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Turbofan 09-26-2012 07:40 PM

Evo X or 370Z???
 
Hey people. Just looking for some insight on the 370Z.

I'm thinking of trading my Evo X for a 350/370Z. If any of you have owned an Evo or STI your input would be much appreciated.

Power wise the cars are similar. The Evos awd system never ceases to amaze me... but there is something awesome about a well balanced rwd car.

Basically, I'm trying to decide if the 350/370Z will be as much fun to drive.... I would not be modifying it past basic bolt ons.

Thanks for any input.

nismosis 09-26-2012 07:53 PM

I have good friends with a 350 and an Evo VIII. The Evo will spank the 350 all day, but it and my 370 are pretty close. I honestly love the feel of the Evo over my car. He's running only slightly higher boost, all else stock, and it really feels twice as fast as my car. I actually take issue with the feel of my Z. Everyone says that the power is "linear" so it doesn't feel as fast as it really is. At the end of the day, the 370 is a more refined car, and fun to drive for sure, but I miss the put you back in the seat feel.

Red__Zed 09-26-2012 07:55 PM

Have you test-driven one? I'd try to get behind the wheel and see what you think

Do you drive your EVO in winter?

What are you looking for? What do you like about your EVO, and what do you dislike?

cossie1600 09-26-2012 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nismosis (Post 1934060)
I have good friends with a 350 and an Evo VIII. The Evo will spank the 350 all day, but it and my 370 are pretty close. I honestly love the feel of the Evo over my car. He's running only slightly higher boost, all else stock, and it really feels twice as fast as my car. I actually take issue with the feel of my Z. Everyone says that the power is "linear" so it doesn't feel as fast as it really is. At the end of the day, the 370 is a more refined car, and fun to drive for sure, but I miss the put you back in the seat feel.

Funny my 350 had no problem keeping up with Evo 8

JungleZ 09-26-2012 08:27 PM

Evo = boy racer status, way more practical,great in all weather really,awd launch.

Z= Niche car, following the VQ technology a little more beefy a little more sexy but still a Nissan with typical Nissan iffies here and there.

sonic370 09-26-2012 08:29 PM

370 z not the 350

sfearl1 09-26-2012 08:47 PM

Owned a 350z a few years back and wrecked it in winter weather. Bought an Evo X and added Stg 2 mods + tune almost immediately. Enjoyed the whiplash that the boost gave me. But something was definitely missing. It lacked the sexiness of a RWD sportscar. I felt like a boy racer everytime I drove it. I just wasn't happy with it. 7 months passed and I traded it for a 370. I still miss the X from time-to-time. AWD + boost is a blast. But the driver satisfaction wasn't there for me. Let's just say I wouldn't trade my Z for another X :tup:

Snakes709 09-26-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbofan (Post 1934048)
Hey people. Just looking for some insight on the 370Z.

I'm thinking of trading my Evo X for a 350/370Z. If any of you have owned an Evo or STI your input would be much appreciated.

Power wise the cars are similar. The Evos awd system never ceases to amaze me... but there is something awesome about a well balanced rwd car.

Basically, I'm trying to decide if the 350/370Z will be as much fun to drive.... I would not be modifying it past basic bolt ons.

Thanks for any input.

keep the Evo. I had a 370z and now i own a EvoX and love it. Its alot better for our winters here in Canada. Where in Canada do you live.

DLo 09-26-2012 11:24 PM

Depends on what you need it for. I live in SoCal so no snow. I mostly track my vehicles. I owned an 08 EvoX MR, but I felt like the car drove itself (especially with the SST). I decided to take my driving to a different level with my 2012 370z NISMO and love the challenge. Both cars are awesome in their own right, but I must say I am still about 5 seconds slower on the same track. More seat time will remedy that. Good luck on the decision. Can't go wrong.

Mt Tam I am 09-27-2012 09:21 AM

Oh a fresh question, which will bring unbiased answers. IBTL.

Kingbaby 09-27-2012 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 1934136)
Owned a 350z a few years back and wrecked it in winter weather. Bought an Evo X and added Stg 2 mods + tune almost immediately. Enjoyed the whiplash that the boost gave me. But something was definitely missing. It lacked the sexiness of a RWD sportscar. I felt like a boy racer everytime I drove it. I just wasn't happy with it. 7 months passed and I traded it for a 370. I still miss the X from time-to-time. AWD + boost is a blast. But the driver satisfaction wasn't there for me. Let's just say I wouldn't trade my Z for another X :tup:

+10

Truth has been spoken....soulless cars are soulless

M.Bonanni 09-27-2012 10:01 AM

EVO X if: You plan on going to the track at all, you live in an area with snow.

350Z if you: Want a RWD car and you want to go to the track.

370Z for every other situation.

