it. Then it hear it unlock!!

I'm like fsck yeh!! Even though the car was cold I was happy as hell that I rev'd it pretty good a few times to hear my car come back from the dead with that sweet exhaust growl!


Tapatalk & such etc

Huan'z 01-07-2013 08:17 AM

Sorry for the mistaken on the other thread. They replaced mine with the revision "D" so far no problem. I will report right away when the rev "D" failed again. But I believe the "rev D" is the most stable one. If u guy want a picture. I don't mind to take another picture and upload it here after work.

Huan'z 01-07-2013 08:24 AM

And also what I heard from my dealer. My steering lock failed then short the body control module. So they need to replace my body control module too. They said its really odd what happened to my car. They thats fine they fixed it anyway.

SouthArk370Z 01-07-2013 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huan'z (Post 2097961)
Sorry for the mistaken on the other thread. They replaced mine with the revision "D" so far no problem. I will report right away when the rev "D" failed again. But I believe the "rev D" is the most stable one. If u guy want a picture. I don't mind to take another picture and upload it here after work.

My fault. I should have looked a little deeper. The pics you posted previously are a few comments below your post that I linked to.

Jasonle 01-07-2013 09:20 AM

We're all try to help each other. No body fault here. threads like these..I'm glad I'm a member on here. without this forum id be lost lol

Huan'z 01-07-2013 01:02 PM

Yeah this forum really helps me from a-z. Specially all the mods:)

Bondfire 01-07-2013 04:57 PM

Has anyone considered looking into a class action suit? Not sure if you can even do that for cars or not. All I know is that my car is stuck and the dealer says it's gonna cost about $1100 to get this taken care of.

I'll start doing some research on how class action suits work.

edub370 01-07-2013 05:39 PM

i think a poll should be in order. then sent to nissan.

simply "who has had a steering lock failure" then include this with a formal letter to nissan.

Parkerman 01-07-2013 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondfire (Post 2098948)
Has anyone considered looking into a class action suit? Not sure if you can even do that for cars or not. All I know is that my car is stuck and the dealer says it's gonna cost about $1100 to get this taken care of.

I'll start doing some research on how class action suits work.


If you're handy you can fix it yourself, and by fix I mean make sure it never causes a problem again.

No way I would let the dealer gig me for $1100 knowing it could be fixed at home for like.. $15. [excluding the cost of towing it back home]

SouthArk370Z 01-07-2013 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2098991)
i think a poll should be in order. then sent to nissan.
simply "who has had a steering lock failure" then include this with a formal letter to nissan.

http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...k-failure.html

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...heel-lock.html

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Bondfire 01-07-2013 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parkerman (Post 2098995)
If you're handy you can fix it yourself, and by fix I mean make sure it never causes a problem again.

No way I would let the dealer gig me for $1100 knowing it could be fixed at home for like.. $15. [excluding the cost of towing it back home]

Problem is, it's already stuck. And so far I've only seen ways that might work to get it started again (tapping, etc). So if those options don't work, I might have to go to the dealer. If I did miss something though, feel free to point it out. I've had a fever for a few days, my car is actually stuck at the clinic where I was for a Dr. appt.

daisuke149 01-07-2013 08:00 PM

if you guys are serious.

start a thread, asking people who have had the issue to post things like year of car, when it failed, where etc details. And try to get triples on board or someone to delete anything posted outside that. Only way your really going to get a good idea of just how many have failed and across what year cars and situations.

SouthArk370Z 01-07-2013 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondfire (Post 2099149)
Problem is, it's already stuck. And so far I've only seen ways that might work to get it started again (tapping, etc). So if those options don't work, I might have to go to the dealer. If I did miss something though, feel free to point it out. I've had a fever for a few days, my car is actually stuck at the clinic where I was for a Dr. appt.

The only three methods I know of (none 100% successful) are:
* Percussive. Some have reported success with a good bump, others have had to beat the feces out of it.
* Manual Reset. Remove the SLU and manually push the lock pin into the fully retracted position.
* Rebuild. Remove and disassemble the SLU. Verify switch operation and reassemble so the the locking pin is fully retracted and making the switches.

