Nitrogen in tires, where to fill up?

TreeSemdyZee · 12-10-2012, 10:59 PM

Nitrogen is not a scam. First year chemistry students can tell you that. Pure nitrogen does not fluctuate as much in presure compared to straight "air". It also doesn't contain the moisture of air, thereby reducing the chance for corrosion of the TPMS, etc.
I have personally tested the differences in pressure fluctuation and it is actually quite drastic.
Pure nitrogen also leaks much slower than air. Saying that air is 78% nitrogen is a bogus argument. It's 22% other components. It's those components that are the problem. That's like saying water is part Oxygen, so go ahead and breathe it.

raymondo510 · 12-10-2012, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

Nitrogen is not a scam. First year chemistry students can tell you that. Pure nitrogen does not fluctuate as much in presure compared to straight "air". It also doesn't contain the moisture of air, thereby reducing the chance for corrosion of the TPMS, etc.
I have personally tested the differences in pressure fluctuation and it is actually quite drastic.
Pure nitrogen also leaks much slower than air. Saying that air is 78% nitrogen is a bogus argument. It's 22% other components. It's those components that are the problem. That's like saying water is part Oxygen, so go ahead and breathe it.

chrischhorn · 12-11-2012, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

Nitrogen is not a scam. First year chemistry students can tell you that. Pure nitrogen does not fluctuate as much in presure compared to straight "air". It also doesn't contain the moisture of air, thereby reducing the chance for corrosion of the TPMS, etc.
I have personally tested the differences in pressure fluctuation and it is actually quite drastic.
Pure nitrogen also leaks much slower than air. Saying that air is 78% nitrogen is a bogus argument. It's 22% other components. It's those components that are the problem. That's like saying water is part Oxygen, so go ahead and breathe it.

i agree, its not a scam bh any means but its nothing people should be charging for.there are people who refuse to out anything but nitrogen and its a little extreme. if yiu have access to it, then yes, its worth putting in over normal compressed air but nothing to worry about paying for IMO. Most of its benefits like the pressure fluctuation isnt a big deal if you just check your pressure once a month like recommended....

DEpointfive0 · 12-11-2012, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KERMIT

Air is 78% nitrogen. Besides the fact it's a scam. There are no benefits to a road car.

Um... No, it's NOT a scam

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

Nitrogen is not a scam. First year chemistry students can tell you that. Pure nitrogen does not fluctuate as much in presure compared to straight "air". It also doesn't contain the moisture of air, thereby reducing the chance for corrosion of the TPMS, etc.
I have personally tested the differences in pressure fluctuation and it is actually quite drastic.
Pure nitrogen also leaks much slower than air. Saying that air is 78% nitrogen is a bogus argument. It's 22% other components. It's those components that are the problem. That's like saying water is part Oxygen, so go ahead and breathe it.

Thanks for the more correct info.

Honestly, the big issue with the argument of air is 78% nitrogen is BS, the biggest thing with PSI fluctuation is probably the water inside the compressed air...
Have you ever noticed water coming out when taking air out of your tires?

You COULD fill with a pump that has a drier (The chemical lab I work for has driers in the lines and after the compressor to remove water, and holy crap there is a LOT of water)

My advice, if there is a Costco near you, become chummy with the tire guys, they use nitrogen, either they'll top you off with Nitrogen for free or they might deflate all your tires on the rack and refill them with Nitrogen for free

chrischhorn · 12-11-2012, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

My advice, if there is a Costco near you, become chummy with the tire guys, they use nitrogen, either they'll top you off with Nitrogen for free or they might deflate all your tires on the rack and refill them with Nitrogen for free

SO THATS WHY YOU BECAME MY FRIEND!!!!

JK, besides at Costco we will top anyone off at the very least if you just pull up outside the tire bays and ask for an air check.

DEpointfive0 · 12-11-2012, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn

SO THATS WHY YOU BECAME MY FRIEND!!!!

JK, besides at Costco we will top anyone off at the very least if you just pull up outside the tire bays and ask for an air check.

