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brucelidat 09-03-2012 01:31 PM

Anyone know what the pros and cons are for the torsen vs. a quaife?

Red__Zed 09-03-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 1899877)
Anyone know what the pros and cons are for the torsen vs. a quaife?

the quaife is a torsen

brucelidat 09-03-2012 01:42 PM

oops, i thought we were referring to a brand, haha, ok.

Red__Zed 09-03-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 1899889)
oops, i thought we were referring to a brand, haha, ok.

I guess technically Torsen is a brand, but it's a bit like Kleenex or Band-aid, in that everyone refers to helical diffs as torsens.

TypeOne 09-04-2012 10:15 AM

Interesting....

bigsix 09-04-2012 05:42 PM

An honest review. Nissan makes a brute type of car w/ power and torque.

Huck 09-04-2012 10:30 PM

I'm just glad he wasn't blindly bashing it like most people seem to have been doing in their reviews lately.

UNKNOWN_370 09-05-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Huck (Post 1901867)
I'm just glad he wasn't blindly bashing it like most people seem to have been doing in their reviews lately.

You know whats wrong with car magazines today. Car guys don't test cars. journalists do. Corporate sponsored drones who test cars based on a one sided spectrum vs the universal spectrum of the automotive industry.

So if a guy loves Camry's? He expects the z to have 6 cup-holders. If he loves Cadillac's...Why doesn't the z have 12 memory power seats? If he loves Mustangs... Why can't the Z have a V8... This isn't car reviewing.

Are they basing a car on its talents or your bias interpretation of a sports car. It's ok for a reviewer to express his preferences in order for the consumer to relate to the driver and understand why he would prefer a, lets say, "Mustang" over a Z. But it's another to compare the cars as if they serve the same performance purpose, when they don't.

At least mustang has camaro and challenger to show up. The genesis coupe can go 10k upmarket and battle the G37 and 3 series. In a way, the 2.0 and FR-S doesn't match but makes more sense due to them being priced equally and both being RWD 4 seat coupes.
The Z has no competitor in its class and can only be compared the Porsche Cayman S, Boxster and BMW Z4 over $20k upmarket, double what the gencoupe deals with.... They can say the others are more refined but can't say they outperform the Z. So the Z needs to be underdogged by near non-competitors in order to keep the corporate sponsors happy. The Z is too unique in its price-point and other car companies are to scared to make a real competitor. Imagine GM's version of a Z? Or ford? Dodge maybe? lol.

The vette is something else... Japanese couldn't make a vette... Americans can't build a Z. And you can't review them like they are one of the same. BUT that's what american/british magazines do.

WE NEED TO GET CAR GUYS BACK IN THE CAR MAGS.

Huck 09-05-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1902513)
You know whats wrong with car magazines today. Car guys don't test cars. journalists do. Corporate sponsored drones who test cars based on a one sided spectrum vs the universal spectrum of the automotive industry.

So if a guy loves Camry's? He expects the z to have 6 cup-holders. If he loves Cadillac's...Why doesn't the z have 12 memory power seats? If he loves Mustangs... Why can't the Z have a V8... This isn't car reviewing.

Are they basing a car on its talents or your bias interpretation of a sports car. It's ok for a reviewer to express his preferences in order for the consumer to relate to the driver and understand why he would prefer a, lets say, "Mustang" over a Z. But it's another to compare the cars as if they serve the same performance purpose, when they don't.

At least mustang has camaro and challenger to show up. The genesis coupe can go 10k upmarket and battle the G37 and 3 series. In a way, the 2.0 and FR-S doesn't match but makes more sense due to them being priced equally and both being RWD 4 seat coupes.
The Z has no competitor in its class and can only be compared the Porsche Cayman S, Boxster and BMW Z4 over $20k upmarket, couble what the gencoupe deals with.... They can say the others are more refined but can't say they outperform the Z. So the Z needs to be underdogged by near non-competitors in order to keep the corporate sponsors happy. The Z is too unique in its price-point and other car companies are to scared to make a real competitor. Imagine GM's version of a Z? Or ford? Dodge maybe? lol.

The vette is something else... Japanese couldn't make a vette... Americans can't build a Z. And you can't review them like they are one of the same. BUT that's what american/british magazines do.

WE NEED TO GET CAR GUYS BACK IN THE CAR MAGS.

You should go test cars for a living. :tup:


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UNKNOWN_370 09-05-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Huck (Post 1902574)
You should go test cars for a living. :tup:


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Thanks. lol:tiphat:

Huck 09-05-2012 12:15 PM

And then take me for a ride in all the nice ones. Hahha


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Streetlife 09-05-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1902513)
You know whats wrong with car magazines today. Car guys don't test cars. journalists do. Corporate sponsored drones who test cars based on a one sided spectrum vs the universal spectrum of the automotive industry.

So if a guy loves Camry's? He expects the z to have 6 cup-holders. If he loves Cadillac's...Why doesn't the z have 12 memory power seats? If he loves Mustangs... Why can't the Z have a V8... This isn't car reviewing.

Are they basing a car on its talents or your bias interpretation of a sports car. It's ok for a reviewer to express his preferences in order for the consumer to relate to the driver and understand why he would prefer a, lets say, "Mustang" over a Z. But it's another to compare the cars as if they serve the same performance purpose, when they don't.

At least mustang has camaro and challenger to show up. The genesis coupe can go 10k upmarket and battle the G37 and 3 series. In a way, the 2.0 and FR-S doesn't match but makes more sense due to them being priced equally and both being RWD 4 seat coupes.
The Z has no competitor in its class and can only be compared the Porsche Cayman S, Boxster and BMW Z4 over $20k upmarket, double what the gencoupe deals with.... They can say the others are more refined but can't say they outperform the Z. So the Z needs to be underdogged by near non-competitors in order to keep the corporate sponsors happy. The Z is too unique in its price-point and other car companies are to scared to make a real competitor. Imagine GM's version of a Z? Or ford? Dodge maybe? lol.

The vette is something else... Japanese couldn't make a vette... Americans can't build a Z. And you can't review them like they are one of the same. BUT that's what american/british magazines do.

WE NEED TO GET CAR GUYS BACK IN THE CAR MAGS.

:iagree:

hadokenuh 09-05-2012 02:39 PM

UNKNOWN_370's points are valid and convincing.

Telephone 09-05-2012 08:44 PM

I thought it was a fairly accurate review. The guy praised the Z's good qualities while pointing out some of its shortcomings. Overall, a positive review.

Then again, who cares.

JungleZ 09-05-2012 08:47 PM

Japanese couldn't make a vette... Americans can't build a Z."

Thats a very interesting great quote Unknown. Makes you appreicate both cars and the passion.


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