2015 speculation

Magic Bus

Just curious, anybody care to share the dimensions of the original 240Z?

lemon-fresh

google "240z dimensions"

first result

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Always works. Google is magically magical.

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Bick

Just guessing and grasping on available information... but my gut tells me the new Z may be straight inline 6, smaller compression with turbo option. They can still drop a couple hundred pounds, granted they will drop some HP but gain torque, making it a wash with the 370 but faster acceleration. This also goes back to the 240 original 6 inline straight.

What ya guys think? It's kind of an in-between, but they can probably price it low to mid 30's base, and mid 40's to 50 with turbo.

Base model would be spanking any turbo 4 popper, and put it within reach of equivalent sport v6's for less than 10-50k.

zguynate

What makes you think Nissan will do a straight 6?

I for one hope they dont offer more than one engine. That makes things that much harder to find parts for later on. Also no 2+2. Thats a waste because everyone knows that the back seats are useless.

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lemon-fresh

I'd also like only one (good) engine choice. Lack of an "affordable" offering makes things a little more exclusive. I dont need to see a Z in every household, see mustang.

Magic Bus

Funny guys

Now that I have time to look it up, thought the stats of 2 sportscars back in the day, might be interesting.

1969 240Z Stats:
Wheelbase 90.7"
Length 163"
Width 64"
Height 50.5"
Weight 2,302 lbs
161 hp, 146 tq

1969 Corvette
Wheelbase 98"
Length 182.5"
Width 69"
Height 47.8"
Weight 3,091
300 hp, 380 tq

The Iconic 1969, 240Z was a small, light and relatively underpowered car. Yet it became a car everyone loved. Just food for thought.

ZMan8

why I am disappointed with the FRS:

Length 166.7 inches
Width 66.9 inches
Height 51.2 inches (excluding antenna base)
Wheelbase 101.2 inches
Track (Front) 59.8 inches
Track (Rear) 6.6 inches
CURB WEIGHT 2737 lb
Maximum output 200hp @ 7,000 rpm
Maximum torque 151 lb.-ft. @ 6,600 rpm

Only 6 more ft lbs of torque

The classic Z was iconic because it was a simple, no nonsense sports car. light, with enough power to keep you happy. In 1969 161 hp was a lot, especially with that weight.

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UNKNOWN_370

Though I agree with you and probably 95% of the forum agrees

NOT EVERYONE in the general public will... camaro's and mustangs sell because they have USELESS back seats. If you can squeeze two kids under the age of 10 in a backseat? A Husband can justify his purchase to his wife.
Now we all know, in a mustang, there's no way in hell you will fit 2 adults comfortably in the backseat. And the camaro may leave a little more headroom but... where are the legs supposed to go??? 2+2 sells because you can do "something" with the area, whether its kids or junk storage.
You are talking from a performance drivers standpoint. The Z doesn't sell well because out of 45000+- units sold over the years. 7500 went to enthusiasts. 15000 went to. Z admirers and 22,500 sold to married men, mild life crisis guys, and retiree's getting there last breath on a nice sports car before they can't drive anymore.

The market has to be expanded. If you sell it as a 2+2, you will have an extra 25,000 units sold to some idiots who wants to throw his claustrophobic kid in the back and call it a split family and performance car all at the same time, while his kid is getting hooked on ativan's so he can survive the ride. I see mustang owners doing it every day.

Suggestive advertising in america outpowers common sense. Give an american consumer half an excuse to justify a sports car purchase to his family (ie backseats & automatic) He's on it like stink on dodoo. And in the end, these cars are built to sell. Nissan figures the enthusiasts can modify what they don't like. As long as the platform is good for the track? They can still sell to enthusiasts.

zguynate

Well put good sir.

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scruffydog

I completely agree with you although I don't like the idea of a 2+2 for the Z. From the get go the Z was meant to serve the purpose of being a driver's car and it served well. I never thought the Z was meant to drive people around to meant to be convenient to everyday life chores. Sadly, these are the justifications some need to own a car as such. It is a luxuary to own an impractical like the Z. In the end of all this, as much as i enjoy seeing very few of these around the streets, I like to hope Nissan is able to continue pouring money into R&D for the next Z. As an automanufacturer, they have a lot more fire to put out to make it a likeable company while staying profitable. A lot of times if it means 90% of the market are in for a car that can do more than just taking corners fast and look sexy, more emphasize will have to put towards those cars. In Nissan, the Z is what people would "want" but less than 1/4 of those people actually pull the trigger to buy. Unless it's used or what not. Even the Nissan Maxima commercial tells the story that way....you guys remember that TV commercial where they stretched the 370z into a Maxima? Sad to say, that car pretty much borrowed most of its visual cues and technology from the 370z. Do I hate the fact that Nissan made our cars less unique because of it? Hell yes! But that's how it goes if it's bread and butter.

And you're prolly right about Nissan not spending much money on revising the 370z. It's limited bandwidth. It's not a high priority. So what if Nissan made a 370 hp boost from the last revision and reduced the 0-60s from 5.0 sec to 4.3 sec? Sure I'm super excited about it, because it can compete with the 135i and other V6s. But in terms of sales, it's not a big deal. Plus, Nissan have the GT-R to defend the brandname. (Which is why more development is put towards that car). They say when GT-R first came out in 2009, the sales was over 5000 units sold, and last year it dropped down to 500 something.

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