Evo X or 370Z???

NYBladeZ

$6000 for 400+whp? MAYBE for parts but definitely not with professional install and tune. My issue with the Evo other than the barren interior is that (like many 4cyl turbos) at high speeds they feel like they hit a wall. My buddy has the first year 2004 STi and it feels damn slow accelerating end of 3rd and above and he makes 275whp.

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lemon-fresh

Using the boosted performance kit I'd say you can get the Z to 500whp for ~9000. Not too shabby, certainly not as cheap as getting an evo to those numbers but I think the Z's engine would be able to handle the power a bit better.

I've gotta be careful to not spend too much on engine bolt ons with this car, you can very quickly hit the price of a good turbo kit staying NA.

NYBladeZ

its the torque that's more worrisome than the peak hp, damn you Nissan and your cast internals why couldn't you follow what Honda did with the s2000 and give us kick *** internals.

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lemon-fresh

meh, my engine and I would be more than happy with 450whp/400tq. IMO anything higher and you start having issues using the power effectively.

NYBladeZ

I totally agree, 450+whp is for dyno shows and bragging rights. Unless you're racing GT500's or Z06's daily I don't see the real point.

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2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

jcosta79

Not quite. My Vette had over 500 wheel HP and 450+ TQ. I drove it every day and never had any problems with it. It was ridiculously fast and fun. The acceleration was a rush.

450 RWHP is not an issue.

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Red__Zed

On the z, sure, but a lot of that has to do with the rear suspension geometry.

On a lot of other cars, the range from 450 to 700 or so is huge. That's where you go from "quick" to "holy sh!t"

lemon-fresh

I think that's basically what we were saying... And yes, I'm sure the mustang can handle that kind of power no problem.

NYBladeZ

Building a Vette and building a Z are two different stories. The Vette is a way better platform to build for 500+ hp/tq than the Z. Oh and btw I'm sure its been mentioned but forced induction on the Z will eventually require modifications to the auto tranny, another thing to take into account.

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jcosta79

How so? (Serious question)

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NYBladeZ

You start off with more displacement and better engine internals. Vettes are built to handle high amounts for torque better than Z's. Granted some people will likely disagree but I'd feel better about a muscle car designed for high horsepower and torque to start with.

Btw, going forced induction without supporting mods is a stupid idea and will cost you big $ in the long run. You're at the very least going to need an exhaust that matches better with a turbo setup and an upgraded clutch. Also, cooling is always an issue so supporting oil and transmission coolers are a must.

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jcosta79

I agree with you on that. I thought people were poo-pooing the idea of 450 RWHP on ANY street-driven car, and that's just not true. You can have a lot of fun with more than 500 RWHP and drive it on the street with no problem.

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NYBladeZ

a 450whp Z that is reliable and properly tuned would be bliss. Sure maintenance would be extensive but then again so is any top notch car. All these HP #'s are way more than I need anymore, give me 250+whp and I'll be thrilled.

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SS_Firehawk

Sorry for the confusion, I was quoting without install/tuning on all estimates listed because then you start taking into account shop prices. Also wasn't including supporting mods such as oil coolers, radiators, powersteering coolers, auto tranny upgrades, clutch upgrades... not required but HIGHLY advised.

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nmjaxx9

X2 a lot of people chase numbers, but its not only your engine but other supporting mods that will make your car durable.