LOL!!! I never came to YOUR Costco!!! But the other Costco did rack up my car, let all the air out then refilled them with Nitrogen

IDZRVIT · 12-11-2012, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

Nitrogen is not a scam. First year chemistry students can tell you that. Pure nitrogen does not fluctuate as much in presure compared to straight "air". It also doesn't contain the moisture of air, thereby reducing the chance for corrosion of the TPMS, etc.
I have personally tested the differences in pressure fluctuation and it is actually quite drastic.
Pure nitrogen also leaks much slower than air. Saying that air is 78% nitrogen is a bogus argument. It's 22% other components. It's those components that are the problem. That's like saying water is part Oxygen, so go ahead and breathe it.

Nitrogen has its place - in aircraft tires for example. For street tires though, no. The nitrogen hype is a money grab. I've used 78-80% nitrogen for over 40 years in my tires. Not once has a tire of mine disintegrated from plain old air. My vette has had its tires on since 1995. They are due to be replaced due to age - not because they are rotten with a lack of pure nitrogen. Save your money!

jcosta79 · 12-11-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

Nitrogen is not a scam. First year chemistry students can tell you that. Pure nitrogen does not fluctuate as much in presure compared to straight "air". It also doesn't contain the moisture of air, thereby reducing the chance for corrosion of the TPMS, etc.
I have personally tested the differences in pressure fluctuation and it is actually quite drastic.
Pure nitrogen also leaks much slower than air. Saying that air is 78% nitrogen is a bogus argument. It's 22% other components. It's those components that are the problem. That's like saying water is part Oxygen, so go ahead and breathe it.

Are you a Nitrogen salesman?

KERMIT · 12-11-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

Nitrogen is not a scam. First year chemistry students can tell you that. Pure nitrogen does not fluctuate as much in presure compared to straight "air". It also doesn't contain the moisture of air, thereby reducing the chance for corrosion of the TPMS, etc.
I have personally tested the differences in pressure fluctuation and it is actually quite drastic.
Pure nitrogen also leaks much slower than air. Saying that air is 78% nitrogen is a bogus argument. It's 22% other components. It's those components that are the problem. That's like saying water is part Oxygen, so go ahead and breathe it.

If you want me to prove its a scam, I can. But I am not going to take the time..

RonRizz · 12-11-2012, 07:22 PM

Water = H2O wonder what the O stands for??

jcosta79 · 12-12-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

Nitrogen is not a scam. First year chemistry students can tell you that. Pure nitrogen does not fluctuate as much in presure compared to straight "air". It also doesn't contain the moisture of air, thereby reducing the chance for corrosion of the TPMS, etc.
I have personally tested the differences in pressure fluctuation and it is actually quite drastic.
Pure nitrogen also leaks much slower than air. Saying that air is 78% nitrogen is a bogus argument. It's 22% other components. It's those components that are the problem. That's like saying water is part Oxygen, so go ahead and breathe it.

No, but if you DRINK it you will oxygenate your blood.

5 Immune System Benefits of Drinking Water / Nutrition / Healthy Eating

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1) Water Oxygenates Your Blood and Flushes Toxins

Drinking plenty of water ensures that your blood will carry plenty of oxygen to all the cells of your body. This means that all of your body's systems will function adequately, because they'll be getting plenty of oxygen. Your immune system functions best when your muscles and organs are functioning best.

Rockcrawler · 12-12-2012, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

Nitrogen is not a scam. First year chemistry students can tell you that. Pure nitrogen does not fluctuate as much in presure compared to straight "air". It also doesn't contain the moisture of air, thereby reducing the chance for corrosion of the TPMS, etc.
I have personally tested the differences in pressure fluctuation and it is actually quite drastic.
Pure nitrogen also leaks much slower than air. Saying that air is 78% nitrogen is a bogus argument. It's 22% other components. It's those components that are the problem. That's like saying water is part Oxygen, so go ahead and breathe it.

pee in a pond. the benefit to hassle/expense ratio is a joke. I race offroad, have my own nitrogen setup for the shocks. guess what's in all my tires. A good friend has a high end tire shop, for many many years.... how many sensors is he replacing due to corrosion? zero. drink the koolaid all u want.

Is it better? yes, is it worth it or needed? hell no. what's it cost the dealers to fill four Z tires? $2-300 in initial equipment and about $2 for each car, if that.

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