I thought so.

Headgaskets!!!!!!!

Yes I did post on both forums as I own my Z still. I just wanted to hear honest opinions about the cars and if others did the same or vice versa. To me I really miss boost and I cant seem to get around it. I will admit I dont like the interior of the base EVO X's but with the sunroof and leather package it really cleans up very nice...esp with the nav. But anyways I wanted to keep the z but I realized that i dont want to spend 18g+ on just the motor for boost just to gain the performance that can be had on an evo x for way less. I love both cars and to each get there own respect. To me they have different appeals but are both relatively same price range with similar stock performance. I got a lot of good knowledge from my friend and member to the forum Birdman. My X shall be here in Jan ill post pics of both cars and keep you updated. Thanks for all of your help.

That's a bit of an overestimate. Not sure how much power your trying to make but, 500whp and 10psi is pretty normal without building the motor. The price jump to get to 600whp and not break anything is considerable though. $6000 for 400+whp and $7k+ for 500whp. and double that to reach 600whp... not including labor

Z unless you need backseats

$6000 for 400+whp? MAYBE for parts but definitely not with professional install and tune. My issue with the Evo other than the barren interior is that (like many 4cyl turbos) at high speeds they feel like they hit a wall. My buddy has the first year 2004 STi and it feels damn slow accelerating end of 3rd and above and he makes 275whp.

Using the boosted performance kit I'd say you can get the Z to 500whp for ~9000. Not too shabby, certainly not as cheap as getting an evo to those numbers but I think the Z's engine would be able to handle the power a bit better.

I've gotta be careful to not spend too much on engine bolt ons with this car, you can very quickly hit the price of a good turbo kit staying NA.

its the torque that's more worrisome than the peak hp, damn you Nissan and your cast internals why couldn't you follow what Honda did with the s2000 and give us kick *** internals.

meh, my engine and I would be more than happy with 450whp/400tq. IMO anything higher and you start having issues using the power effectively.

I totally agree, 450+whp is for dyno shows and bragging rights. Unless you're racing GT500's or Z06's daily I don't see the real point.

Not quite. My Vette had over 500 wheel HP and 450+ TQ. I drove it every day and never had any problems with it. It was ridiculously fast and fun. The acceleration was a rush.

450 RWHP is not an issue.

Building a Vette and building a Z are two different stories. The Vette is a way better platform to build for 500+ hp/tq than the Z. Oh and btw I'm sure its been mentioned but forced induction on the Z will eventually require modifications to the auto tranny, another thing to take into account.

On the z, sure, but a lot of that has to do with the rear suspension geometry.

On a lot of other cars, the range from 450 to 700 or so is huge. That's where you go from "quick" to "holy sh!t"

I think that's basically what we were saying... And yes, I'm sure the mustang can handle that kind of power no problem.

a 450whp Z that is reliable and properly tuned would be bliss. Sure maintenance would be extensive but then again so is any top notch car. All these HP #'s are way more than I need anymore, give me 250+whp and I'll be thrilled.

trust me 450-500 whp on the z was close to 18g for turn key GTM Stage 2 TT kit. I called them and got the price. I want a reliable kit and i think gtm for the z is the best IMHO but thats just me. Im not saying that it cant be had for less but not that much less. With 5-6g plus a tune the evo will be fine 350-400 whp and fast enough for me. I honestly want to see what the next z is going to be all about. my current z will def not be my last im willing to see whats next. I just want to own an evo and give it a shot. plus its the last year they are making it b4 they f*** it all up.

boosted performance turn key kit is 7000 and nets you 500whp (it's also pretty safe and easy to install)... Maybe you should have waited a little longer...

Sorry for the confusion, I was quoting without install/tuning on all estimates listed because then you start taking into account shop prices. Also wasn't including supporting mods such as oil coolers, radiators, powersteering coolers, auto tranny upgrades, clutch upgrades... not required but HIGHLY advised.

X2 a lot of people chase numbers, but its not only your engine but other supporting mods that will make your car durable. :tup:

How so? (Serious question)

This applies to any vehicle.

You start off with more displacement and better engine internals. Vettes are built to handle high amounts for torque better than Z's. Granted some people will likely disagree but I'd feel better about a muscle car designed for high horsepower and torque to start with.

Btw, going forced induction without supporting mods is a stupid idea and will cost you big $ in the long run. You're at the very least going to need an exhaust that matches better with a turbo setup and an upgraded clutch. Also, cooling is always an issue so supporting oil and transmission coolers are a must.

I agree with you on that. I thought people were poo-pooing the idea of 450 RWHP on ANY street-driven car, and that's just not true. You can have a lot of fun with more than 500 RWHP and drive it on the street with no problem. :tup:

If the Vettes didn't depreciate like a rock and had a better interior I would have got one over the Lotus. The depreciation really killed it the ugly interior made me feel better about it. The power is intoxicating but I like being the only Lotus owner around save for a very few than a faceless guy amongst a rather cliche Vette population. I may try again after the c7 comes out and the c6 Z06 depreciates further.

Btw on topic, the Evo X is god awful ugly. Sure it looks semi intimidating from the front view but the rear is hideous. Mitsu is doing the right thing putting that ugly dog to sleep.

the 370z has a fat a$$ :stirthepot:

I looked into that kit and called them. They arent near my area and thats without install and the rest of the supporting mods. Also I want to go with a more reputable company like gtm. they have alot of R&D on nissans and thats the company i feel safest with. But its cool i am getn my evo x now and then later once the new z comes out ill probably build one eventually. I am really interested in what the z35 will be like. or i might just keep both lol.

Just do what I did. Trade your Z in on a loaded 2013 GT mustang !!! HANDSOME!!!!! :stirthepot:

I will not be buying mine until after the first of the year but i was debating a similar situation over the last few weeks, as u can c i have joined the z forum not the evo one lol, i went and drove both and to be honest the evo did seem to perform better, but for me the quality, styling, sound, and potential of the 370 won me over, so id say just go drive both and c if that makes the decision any easier. Also the guy who suggested the mustang makes a good point they are great cars.

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The mustang is a lot of things, "handsome" is not one of them.

But its all about dat booty!
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The EVO is a neat car though, its a baby GT-R to my eyes.

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[QUOTE=mo13007;2021029]I will not be buying mine until after the first of the year but i was debating a similar situation over the last few weeks, as u can c i have joined the z forum not the evo one lol, i went and drove both and to be honest the evo did seem to perform better, but for me the quality, styling, sound, and potential of the 370 won me over, so id say just go drive both and c if that makes the decision any easier. Also the guy who suggested the mustang makes a good point they are great cars.

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I think they each have great potential but for the money I think the evo will suit me better. I own a 2012 PW Nismo 370z Im just waiting for my evo to get here in two months. I think the z will be great to drive around and have fun with but for more performance I think it needs boost. My friend supercharged his 370z and didnt like it, got bored and now is going to TT it. He has spent stupid amounts of money on that car even his amuse body kit was expensive but then again he rolls like that. I could tt my z maybe if this was the last year z i would do it and then keep it, but i will wait until i see that one particular z model that draws me in or i could always get a c6 zo6 and call it a day....but then again something about boost always wins me over.

Boost the Z FTW! :tup:

You will be happy with the evo when it arrives. I cant wait to get mine running in the summer. 2.2L FP Black 600awhp, YEA BUDDY!!