Of course I am assuming that if you are posing this question you have no need for the back seat/trunk space in your Evo.

From a guy who has owned an Evo 8 and an Evo 9 but never an X. Have driven a few though.

bigdog1250 09-27-2012 10:18 AM

370 > 350 for sure. I've owned both and the 370z is far superior. 3 of my buddies had 04-07 Sti's that were heavily modified (FP Green Turbo...) and while they felt really fast, especially from a dig, they weren't. Especially when stock. Also my buddy had a stage 2 Evo 9 and while it's a cool car it still isn't a Z. My buddy tried to pull on me in his 9 and it didn't do much, and that was from almost a standstill. Plus that was before I did any bolt-ons :)

The 370z is a great RWD car and like the others said its super sexy and much more mature than the EVO, though the X is a big step up from its predecessors.

The Z will be plenty quick for you and when you hit the twisties you'll have a hard time wiping the smile from your face.

My dad owns a B7 RS4 and that thing is QUICK but I still prefer my Z in terms of driver satisfaction. I don't think I can ever own AWD cars that aren't SUVs. (Unless the only other option is FWD)

6MT 09-27-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1934640)
Oh a fresh question, which will bring unbiased answers. IBTL.

:iagree: Me too.

jcosta79 09-27-2012 12:13 PM

I've owned 2 350Z's and I had the original WRX when it first came out in 2001 (as an '02 model). The 370Z is a different animal altogether.

Never owned an EVO but I have a friend with a modded EVO IX. Brutal acceleration (he walks me pretty good on a 30 roll), but my Nismo handles better.

Naenyn 09-27-2012 12:20 PM

When I decided I was going to buy a new car, I actually was planning to get a shiny new 2013 Evo. However, when I test drove one, I was surprised by how noisy it was and how underwhelming it felt. I kept thinking back to the automatic (<-- !!!) 370Z I drove earlier that morning and how much more fun it was to drive.

I went in to that test driving day planning to hate the Z and loving the Evo. It ended up being completely the other way around. A few weeks later I test drove a 2011 Nismo and that sealed the deal. Now I have a Nismo on order. :tup:

UNKNOWN_370 09-27-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nismosis (Post 1934060)
I have good friends with a 350 and an Evo VIII. The Evo will spank the 350 all day, but it and my 370 are pretty close. I honestly love the feel of the Evo over my car. He's running only slightly higher boost, all else stock, and it really feels twice as fast as my car. I actually take issue with the feel of my Z. Everyone says that the power is "linear" so it doesn't feel as fast as it really is. At the end of the day, the 370 is a more refined car, and fun to drive for sure, but I miss the put you back in the seat feel.

The push u back in your seat feel is really dependent on when you shift the Z. If you shift in its peak rpm range 2500-5200'ishrpm. Torque will be smooth and seamless. Now shift in the 5500 to 6200 range. When you feel that gear drop into the peak torque range, you gonna get a nice hard jolt. But if you're seemlessly shifting at 4000-4600 rpm for spirited driving. thats linear power.
If you shift above 6200, you will shift into the top end on the max torque range and shifting will be snappy but not jolting, throw back in your seat, but you'll get some sick exhaust roar.
:) Evo's are fun as fukk though. No denying that. FI driving leaves you more satisfied than with v6 NA's. I love the vq though. I find it to be an exceptional v6. But for absolute better engine response. 4&6 cyl turbos or NA V8's are hands down the best at giving that thrust and driving fun.

Red_Z 09-27-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Naenyn (Post 1935070)
When I decided I was going to buy a new car, I actually was planning to get a shiny new 2013 Evo. However, when I test drove one, I was surprised by how noisy it was and how underwhelming it felt. I kept thinking back to the automatic (<-- !!!) 370Z I drove earlier that morning and how much more fun it was to drive.

I went in to that test driving day planning to hate the Z and loving the Evo. It ended up being completely the other way around. A few weeks later I test drove a 2011 Nismo and that sealed the deal. Now I have a Nismo on order. :tup:

same here, but I got a '12 touring Z instead. Performance wise, maybe the EVO is a little better, just a little...but the Z just look better and feel better (material). If 2 seater is not a problem, Z is the way to go.

jcosta79 09-27-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Naenyn (Post 1935070)
When I decided I was going to buy a new car, I actually was planning to get a shiny new 2013 Evo. However, when I test drove one, I was surprised by how noisy it was and how underwhelming it felt.

Any differences on the '13 EVO? I went last month to a Mitsu dealer and all they had were rows of 2012's.

UNKNOWN_370 09-27-2012 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naenyn (Post 1935070)
When I decided I was going to buy a new car, I actually was planning to get a shiny new 2013 Evo. However, when I test drove one, I was surprised by how noisy it was and how underwhelming it felt. I kept thinking back to the automatic (<-- !!!) 370Z I drove earlier that morning and how much more fun it was to drive.

