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Originally Posted by RoshDawg (Post 2062892)

I'm not going to get sucked into a foolish Internet argument. I just ask for you to think for yourself. And cars are not a numbers game. When you get to know them you will understand this. Cheers!

and that is why in my posts i talked about feel being another factor altogether. please read my post thoroughly before assuming.

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Originally Posted by RoshDawg (Post 2062822)

Nicknick, as much as I LOVE the GTR, and I really do love them, you sound pretty darn stubborn.

Car and Driver put the 911 (991) over the 2013 GTR:
2012 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 vs. 2013 Nissan GT-R vs. 2012 Porsche 911 Carrera S - Comparison Test - Car and Driver

Motor Trend put the 911 (991) over the 2013 GTR:
Picking the 2012 Best Driver's Car! - YouTube

Those are the two biggest car magazines I can think of. Does that mean the 911 is better than the GTR? NO. IT DOES NOT. Damn I feel like I'm talking to a wall. You can say, the GTR is better in 0-60, or the 911 has less NVH, but you cannot credibly say that one car is better than the other. You just sound silly.

I wouldnt put a lot of faith in Car and Driver. I have seen some really biased articles in that rag before.

I know and agree CSA. We shouldn't put all whole hearted faith in car magazines. We're not blind sheep!

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Originally Posted by RoshDawg (Post 2062996)

I know and agree CSA. We shouldn't put all whole hearted faith in car magazines. We're not blind sheep!

when the majority of car magazines come to the same conclusion re GTR then to me at least that indicates something right??

As to the blind sheep comment, maybe you put too much faith in car company marketing hype!

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Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 2062727)

OMG! Guys just go onto youtube or read any car mag and you will find/see that the GTR is faster, quicker, has more grip, is faster around a circuit, brakes faster etc. This is not speculation but measured time and time again. So in every performance category that can be measured the GTR is better, and that is a fact. Now, as to "feel" that is another story, as i have said before. So before you diehard porsche fans respond go and do a little research.

Additionally, the 911 platform is considered to be a flawed design, due to the engine hanging out behind the rear axle causing all sorts of lift off oversteer issues, although Porsche through various ways has tamed this trait.

now, lets see what interesting responses i get.

No one argued the GTR wasn't faster. Yes it is faster than a 911. But that doesn't mean it's better.

Please stop your pointless argument. I know you love cars and read lots about them, we all do, thus you don't need to regurgitate stats on cars we are all very familiar with.

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Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 2063026)

My goodness nicknick. This isn't a GTR vs 911 thread. You are right. The GTR has been proved by science to be better than the 911. Anyone who buys one does so because of marketing. After test driving both, I decided to go with the scientifically worse car because the GTR was just too fast for me and was just too good. Damn. Not once have I even commented why I didn't chose the GTR because THIS ISN'T A GTR THREAD. (keep in mind other viewers that I love the GTR) Idk why I'm wasting my time on a kid with a miata who knows jack **** about cars besides some numbers, after reading your old posts you're not even a chill dude (by a long shot) so I really do not wish to continue this unrelated topic with you. You win kid!

Now please, if you're not going to stay on topic, just quit your argumentative blabber. They are both great cars lets leave it at that. Stop trying to make a debate out of everything.

If the Porsche feels better to drive to you then its obviously the better car. If the GTR feels better to drive then its obviously the better car.

They are both fantastic cars so why dont we just close this thread. The dead horse has had the crap beaten out of it