370Z to EVO X
 

going this saturday to try in trade the z for an evo.

have a question about trade ins. my dad cosigned me the car. but the car title is under my name. do i need him to be there for the trade in to work. how about if we was joint would i still need him?

Sorry to see you go, not too sure on a trade in, if it's in Your name, and he was only a co-financier, I don't believe he will need to be there.


Why the trade if you mind saying?

Didn't you have another post about the same thing a couple weeks ago ... :gtfo2:

If you mean this thread: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ding-370z.html

The title clearly shows the differences... :ugh2:

having trouble in the snow/ice. roads been covered with ice for the past 2-3 weeks. having trouble driving in this type of condition. NO TRACTION what so ever.

i failed for getting a Z as my dd in ohio.

Are you driving on the Stock tires, which are Summer tires?

That will be why. If you get a set of winter wheels/tires, you'll see a drastic improvement in winter traction... Cheaper than going through selling/trading your car.

On most trade-in's your going to lose money. Think about snow tires? The EVO is a downgrade I would say.

Different title same post :shakes head:

AWD
Factory Turbo
Seats 4 and has a trunk

It does have some perks over the Z, so "downgrade" I think would be a bit harsh? I mean looks are subjective so to each unto their own...? :ugh:

And your first post in that thread wasn't exactly positive either... :ugh2:

yea its stock tires.

was thinking about getting winter tires(blizzaks?). didnt want to waste money on it if it didnt work. just not confident driving rwd in snow/ice

I don't think he would have to be there. If he only co-signed on the loan, I think you are ok. If his credit wasa big determining factor though, they might want him there for this

Shame to see you go, I'll chime in and say try some winter tires but I don't drive my Z in the winter.

I wouldn't call going to the EVO X a downgrade, except for the interior which is cheap...it definitely has its upsides but I'd sooner be driving a Z

Take a read through here before you decide, might be worth trying...

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...cs-ak370z.html

:tiphat: I have a winter wheel set showing up this week myself.

He's wantin' an EVO X over the Z ...

How positive ya want me to be to that :stirthepot:

Besides, he got PLENTY of help in his previous thread :)

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one was about thinking about trading in the z for and evo and asking about how trade in works.

this is about do i need my dad there since he was the cosigner for the z.

why you so mad about me getting an evox? lmfao.

I live in a far colder climate, can completely understand the need to switch. I just don't like putting any decently nice car through winters (EVO or Z) so I drive an old forester during the cold months.

Should be fun modding the **** outta that evo tho, hopefully you don't blow the engine. Seems to be the fate for most modded turbo 4bangers.

If everyone made a new thread every time there was a slight shift in focus on the conversation we'd have a ton of garbage threads... oh wait. :p I mean honestly, a shift from "thinking about trading" to "officially trading"?

As for your question, I don't think you'd need him to be there but the easiest way to find out is to just call up a dealership and ask. Sometimes it's easier just to get the answer from the source instead of asking a bunch of people who don't actually work at a dealership and aren't in the same locale as you. Someone from a different region may not need a cosigner to be there and then when you show up you're SOL. So far as I know these aren't federal regulations so state by state laws are going to be different.

didnt want them to know that im trading in a car yet. trying to lower the price of the evo even more before i tell them im trading in a car. :D

So don't tell them who you are or what car you drive? Just ask them if you need to have your faja with you if he cosigned your lease/loan for the car but the title is under your name.... It's really not difficult.

Infact, you don't even need to call the dealership you're going to trade at. Hell call one from another county. I mean there are so many options here I don't understand what the problem is.

Get a Power of Attorney for your dad specifically for the car. Then, you can sign his name when you decide to sell. Otherwise, any dealer/lender (and, if he's on the title - the state) will require his signature to release the lien for payoff (and the title transfer if his name is on it).

Edit for clarification:
If a company (dealer or lender) is going to pay off your loan, and you and your father are both on the loan, they will require both his and your signature to sign what's called a 10-day Per Diem Payoff Letter (generally - generic term). It's a document that states how much your lending company will accept to clear the amount owed on the loan.

