Evo X or 370Z???

Snakes709 · 10-26-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79

My only problem with the Evo is the price. I just don't feel like I'm getting that much "car" for $40K (and that's a base 2012 GSR model!). Yes it has a lot of performance, but there wasn't anything "special" about it to win me over from the Nismo that I eventually bought.

Thats because you havent actually driven the car. The AWC system in it is amazing on the track and in rough weather conditions (ie Snow). Unlike the STi where it detects a wheel slipping and shifts the power to the front or rear wheels, the Evo can shift the power to side to side as well. If need be it will put all power to just one wheel. Thats why they call the evo's at my local track, a "cheater car". But god damn, this car is amazing in the snow. I got back from Afghanistan on Feb 28th last year and didnt bother putting winter tires on the car (first time it seen a winter). So i had pretty close to bald stock summer performance tires on. Even with a good foot or two of snow and driving on the highway, watching all the other cars go into the ditch. The Evo just smiled and kept going.

That is why its 40k and its well worth it. As well as the Evo holds value, unlike the Z. I lost 20k in value in 8 months on the Z. Assuming my engine wasnt blown with almost a year and half and twice as many km's on it. I would only loose about 5k in value on the car.

jcosta79 · 10-26-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakes709

Thats because you havent actually driven the car. The AWC system in it is amazing on the track and in rough weather conditions (ie Snow). Unlike the STi where it detects a wheel slipping and shifts the power to the front or rear wheels, the Evo can shift the power to side to side as well. If need be it will put all power to just one wheel. Thats why they call the evo's at my local track, a "cheater car". But god damn, this car is amazing in the snow. I got back from Afghanistan on Feb 28th last year and didnt bother putting winter tires on the car (first time it seen a winter). So i had pretty close to bald stock summer performance tires on. Even with a good foot or two of snow and driving on the highway, watching all the other cars go into the ditch. The Evo just smiled and kept going.

That is why its 40k and its well worth it. As well as the Evo holds value, unlike the Z. I lost 20k in value in 8 months on the Z. Assuming my engine wasnt blown with almost a year and half and twice as many km's on it. I would only loose about 5k in value on the car.

Who said I never drove the car? I've driven Evo's with 400 WHP. They are stupid fast and they corner very well (my Nismo handles better, though obviously not in bad weather) but the car itself is just too plain.

At the end of the day it's really just a souped up $15K Lancer. Yes, the performance is awesome, but it doesn't "push my buttons" like a true sports coupe does.

If the car were closer to $30K I would be all over it. At $40K+, I looked elsewhere. Just my opinion and personal taste. Not hating on the car.

Magic Bus · 10-26-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakes709

That is why its 40k and its well worth it. As well as the Evo holds value, unlike the Z. I lost 20k in value in 8 months on the Z. Assuming my engine wasnt blown with almost a year and half and twice as many km's on it. I would only loose about 5k in value on the car.

Evo's are cool but how'd you lose $20K in 8 months on a Z?

Snakes709 · 10-26-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus

Evo's are cool but how'd you lose $20K in 8 months on a Z?

My Z was 8 months old, 16,500km on it. Non - smoker and abit of cosmetic damage (approx $5000 so they said). I pad $43,xxx for my Z (im in canada, we pay more for cars) and they gave me $24,000 trade in.

Magic Bus · 10-27-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakes709

My Z was 8 months old, 16,500km on it. Non - smoker and abit of cosmetic damage (approx $5000 so they said). I pad $43,xxx for my Z (im in canada, we pay more for cars) and they gave me $24,000 trade in.

Ouch! Sucks to be Canadian, eh!

jcosta79 · 10-27-2012, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakes709

My Z was 8 months old, 16,500km on it. Non - smoker and abit of cosmetic damage (approx $5000 so they said). I pad $43,xxx for my Z (im in canada, we pay more for cars) and they gave me $24,000 trade in.

Epic Fail.

So somehow your $5K worth of body damage translates into the Z losing too much of its value vs. the Evo?!?! I wouldn't pay top dollar for a banged-up car either, I don't care if it's a Ferrari! Plus, you are calculating your loss based on what a dealer wanted to give you for it on a trade-in. That's the lowest possible market value out there.

I love the logic of some people.

Snakes709 · 10-27-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79

Epic Fail.

So somehow your $5K worth of body damage translates into the Z losing too much of its value vs. the Evo?!?! I wouldn't pay top dollar for a banged-up car either, I don't care if it's a Ferrari! Plus, you are calculating your loss based on what a dealer wanted to give you for it on a trade-in. That's the lowest possible market value out there.

I love the logic of some people.

$5k worth of damage, still left $15k lost in value. The Z doesnt hold its value, period. The Evo's do. But whatever I didnt really care. At that point i just wanted to get rid of the Z. I would have traded it in even if i was only getting $10k for it.

Tazicon · 10-28-2012, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakes709

$5k worth of damage, still left $15k lost in value. The Z doesnt hold its value, period. The Evo's do. But whatever I didnt really care. At that point i just wanted to get rid of the Z. I would have traded it in even if i was only getting $10k for it.

EVOs hold their value? I really think you got that backwards but I could be wrong. Z's hold their value better than most cars, you find out as soon as you look for a used one.

I would consider buying a used Z but not a used EVO. I know how EVO owners treat them! lol

Snakes709 · 10-28-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazicon

EVOs hold their value? I really think you got that backwards but I could be wrong. Z's hold their value better than most cars, you find out as soon as you look for a used one.

I would consider buying a used Z but not a used EVO. I know how EVO owners treat them! lol

and you think Z's are treated any better? I can go in the city right now and buy a used one for under 30k now.

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Nissan/37...howcpo=ShowCPO

18,xxxkms on it and 29k. Thats about $13,000 drop in value on a 09 with only 18,xxxkms

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Nissan/37...howcpo=ShowCPO
2009 Evo 85,000kms and still $36,000. Thats a $4000 drop in value for a 09 with 85,000kms

I own/owned both cars, dont sit there and tell me the Z holds more of a value then the Evo...lol. Mitsubishi's are famous for holding their values.

houkouonchi · 11-02-2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakes709

That is why its 40k and its well worth it. As well as the Evo holds value, unlike the Z. I lost 20k in value in 8 months on the Z. Assuming my engine wasnt blown with almost a year and half and twice as many km's on it. I would only loose about 5k in value on the car.

Wait, wait, wait...

Am I understanding this correctly? Are you saying the engine was blown on your 370z?

Snakes709 · 11-03-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by houkouonchi

Wait, wait, wait...

Am I understanding this correctly? Are you saying the engine was blown on your 370z?

No, i ment my Evo