I went in to that test driving day planning to hate the Z and loving the Evo. It ended up being completely the other way around. A few weeks later I test drove a 2011 Nismo and that sealed the deal. Now I have a Nismo on order. :tup:

Really? when i was waiting for my 2011 Z. My dealer was taking so long for a dealer trade. I went to go test drive a BMW 135i and 2012 mitsubishi evo.
Going straight to the Evo test. Luckily my salesguy was a ricer and evo owner... Knowing that i was coming from an 09 Z he let me beat one up.

I was blown away by the Evo's ability. I was exiting a tight highway doughnut exit @ 84mph. At best in the Z, I can pull that donut in the low 60mph range.
Doing that donut in a Z at that speed i'm in full drift. In the Evo, the car is still roadholding... the dual clutch in the EVO was AMAZING. The shifts were so fast and perfect, powerful and aggressive, it outperformed the DCT in the 135i by a landslide. The 135i offered more power to boot, though more seamless and less aggressive than the Evo while feeling a little bit more powerful than the Z.
The sound of the BOV's on the stock engine was amazing. Steering feedback was spot on, nice and firm but the edge on the Z. The Evo X is slightly louder than the Z but it's more exhaust and turbo noise and less engine noise, vs the Z is engine first, then exhaust. Crappy exhaust @ that. My only issue is on the straight, after about 115'ish miles per hour, The power began dropping off like mad. As with the Z, power doesnt drop off till 140ish mph. Give or take 5mph an hour depending on different variables.

My issues with the Evo weren't performance issues at all. Seriously, How often do most of you guys go past 115??? The interior and dash looks chintzy. there was slight interior rattle on bumps which was a unsurprising disappointment considering its a lancer... The seats are comfortable and excellent had positioning but feel forced as far as outward visibility. It's like those seats were too low and the whole car itself was too high. The seat should have been positioned about .25inches higher and the car 1.25" lower. The forward dash was too econoboxish and the materials too $10k'ish for a $44k car.
The evo is the budget supercar and the Z is the budget sports car. The Z looks like a budget supercar and the evo looks like a budget sports car. Between the too as far as looks go... The evo is way more displaced by appearance. This all being my subjective opinion.

Performance wise... I can't see how one could walk away disapponted from either one but... To each his own.:tiphat:

Naenyn 09-27-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 1935129)
Any differences on the '13 EVO? I went last month to a Mitsu dealer and all they had were rows of 2012's.

I think I misspoke. I was looking to buy a 13, but I don't believe I test drove a 13. I honestly don't remember for sure, but I believe it was a 2012 model that I drove.

I even liked the STIs I drove better than the Evo. Was kinda surprised by that. It's all personal preference, though...

Naenyn 09-27-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1935150)
Performance wise... I can't see how one could walk away disapponted from either one but... To each his own.:tiphat:

Maybe my expectations were too high going in to the test drive .. or I was already subconsciously hooked on the Z .. I don't know. I definitely went in to the Z test drive with very low expectations. It really surprised me. I just didn't enjoy the Evo test drive as much, though. However, I didn't push it as much as you did, either. Maybe if I had played with it a bit more...

obito 09-27-2012 01:58 PM

I have never been driving on EVO yet. however, I might say it is kindda difference function here. Evo is 4 doors with turbo, but 370 is NA with coupe. I m a fanboy of EVO, but I would not decide to drive it everyday if I own one. on the other side, I would drive 370 most of the day because It is fun to drive and look outstanding at least more than EVO because EVO most people who do not know especially girls they will think that you are driving a LANCER. with slow speed 370 win to catch attention. however, if you have an EVO, you pride of urself and people will look at you when you drive fast.

lemon-fresh 09-27-2012 02:03 PM

Agreed, you will certainly get more looks in a 370. If you want AWD, handling, cargo space go for the evo. If you want all out speed, there are more affordable options available.

UNKNOWN_370 09-27-2012 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by obito (Post 1935200)
I have never been driving on EVO yet. however, I might say it is kindda difference function here. Evo is 4 doors with turbo, but 370 is NA with coupe. I m a fanboy of EVO, but I would not decide to drive it everyday if I own one. on the other side, I would drive 370 most of the day because It is fun to drive and look outstanding at least more than EVO because EVO most people who do not know especially girls they will think that you are driving a LANCER. with slow speed 370 win to catch attention. however, if you have an EVO, you pride of urself and people will look at you when you drive fast.