From the payoff, it takes an average company (BB&T, Wells-F, etc) 10-15 business days to clear the payment - even if done via wire transfer or cashier's check. At that point, the release of title' is performed. If buying from a dealer, at this point, they will take your keys, have you sign a Bill of Sale, and you're free of the car. If buying from an individual, and they don't have a title in hand, you could wait another 20-30 days for the release and title transfer in the following info before you have a title in your hands).

Depending on your state, the title can be held by your bank or by the state. If the release of title is done by the state, then there are two options, written or electronic releases. The release itself once received only takes a day or two, it's the method (elect or paper) that will add more days to the process. Depending on the buying company, they may have the title mailed to you or themselves from the DMV as their check will clear the old loan, not a check from you.

If your father's name is also on the title, he will need to sign it with you (at the bottom) to sell the vehicle.

So, all in all, getting your dad to sign a PoA may cost $45-$125 for the document fees, or the new lender may have you both sign them for the company to forge your names, but at some point, both you and your dad are legally bound to the loan. If his name is on the title, then he is also legally bound to the state registration for the vehicle. The PoA will allow you to sign as him for release of title, loan payoff, and (if applicable) the title transfer.

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Now trade that Z for a X :stirthepot:

That is the best method of buying from a dealer, always talk trade-in last.

That said, I think you still owe too much on the Z to trade it for that evoX, but that's just my opinion and in the end you will do what you want either way. I would just slap winter rims/tires on the Z and be good to go. Your winters aren't as bad as ours, and I plan on picking up a Z as a DD, with some good winter rims/tires for the winter months.

Good luck with whatever choice you make, hope it works out for you.

Dayum enjoy that boy racer look, I love all wheel drive turbo but that car is so ugly

2005 sti for life!

lmao, dumbest thing i ever heard. "enjoy the boy racer look" as if you ment that as an insult but then you say 05 sti for life.....wow :inoutroflpuke:

cause 05 sti doesnt have that racer look:confused:

I can't believe you tried to drive in snow with the stock summer performance tires lol then you were like "the handling on this Z sucks in the winter! I'm getting an Evo!" :icon17:

I almost bought an STi myself.. but the Z is SO much greater, sexually.

:worship:

Get a Infiniti G37x. ;)

I dunno about 2005 but the 2007 limited definitely looks a little more "mature".

http://www.subarucolors.info/wp-cont...-Limited-1.jpg

http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/su...y-as_1_815.jpg

The "boy racer" comment is likely just jealously over all that turbo powa.

meh

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Sure the Sedan is more mature (well not really the front of it with the big *** hood scoop) But it is in no way any less of a boy racer then a Evo. Its the same class. The STi is just the child of the Rallycross world that was given up for adoption.

http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p...9/IMG_1708.jpg

To me this isnt really a boy racer look. Looks pretty much just like a normal mature lancer. Now the old evo's such as the 8's and 9's, yea by all means, boy racer.

They only come in 4-door variants, no quad exhaust or gigantic spoiler. As far as STI's are concerned it certainly looks a little more reserved to me. Relax, everyone still appreciates your evo (color matched front grill also helps tone things down).

TBH like most things it doesn't really have anything to do with the cars themselves, it's more the people who choose to drive them.

I live in California LA and I'm thinking about doing this trade also. Mainly because of the rear seats and the fact that I can make power a lot easier and cheaper.

2005 sti is boy racer for sure, I'm saying that was my favorite looking boy racer.

Evos look Terrible in my opinion. One of the worst looking cars on the road. I can sacrifice some performance to not be seen in an garbage like that

the evo is a good car, doesnt matter what people say.

So is the STI.

The only problem with the evo is that mitsubishi sucks. Thats it.

just get an STI

honestly they are more reliable then the EVO is, once something goes with Mitsubishi engines, everything starts going(thats what im experiencing with my turbo eclipse which has the same engine as the evo 8/9)

plus with an STI, you can but one of the Cobb Accessport tuners and get your car faster then it would cost you to tune an EVO(plus there is only 1 Mitsubishi tuner in all of california, road race engineering)

I think that'll happen when you start messing around with either engine. I have many friends who have had to rebuild their STI engines. Pay to play I guess? :ugh2:

EvoX GSR BB FP Red - YouTube :happydance: