Thank you :)

He doesn't sound very reliable at all. He sounds like a journalist playing the part of a car expert. He's the TMZ of car reviews.

Forbes Contributor Profile Matthew de Paula

How hot is the temp you are out driving in? I ask because I am driving around 105 degree weather plenty often and I run those temps in my non oil-coolered 2009. You shouldn't be seeing those numbers so if you are, I would suggest having it looked at because that is just weird.

What kind of driving are you doing? :confused: This summer wwhen Chicago had 105/110 days I Would drive for an hour mixed highway and off highway and would never see the temps past 225 on my 2010. The only Time it goes to 240/250 is when doing prolonged spirited runs holding Rpm past 5k

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It's been well established that there is a wide variance in the operating temps for different z's. I've seen some run hot, and some run cool...likely due to natural variation within tolerances

I didn't know that, :tiphat: just seems strange there is such a large variance.


All I hope with these types of reviews is that it doesn't hurt the value if our cars. We as mostly happy owners Don't care for reviews anymore and "smart" shoppers don't just read reviews but research and ask questions on forums like this one.

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I love my Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Me too!:happydance:

I'm a late bloomer to this article but this is laughable. Has anyone had a steering lock,oil consumption issue since 2010. I'm on 2 Z34's and a G37s... non have had an issue. The whole C&D thing... I think is a bad reflection of the magazine and not the car.
Fuel starve to me is something of concern till this day. the Z manual transmission seems to be extremely quirky and not the best feeling.
But the Z auto and Z manual should be judged differently as well... More auto's seem to run a little bit cooler, have slightly lower NVH, are more reliable, and obviously faster. I'm sure this offsets some of the issues that are found in the manual.

Either way, The Z is still far from a junk car and most unreliable Z's have been found on stock street Z's being tracked. Though this car is track-able with mild mods. without those mods, on a track it may not belong? Depending on who's driving.

If you're going to track the car. add the right tid-bits it needs. Otherwise, the Z is very reliable as an aggressive street car. PERIOD. There's better cars out there but for the money, the Z doesn't do too shabby.

Just like the 90's imports. People won't appreciate these cars till they are gone. the Z is still
1. The fastest NA-v6 under 40k (quarter mi. 13.1-13.4sec)
2. Has the most grip/widest tire under 40k (.99-1.01g)
3. Most powerful 2 seater under 40k (332/350hp)
4. Near-perfect 100.4" wheelbase & 53/47% weight dist.
5. Under 3300lbs in base guise pre-2012. under 3400lbs post 2012
6. Only car to have proprietary and popular SRM feature on a manual.
7. Fastest 60-0 braking with sport pkg. 102ft

The Z is no BRZ in weight but the next lightest v6 is the gencoupe and then the mustang. The gencoupe 2.0, which is a 4 banger still is heavier than a Z @ 3400lbs and the mustang v6 3500lbs.

Why isn't all of this mentioned in magazines? CORPORATE POLITICS!!!

It's likely just a phase, the 370 was the cool kid on the block a few years ago. I'm sure once nissan FINALLY retires the platform opinions will change.

I know they will. It's the hypocritical way of american journalism.

Agreed, and it sucks because it can hurt resale value. In my area an 09 370 will sell for roughly the same as an 11 5.0. I'd like that kind of trend to continue.

:bowrofl: completely agree. Okay, maybe being bias isn't the best word... how about post-purchase rationalization :ugh2:
But don't get it twisted, I love my Z and the Z's I had before this one.
I just don't like it when there is one neutral or bad review and people freak out. F*** the reviewer, he's probably a C+ journalism student.

I don't freak out cuz I know the Z and its capability. When I hear negatives from acquaintances reading car mag literature. I can change there mind with offering them 10 minutes in the passenger seat. What pisses me off though is, we're in a country where people instantly believe anything read in a popular magazine without knowledge or testing of a product.
It kills Z sales which can affect us in the future. It's things like this that drop car value, Make Nissan cancel or NOT export the Z for sale in America, or it makes people lose interest in wanting to enter the sports car world in general.

This sums up my opinion perfectly. Well said. biggest issue like You said Is sales and what Nissan does because of that

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Well everyday I get on the forum and somebody is Having a problem with their car. Mostly the transmission

Better buy a Mustang then, their transmissions are F-L-A-W-L-E-S-S. :tup:

If you guys think journalists are tough on the 370Z, you should be glad you don't own a Corvette.

Ouch.

Yeah, and also, I looked at a Corvette forum one time and people were complaining about the roof flying off, transmissions failing, door handles coming off, dealers giving them the runaround on repairs...

I guess my point here is that if you read forums you'll see that all cars are terrible pieces of crap that you should never buy... All of them.

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That is wierd. I have never heard of this, nor know of anyone with a Z that runs substantially cooler or hotter than the rest of us. :ugh2:

Everybody reports something different.