P*ssy must play a part in your decision. lol:owned:

lemon-fresh 09-27-2012 02:22 PM

P*ssy plays a part in every decision. ;)

Kamus 09-27-2012 02:39 PM

One of the things that has me wondering if i should've gotten an Evo over my Z is the turbo. And not for the usual reasons. I live in high altitude (~4600 ft above sea level) and just that fact gives me around 10% less HP because the Z is N/A (according to some sources, i hope it's not THAT bad...) I mean, i would have to spend quite a bit of cash just to get it to match a stock Z at sea level.

With a turbo though, the atmospheric pressure doesn't affect performance nearly as much. It's also one of the reasons i don't want an FR-S. I'm sure at sea level the car feels "peppy" but up here it would probably feel downright slow. With a turbo on the other hand, i would get the best of both worlds: Top performance regardless the altitude and if i'm not mistaken, since i am at high altitude, less drag at high speeds.

Telephone 09-27-2012 02:59 PM

Just test drive them both and decide for yourself. [SIGH]

jcosta79 09-27-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Telephone (Post 1935310)
Just test drive them both and decide for yourself. [SIGH]

That's crazy talk right there. Don't you know that making any important decision must now be done by popular vote via an internet forum?

binary0x01 09-27-2012 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 1935367)
That's crazy talk right there. Don't you know that making any important decision must now be done by popular vote via an internet forum?

I second that...

Red__Zed 09-27-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamus (Post 1935291)
One of the things that has me wondering if i should've gotten an Evo over my Z is the turbo. And not for the usual reasons. I live in high altitude (~4600 ft above sea level) and just that fact gives me around 10% less HP because the Z is N/A (according to some sources, i hope it's not THAT bad...) I mean, i would have to spend quite a bit of cash just to get it to match a stock Z at sea level.

With a turbo though, the atmospheric pressure doesn't affect performance nearly as much. It's also one of the reasons i don't want an FR-S. I'm sure at sea level the car feels "peppy" but up here it would probably feel downright slow. With a turbo on the other hand, i would get the best of both worlds: Top performance regardless the altitude and if i'm not mistaken, since i am at high altitude, less drag at high speeds.


FI is the way to go at altitude.

Turbofan 09-27-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 1935367)
That's crazy talk right there. Don't you know that making any important decision must now be done by popular vote via an internet forum?

Hmmm. So you are saying that consulting people that actually OWN the car I am thinking of buying is a bad idea. WOW! You are right! WTF is wrong with me?

nmjaxx9 09-27-2012 04:52 PM

one of my buddies got a Evo and his gf Katherine always bothered him that it was ugly so he quickly changed it to a 350z and now hes planning to get a 370z go figure. :bowrofl:

Tazicon 09-27-2012 04:58 PM

Since you asked on a Z forum I will have to say get the EVO. Why would you ask this on a Z forum? If you ask on an EVO forum you will get a totally diferent answer. Why not drive both, research both in a non-bias manor and make your own decision.

sheps58 09-27-2012 05:24 PM

Get a BMW
 
Get a 3 series with AWD. Mitsubishi is leaving the U S. I love my 370 but you need a 2nd vehicle hen you own a Z.

Dwight Frye 09-27-2012 05:58 PM

Is the EVO X even considered to be a sports car ? Sure doesn't look like one to me and sure doesn't fit the definition of a 2 seat RWD GT.
Apple and oranges

henryy370z 09-27-2012 07:07 PM

Evo is awd so the launch is quicker, twin turbo a 370z and you'll see how many cars you destroy...370z all day looks rwd once it's twin turbo it's beast

jcosta79 09-27-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbofan (Post 1935479)
Hmmm. So you are saying that consulting people that actually OWN the car I am thinking of buying is a bad idea. WOW! You are right! WTF is wrong with me?

First of all, you are on a public forum, so who knows WHAT people on here ACTUALLY own. I could say I own a Veyron and who can argue with me?

Second, what someone else likes and what you like might be two very different things. People who bought the car obviously liked it enough to buy it, but you are a prospective buyer and you need to find out if the car fits YOUR needs and likes.

Asking about problem areas and recalls is one thing, but asking how people enjoy their cars is really just pointless. You are the one that has to live with it so only your opinion really matters in this case.

I mean, what if everyone here said the car was awesome and you just end up hating the car? Who was wrong? Nobody.

Just saying, you need to drive the car and see if YOU like it. Everyone else's opinion should mean nothing to you. :tup:

OH, and whatever you buy, make sure you post pics.

Jsolo 09-27-2012 09:06 PM

If it weren't for the cheap interior and lack of some toys, I'd give the wrx sti serious consideration over the G sedan. Both are at nearly the same price point (new). I think in part, this refinement is what differentiates the comparison. Boils down to what you want to do with the car and what you're looking for.

More refined ----> less refined

G37 --> 370z ---> wrx sti --> evo x IMO.

mantella87 09-27-2012 09:17 PM

370Z. You're not in high school anymore. :driving:


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