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SouthArk370Z 12-17-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scgolfer7 (Post 2063627)
But honestly, I wouln't think much of it since it happens on such a random basis..

Thanks for the reply.

Since it seems to affect all 370Zs, not just those that pulled the SLU fuse, I'm not really worried about it, just a gnawing curiosity. I'm not losing any sleep over it, but would like to know why it happens.

ProfessorDave 12-17-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tonythetiger (Post 2049226)
this only happened to me after i removed my fuse, somewhere around 26,000 miles

It is weird to not hear the unlocking of the steering wheel once you press the start button after the fuse pull. Perhaps it creates the illusion of a delay?

SouthArk370Z 12-17-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave (Post 2063768)
It is weird to not hear the unlocking of the steering wheel once you press the start button after the fuse pull. Perhaps it creates the illusion of a delay?

Reasonable theory, but there is a definite delay. Most ppl are reporting 1-3 seconds. Last time it happened to me, I was reaching to press the button again (thought I may not have pressed the button properly) when it finally started.

DLSTR 12-17-2012 01:36 PM

I blame ethanol :)

scgolfer7 12-17-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2063723)
Thanks for the reply.

Since it seems to affect all 370Zs, not just those that pulled the SLU fuse, I'm not really worried about it, just a gnawing curiosity. I'm not losing any sleep over it, but would like to know why it happens.

In all honesty, I think it is something to do with some kind of software reset, maybe the ECU purges some cache or something; that seems like the most logical thing I can think of.

SouthArk370Z 12-17-2012 02:40 PM

Sounds like one of the better theories to me. My personal favorite is that the system is doing an extra self-test (but that doesn't explain why it only happens some of the time).

A few ppl have reported that the driver door being open for a long time may trip the delay, but I haven't been able to reproduce it.

Maybe someone will come up with the answer, but I'm not holding my breath.

mayday813 12-17-2012 10:27 PM

I experienced the approx. 3 second delay today again. Just got in the vehicle and pressed the start button and the delay occurred. Didn't leave the door open for an inordinate amount of time. I tend to think that SCGOLFER7 may be on to something since the BCM appears to send signals to the ECU to verify some of the system checks. This would explain the diagnostic procedure noted in NTB12-041.
Has anyone had a dealer perform the procedure describe in NTB12-041?

SouthArk370Z 12-17-2012 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mayday813 (Post 2064743)
... I tend to think that SCGOLFER7 may be on to something since the BCM appears to send signals to the ECU to verify some of the system checks. This would explain the diagnostic procedure noted in NTB12-041.
Has anyone had a dealer perform the procedure describe in NTB12-041?

I think what you, I, and golfer are talking about is pretty much the same thing - an extra system startup routine that gets executed for some reason. Whether that is a memory purge or a self-check or something else remains to be seen.

I haven't noticed anyone posting about doing a BCM reflash, but I can't read all the posts.

I just read over NTB12-041 again and I can't tell for sure if the two are related or not. The startup symptoms are the same, but I don't remember anyone reporting that they couldn't shut the engine off with an SLU failure. But I've read a lot of SLU posts and may have flushed that particular piece of info.
It would be interesting to find out if they are related or not. If someone has been unable to shutdown because of SLU failure, I would consider that to be strong evidence for.

luigi90210 12-18-2012 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2048744)
Some ppl have been reporting a short delay between pressing the start button and the engine cranking. So far, no one has been able to figure out what triggers the delay. Does anybody know? Do you have a theory? Please post any answers or guesses.

LMBmikeZ posits that it's the car doing an extra self-check. Sounds reasonable to me, but what is it checking and why doesn't it get checked every time?

probably just going through the usual system checks, checking steering wheel lock and unlocking it, making sure there is fuel in the tank, making sure everything is all good to start without damaging the motor, or ecu delay

its all drive by wire tbh and as much as i like my start button, it just doesnt replace the key-barrel

IDZRVIT 12-18-2012 11:17 AM

If you've pulled the SLU fuse your car won't start after 21 Dec 2012.

JARblue 12-18-2012 12:01 PM

:icon18:

Cmike2780 12-18-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 2065321)
If you've pulled the SLU fuse your car won't start after 21 Dec 2012.

I was told it would explode if you installed a GT-R button.

TheGreatOne 12-18-2012 12:17 PM

lol, funny posts in here

Happened to me a few times, I just figured I didn't hold the button long enough so it didn't crank...but as long as it starts! lol

JohnsZ 12-19-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2048756)
does anyone care? :confused:

Awww....come on Ken, be nice! After all, tis the season! I care and can relate to what the op is saying. I have wondered about this ever since I got mine and to be honest, I do find it annoying at times. At times after holding my finger on the button without it starting, I will take it off just before it was going to start and will have to do it again. It's a minor 370Z annoyance but no less an annoyance. Merry Christmas :tup:

JARblue 12-22-2012 12:12 PM

I FINALLY had the privilege of experiencing this delay after removing my fuse several weeks ago. :icon17: Two full seconds for sure. I don't care that it happens; I'm just curious about why it happens.

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Originally Posted by JohnsZ (Post 2067632)
At times after holding my finger on the button without it starting, I will take it off just before it was going to start and will have to do it again. It's a minor 370Z annoyance but no less an annoyance. Merry Christmas :tup:

:confused: I do not have to hold down the start button to start the Z. You should be able to simply push it once briefly and let go. Usually it begins the sequence as I'm letting off the button or right after, but what I just experienced the other day was I pushed the button quickly and there was a significant delay even after letting off. In fact, during this delay I was able to fully buckle my seat belt before the car started.


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