Piggyback ecu

xnismo370zx · 09-04-2012, 12:01 PM

All I have is the full hks hi power catback exhaust system... I was thinking of putting a stand alone management system, piggy back need more info and help.

MattP725 · 09-04-2012, 03:52 PM

First off I'm not sure if you want a stand alone or piggy back... they are both entirely different. Secondly you will have issues since stand alones don't support VVEL. A piggyback generally could leave VVEL intact however I fail to see any benefit as you are very lightly modded (and probably still wouldn't with heavy modding). The best thing for our cars is UpRev. Piggybacks are IMO for cars without any real quality tuning options. Standalones are for full race cars since they are very difficult (advanced) to tune and still probably not necessary/recommended on a 370.

edub370 · 09-04-2012, 04:07 PM

just use uprev and keep it simple

seymore4 · 09-04-2012, 08:51 PM

agreed.

KERMIT · 09-04-2012, 09:15 PM

MoTeC m880

http://www.motec.com/m880/m880overview/

seymore4 · 09-04-2012, 11:41 PM

^ like a boss

370Z Purist · 09-05-2012, 01:03 AM

Unless you're a Nissan engineer who knows exactly how VVEL works, you'll pay top dollar for a good standalone and it will sit there doing nothing, just looking pretty and doing what the stock ECU would be doing. Standalone engine management is good for motors for which there exists no stock mapping, such as hybridized EJ motors (251 NA heads on the FI blocks like the 257) in Subaru's, where the flow pattern is so high the ECU has no idea what is going on, especially when it was programmed for comparatively poor flowing turbo heads. I've heard you can do the same thing with the 35HR heads on the 37. That might warrant a standalone, if you also slap on a twincharged setup and run custom cams.

Generally speaking, standalone engine management is probably best left for race cars.

xnismo370zx · 09-06-2012, 10:22 AM

uprev I will have to check in and do some research on that one lol at the ^ NISSAN ENGINEER part

IDZRVIT · 09-06-2012, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KERMIT

MoTeC m880

MoTeC > M880 > Overview

They're selling cheap on eBay for $6300. Grab one before they sell out!

Jordo! · 09-06-2012, 03:24 PM

Best bet, given available tuning options, would be UpRev.

09-04-2012, 12:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
xnismo370zx Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Louisville Ky Posts: 85 Drives: 2009 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 14	Piggyback ecu All I have is the full hks hi power catback exhaust system... I was thinking of putting a stand alone management system, piggy back need more info and help. __________________

09-04-2012, 04:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 20	just use uprev and keep it simple __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

09-04-2012, 09:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
KERMIT Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Republic of Wadiya Posts: 301 Drives: Ms. Daisy Rep Power: 13	MoTeC m880 http://www.motec.com/m880/m880overview/ Last edited by KERMIT; 09-04-2012 at 09:17 PM.

09-05-2012, 01:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 19	Unless you're a Nissan engineer who knows exactly how VVEL works, you'll pay top dollar for a good standalone and it will sit there doing nothing, just looking pretty and doing what the stock ECU would be doing. Standalone engine management is good for motors for which there exists no stock mapping, such as hybridized EJ motors (251 NA heads on the FI blocks like the 257) in Subaru's, where the flow pattern is so high the ECU has no idea what is going on, especially when it was programmed for comparatively poor flowing turbo heads. I've heard you can do the same thing with the 35HR heads on the 37. That might warrant a standalone, if you also slap on a twincharged setup and run custom cams. Generally speaking, standalone engine management is probably best left for race cars. __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

09-06-2012, 10:22 AM	#8 (permalink)
xnismo370zx Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Louisville Ky Posts: 85 Drives: 2009 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 14	uprev I will have to check in and do some research on that one lol at the ^ NISSAN ENGINEER part __________________

09-04-2012, 03:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
MattP725 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 1,904 Drives: 2010 40th Rep Power: 17	First off I'm not sure if you want a stand alone or piggy back... they are both entirely different. Secondly you will have issues since stand alones don't support VVEL. A piggyback generally could leave VVEL intact however I fail to see any benefit as you are very lightly modded (and probably still wouldn't with heavy modding). The best thing for our cars is UpRev. Piggybacks are IMO for cars without any real quality tuning options. Standalones are for full race cars since they are very difficult (advanced) to tune and still probably not necessary/recommended on a 370.

09-04-2012, 08:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
seymore4 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: West coast Age: 41 Posts: 555 Drives: 2010 nismo Rep Power: 6726	agreed.

09-04-2012, 11:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
seymore4 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: West coast Age: 41 Posts: 555 Drives: 2010 nismo Rep Power: 6726	^ like a boss

09-06-2012, 03:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	Best bet, given available tuning options, would be UpRev. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.