THe X is pretty nasty however it picked up a few pounds. The 9 has the luxury of mivec and truly is the last "evo." Very easy and cheap to mod. I dont need to go bankrupt to make big power out of that car. Its in the shop rite now getting a meth kit. We are hoping for 420-450 whp, stock turbo, stock block.The 370z is an improvement in every way over the 350, plus its sexy. It takes more money to mod the z but its a nice rear wheel drive platform.

My girlfriend loves the z, but the evo is just raw.

I cant realy compare the two cars since they are meant for different purposes. The evo is nasty out of the hole, and makes a ton of torque with the 16g. The z waits till it revs up to make some power, but it revs surprisingly high and makes good power through the whole power band. Both cars handle very well but the evo makes u feel more confident with the awd system, and the z is fun getting sidewayzz.

If u could only have one which would u choose? I gonna assume the Evo just because of the extra space and comparable performance.

u said it for me but, i like both for different purposes.

According to every shop, time attack driver, etc. that's driven both a IX and X will tell you that the X is every bit as much an Evo as the IX and is more capable on track than the IX is.

Remember, Evo VI owners said the same thing about the VII when it came out.

I hope your not running 30psi all time cause that head stud is not enough to keep your engine from Kabooming! I'm sure if it's your daily drive you would be pushing around 22psi on 91-93octane.

Explain why.

PS: I daily drive, auto-x, and hit 30psi on a daily basis. Please teach me something about my Evo that I haven't learned from the past 3+ years of owning it and building it since it had 2.3 miles on the clock.

I have pointed this link to my tuner Jon at HB Speed in Fountain Valley, CA. Jon is one of the premier tuners in Southern California. He has tuned a large percentage of the west coast Time Attack cars out here. I'm sure he'd be happy to shed some light on this topic of whether 30psi on an FP Red with stock internals and only ARP headstuds will hold up.

P.S. Running 30psi on pumpgas...do you beat your girlfriend as well??? Cuz that's just a mean thing to do to your motor!!!

Can't wait :tup:

And yes, when my wife doesn't have my sammich ready after work I put my wife beater on and kick her around while she's on her hands and knees scrubbing my floor. :ughdance:

Tony (is running 30psi by my tuner's suggestion)

pump gas eh?
 

hahah, who said he^ was running pump gas? i dont remember seeing that being anhywhere. and being an evo owner myself (one who is soon to have an FP RED running similar similar boost) I could tell you that he isnt running pump... unless its with a meth injection kit.
race gas or E85 FTW
im saving to have my evo tuned on E85 by september with some nice mods,

4G63 Evos can handle 550whp on stock block for sure. ARP head studs just to keep the head in place, many many evo owners have been running these numbers for a good period of time on there evos.

and as far as the 8/9 vs 10 goes......
ya the X is fast, yes it handles well, but it did not evolve from the previous model..... new chassis, new engine, new looks, no EVOLUTION TOOK PLACE.
stock for stock the 9 beats the 10 on the track its proven.


(and for everyone wondering why an evo owner is on the Z forums, I plan on buying one soon i have always loved them and the new nismo 370z in black has me sold)

Um... I said I'm running pump gas. 30psi on 92oct to be exact. No knock. Great DLL numbers (haven't had a chance to hit a dyno and still haven't finished tuning the AFR, so there's still a little power left on the table).

Like I already said... the X IS an evolution of the IX. It's like saying the VII wasn't an evolution of the VI (which is somewhat true, lol) or the IV wasn't an evolution of the III. It's a better all around car... there's no arguing that. There's no arguing that it's better on the track than a IX... anybody that's ran both at any kind of event will tell you this. Of course it's not as fast/quick as a XI on the drag strip, but that's a moot point since drag racing is NOT what the car was built for.

I'm glad your motor is still running strong...just be VERY careful.

This taken from Forced Performance's website:

Forced Performance Turbochargers: FP RED Turbocharger Evo IX

"The FP Red turbocharger for the EVOIX is the only stock format turbo capable of delivering 550+whp with some examples recording over 600whp. Typical installations of this turbo result in mid to upper 400's on pump gas and mid to upper 500's on race gas depending on ambient temperature and related mods to the car in question. Typical boost threshold is about 3700RPM with some cars spooling up slower or faster depending on camshaft selection and other variables. The turbocharger should be operated at 22-24psi on pump gas and about 30-35psi spike dropping to 25-27psi by redline in race gas applications."

My cause for concern on this has stemmed from my conversations with Robert Young at Forced Performance. I am sponsored by Forced Performance with my STi and had considered the RED for my build before I had built internals. He strongly swayed me away from that as for both the EVO and STi with stock internals. Even with Cosworth internals, I upgraded my Green to the HTA Green and I run 100 octane plus meth!!!

I have seen 3 evo ix's go "Kaboom" in the last 3 months out here using the Red with stock internals (with race gas) pushing 30psi!

And as far as the Evo 7-9 vs X on track...i have driven them all on track...X is faster hands down.

Nice ride their EVO killr'. Might need a little more juice to take out a EVO................

The numbers stated on FP's site are halfway correct... in order to get mid-400s to the wheels it takes more boost than they say (on pump). That's where I'm at right now (460/381 according to DLL) at 30psi. 30psi with race gas would put way more power down than I'm making due to the differences in tuning the AFRs and timing (which I'm sure you know). The torque they're making over me is going to have a huge effect on the internals. Also, the turbo can be run upwards of 40psi on race (which is what it took for them to run 9's on it I believe).