If you have tried all those without success, then you will have to buy a new SLU. You can save $$$ by replacing it yourself - it's an easy job if you have the right pliers.

Trips 01-07-2013 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 2099169)
if you guys are serious.

start a thread, asking people who have had the issue to post things like year of car, when it failed, where etc details. And try to get triples on board or someone to delete anything posted outside that. Only way your really going to get a good idea of just how many have failed and across what year cars and situations.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I updated the Op with a thread that was created to track members issues.

I would like everyone and only those with an issue to post their info.

Anything else will be removed.

DEpointfive0 01-07-2013 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 2099205)
Thanks for the suggestion.

I updated the Op with a thread that was created to track members issues.

I would like everyone and only those with an issue to post their info.

Anything else will be removed.

Can we make another stickied thread in the Welcome section of the forum that brings people to this thread? Or vice versa?

It's the new people that are buying used that need to know what's up


I'm trying to post as much as I can on every "new forum member" 's post

daisuke149 01-07-2013 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 2099205)
Thanks for the suggestion.

I updated the Op with a thread that was created to track members issues.

I would like everyone and only those with an issue to post their info.

Anything else will be removed.

No, thank you bud. its gonna be a slight pain to maintain that rhead im sure :p

Also, if a class action lawsuit does go thru.. people better do a lil donation to keep this site going!! the solutions, the information is all on here!

SouthArk370Z 01-07-2013 08:44 PM

I have a list of users that have reported SLU failure - 112 at last count. It is 3-4 weeks behind, but should give you a good start. You can find a link to the list at http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...heel-lock.html

CC QUIK 01-08-2013 11:57 PM

not to go off topic, to SouthArk370Z, I had the opportunity to have dinner
with George Best back in the early 80's when he was playing in San Jose, CA.
Great guy and yes, he was with a knockout bird.

joemikemills 01-10-2013 07:50 PM

steering wheel lock fixed for free
 
I had the dreaded steering wheel lock issue about 10 days ago. Key warning light, car wouldn't start, etc. I took my 2009 w/sport pkg. to Collins Nissan in Louisville and the lock was replaced for free; however, they never mentioned recall. Apparently the part runs about $1000. I was very grateful since I was about 5k miles beyond warranty.

Bondfire 01-11-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joemikemills (Post 2104225)
I had the dreaded steering wheel lock issue about 10 days ago. Key warning light, car wouldn't start, etc. I took my 2009 w/sport pkg. to Collins Nissan in Louisville and the lock was replaced for free; however, they never mentioned recall. Apparently the part runs about $1000. I was very grateful since I was about 5k miles beyond warranty.

Oh wow, that's impressive. Wouldn't you have been over the 3yr time frame regardless of mileage? I called my local dealer and they didn't offer to do crap other than tell me what was wrong (which I already knew from here).

blueranger 01-12-2013 07:42 PM

Would you agree that if you are still under warranty you should not pull the fuse, so hopefully the failure happens under warranty and then you would get the most recent version installed?

Your thoughts?

Bucketlist2012 01-13-2013 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueranger (Post 2107868)
Would you agree that if you are still under warranty you should not pull the fuse, so hopefully the failure happens under warranty and then you would get the most recent version installed?

Your thoughts?

I have the same question. I have an extended warranty and if it fails will I get the update under warranty ?

Masa 01-13-2013 07:37 AM

I have a 2011 Z w/ the Rev. D lock still under warranty but I ended up pulling the fuse yesterday.

It literally takes 10 minutes, I'd rather have peace of mind knowing I won't be randomly stranded somewhere and have to deal with getting the car towed and worked on at the dealer. Even if they foot the bill, they can't reimburse the time I wasted on such a simple issue if it were to happen.

DLSTR 01-13-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucketlist2012 (Post 2108664)
I have the same question. I have an extended warranty and if it fails will I get the update under warranty ?

Bucket and Blue. Order the harness or pull the fuse. The system was deleted starting in late 2011 and is not on the 2012 or 2013. Nissan see's the system as useless by this action. They have done something about it by deleting it en-mass from the car. Do the same for yours.
Why risk a failure(as every Rev has failed thus far) if Nissan doesnt think otherwise and got rid of it for good. Do the same and enjoy the ride! :)


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