It's even covered earlier in this thread:rofl2:

When my Z says it's running a temperature, I break out the anal thermometer just to be sure.

dammit zdayz was weird

But no one overheated, and that's the important thing :roflpuke2:

Even if they dont hate the Z. BUt they'll find things to pick on it.

I've driven quite a few sports cars and found horrendously annoying things about them. I know many others that complain about the same things. But they aren't really stressed in the reviews. If the Z has a 4inch long piece of plastic on the lowest part of the console that you can't see and looks cheap? That piece of plastic will get 2 paragraphs in a review of negativity. The whole FR-S interior is pretty chintzy, yet no one cares to stress it in summary length monologues.
When I see shyt like that, I have to call corporate politics. Remember, the Nissan corp is probably the only japanese car company that doesn't have a "Direct-Alliance" with an american automaker. They almost had one with dodge for the titan. But the auto-bailouts killed it. So now they have the Daimler contract instead. hmmmmm???? USA, angry for not sharing Nissan secrets with american companies? I have yet to see an american car with any type of DRM/SRM or serious dual clutch. Maybe they need help from Nissan and Nissan isn't helping? Maybe Nissan doesn't want American Corporations digging deep in there pockets and destabiling there Euro-Asian way of doing business???
And maybe the corporations are mad at that? Maybe they are using the car mag reviewers they have in there pockets to write trash articles on the Z??? Bad halo car press affects all models to some degree. Hitting the halo is the kick in the balls...

Mitsu, toyota, honda and mazda are all linked to american automakers. Subaru shares a lot of technology. Nissan isn't big on sharing with american companies and are always secretive in there business dealings toward the american market. I call "corporate american jelly".
BEFORE PRESUMING FANBOYISM...
I'm not saying there isn't any realism to most of the Z's issues. But other cars never get this much bad press when there are cars with more issues. BMW, Audi, Mitsubishi and hyundai have seen more reliability issues in there sports cars. Where's the laundry list on there complaints??? Just keeping it real.

Not saying you guys are wrong, but some of you are true fanboys

besides the 100,000 dollar gtr what is nissans secret?Theres really nothing special about using the same vq in most their cars, and making little sentras and versas will always be there as a choice but most people know Honda and Toyota for better reliability and resale.

Too True. The Z isn't the best car of all time.

That would be a morgan.

Word up. I traded in a 2008 335i convertible for a brand spanking new Z. That Bimmer was a real Bummer as Barry Weiss might say... It was in the shop four times in five months. Anybody know how much a brake job on a BMW cost? $1,500 per axle! Oil change: $150! Crappy run flat tires and endless bent rims: $1,000 per wheel.

My Z gets way more compliments than all of the cars that I have ever driven combined. The oil temps hover between 180 and 230 degrees-- big deal. My car is my daily driver, so I don't worry about an oil cooler. Plus, the brakes work great, in fact, the Z scores high versus similar sportscars on braking quickness tests.

There are some trade-offs: cramped cabin, hard to get in and out of the car, loud engine at higher rpms, road noise, crappy stereo, and no back seat. I can deal with these shortcomings, as I can pick up a used sedan anytime for cheap as a second car.

Hondas and Toyotas are synonymous with BORING. I had a 1995 Camry. Great car. Ran like a Swiss clock, but boring as can be. That car never put a smile on my face. How many cars are as fun to pull the wheel hard and floor it as the Z. It's a sexy and reliable drift king!

:ugh2:

BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Jaguar, Landrover, etc., etc. will kill you when they break down. My BMW had something like seven onboard computers and four catalytic converters, plus an idiotic cooling system. Fancy-scmantzy, but more or less overpriced/overvalued garbage. Why the hell do you think that most of these cars are leased or traded in or sold before the warranty runs out. Im perfectly happy with my 370Z built in Japan with GTR pride!

The magic envelope makes everything possible. I bet with the right dough a bicycle can even top the Z.:tup:

Hey guys i drove the car hard as hell today and the temps stayed at 220:tup:

Speed bumps in my parking structure are brutal, but im getting thumbups and stares from guys in Maseratis,CTS-V, M3,C63 AMG's... It feels good man for a 32K car.

:iagree: i paid about that for mine, and I've enjoyed the performance as well as the compliments I've received. It's fun to own

Been in a BMW before but driving the Z given the performance and sports car feel nothing compares probably the closest one is the Cayman but with a 20K difference on sticker. Its a no brainer.

Matthew de Paula wanted to be an automotive journalist ever since reading his first car magazine in grade school. After a brief stint writing about finance, he helped launch ForbesAutos.com and became the site's editor in 2006. Matthew now freelances for various outlets.

Big *** B.S site editor. At least should drove all those cars before even think to write down anything. Retards