Just as a safety precaution I do plan on upgrading my rod bolts because I want to push it futher on the stock internals (plan on running an Aquamist kit after I get back from Korea next year).

What they suggest for race gas is exactly what I'm running for pump (30psi tapering to ~26-27psi by 8k). There's MANY Evos running as much boost as I am with no issues... hell, there's plenty of Evos running bigger turbos and as much boost as me on pump and stock guts with no issues. It's all tuner dependant.

The Op has left the building lol

el oh el

I don't know how, but your telling me you do all this while keeping it daily driven. Something doesn't sound right...? It sounds like your raggin the crap out of the motor at 30psi on 92 octane and it keeps running, huh? How the hell is that possible, I can barely run 26psi without a few knocks on 93oct. Unless, your 92oct is like race gas in disguise even so running those kind of numbers on a stock motor with 92octane will put much stress on the internals and well it should've blown sometime ago. What evo's are you talking about that run 30psi on straight octane all the time I would like to know because I haven't heard of any. If you were on race gas it would be more believable.:confused:

my bad, somehow skipped that. either way still FP RED FTW. and if you can run pump with that boost then great job with the tuning.

on the other note my issue with the X still stands. NEW chassis, NEW engine. all previous evos had same chassis and engine. they just kept evolving into better performing machines. body was a minor change before.

It's all in the tune brother.

There's been MANY chassis changes since the beginning. The ONLY major difference between the X and the rest is the engine. Which, BTW, is fairing VERY well.

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I sure do miss my red :shakes head:

mitsubishi designed a nice engine. however the engine is really the only upgrade.
Jspec evo 9's have the active yaw control that the X has over here.

so if your brought an evo 9 from over there to here the 9 would spank the X even harder on track.

Fail.

I'm really sick of correcting people that post idiotic misinformation. This is how people get dumber. Please stop.

correct me if im wrong but didnt the 370z get a better time on the top gear track then the evo x?

if thats the case then i would consider the z an evo killer. straight line racing doesnt count, anyone can press the gas pedal on the car and go straight.

Don't know what your implying here but i seen this guy go to a gas station and put normal 92 pump. he doesnt want to drive all the way in downtown just to get some 100 oct..

Not to be a buzzkill - but the Evo X runs EXTREMELY rich from the factory... X + cobb AP = goodbye Z lol... however - the Z still is much more fun / involved to drive and I would never go back to computer aided AWD ... its a little worse than a video game imo lol

but that doesnt really answer my question.

does the evo x get a better time on the top gear track then the 370z?

stock vs stock

No, the Z beat it by .72 seconds (which could have easily been in the Evo's favor if they would've launched it).

Tony (isn't salty at all)

^^ oh geeze.....another penile measuring contest.

your just taking him too seriously.

Lol... dude you cant seriously argue w/ me about this... I have owned both the cars hahaha... honestly even leaving the bad launch aside - the MR would have probably made up that time w/ the shifting... so lets call it even on that front... Spend 2k on that car and it will be in the 1:23 range easily... Im just saying you are underestimating it... and stock vs stock does not mean jack...

Shabarivas is right Mitsubishi jacked up on the factory tune on the Evo X, sucks that i have to fork up 400 dollars to get my car tuned the way it was suppose to be tuned in the factory. Avg EVO X dyno at about 220-240, with a stock tune i've seen evo x jump up to 284 awhp.
I say this if you want sexy great looking and a nice performing sports car out of the box get the 370z, but mod for mod there's only a few cars that can match the potential of the evo x specially this new e-85 tune GST motorsports are doing a with basic bolt ons and a 950cc injectors i've seen a evox get 364 awhp 360wtq and that was their first e85 tune on the X with a couple more months of r&d I won't be surpise if they get more HP out of those tune.

BTW i saw my first 370z on the road today, damn those things looks so sexy must be a chick magnet, compare to my **** magnet evo x.

Ok, so the Evo X has a crappy tune out of the box. Well, if you've read any of the journals here (semtex's, DannyGT's, RCZ's, DDM, TravisJB, to name a few) you'll find that the Z has a very restrictive exhaust/air flow. DDM's only had the HFC + CBE from BERK and it made 312whp. I forget what the baseline was but I'm sure it was around the low to mid 170s (correcty me if I'm wrong DDM). So that's like a 35-40whp gain....just from the headers back.

I'm not nockin the EVO. That was my other consideration, believe me. I just happened to pick the Z over the EVO for it's looks and the better bang for the buck. Sport package Z comes with soo many nice features as we all know by now.

I love 370z's, but I own 2 Evo's so this is an interesting topic for me.

Care to put that name of yours to a friendly exhibition around the track? ;)

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http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w...ildPics002.jpg

Wow thats gorgeous!!! I bow down to the turbo....

Don't get me wrong I LOVE the Evo's. Hell my names Lance... as if I shouldn't be driving a Lancer Evo. It's just my experience trying to buy one that made the Evo Killer...

Would love to race though......

Ryan, are you by chance coming to Socal for the Redline Time Attack Finals in November with Sharif?

I'd love to see how the two of us would compare on this high speed track! :driving:

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That Evo looks all business, love it. Might have sold me on the wheels too.

Sexyyyy. Are those ame tracers on the blue evo?

Thanks ;) I'm just giving you a hard time. I love 370s, and enjoy a nice Z vs Evo competition/discussion.

AME TME-02. I also have a set of CE28N Flat Black which are my favorites ;)