Road rage

Bucketlist2012 · 07-05-2012, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing

The cop said to fight him if he tries to do something again, which is totally legal IF OP feels threatened and can't retreat.

But if he sees the loser, then follows the loser, then gets out of his car and then confronts the loser, who then is now the aggressor ?

Our Z car buddy...

If the loser confronts him, I agree with you.

But you cannot use a gun against a can of tea...

And I am no lawyer, and yes, I live in California, where things are all screwed up, and the criminals have the rights...

MattP725 · 07-05-2012, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucketlist2012

But if he sees the loser, then follows the loser, then gets out of his car and then confronts the loser, who then is now the aggressor ?

Our Z car buddy...

If the loser confronts him, I agree with you.

But you cannot use a gun against a can of tea...

And I am no lawyer, and yes, I live in California, where things are all screwed up, and the criminals have the rights...

AKA George Zimmerman/Treyvon Martin who is now facing life in prison for persuing someone instead of letting the cops handle it. Even if he happens to beat the charge, he will live in fear for the rest of his life.

happytheman · 07-05-2012, 01:07 PM

Damn dude, that guy wasted a perfectly good can of tea.

It sounds like the police officer was really cool. I know they can be...it's just so often they are a$$holes.

Anyways, sorry that had to happen to your car. I'm hoping you catch up with that dude some day.

DarkJak · 07-05-2012, 01:08 PM

Wow the guy seems like an ******* for wayyy overreacting in the situation. I hope he doesn't try something stupid, like keying your car later on.

That's the bad part about our cars too. There are so few around most places that people can tell exactly which car yours is. It makes me have to drive more cautiously, since a lot of people see me driving around and several have commented on it.

JohnsZ · 07-05-2012, 01:15 PM

Sorry to hear that. If you're like me, I know how much I pamper my car and something like this would really get to me. There are a lot of people in the world who LOVE to prove that they were right and everybody else is wrong. It's a control issue and they're everywhere. Granted you were wrong and you know that but that didn't justify this guy throwing a can out his window at you which at any speed turns into a weapon. That's what they have horns for. Honk and move on! I had a similar issue when I had a Toyota pickup and this guy behind me thought I was going too slow and when he passed me, he threw a glass bottle at my truck but fortunately very little damage was done. It was late at night and I couldn't get his plate number. My many years of old man wisdom says let these creeps go. You never know what they're liable to do. All you can do is call the cops. Thats why we have insurance. Here's another example of these types of people. I was in Walmart one day and at the checkout line, I decided I didn't want the carrots that I had put in my cart. So knowing it wasn't a big deal and they would not go bad, I placed them on one of those candy/magazine shelves just before the conveyor belt. This guy who also was a customer behind me says "hey...those your carrots"? Another words he was saying to put them back, don't leave them there. I didn't respond to him but actually picked them up and gave them to the checkout lady. But that day which happened about 3 years ago will always stick in my mind. My way of internally dealing with people like this is to tell myself that they must be so unhappy with their lives that they need to display their righeousness and holier than thou, attitude. Moral of your story....tread lightly in dealing with strangers. It's a crazy world!

Jasonle · 07-05-2012, 01:20 PM

Thanks man appreciate the help. lol carrots.. something bad always happen at Walmart.

kenchan · 07-05-2012, 01:35 PM

sorry to hear. i have a gopro mounted in my car not for road rage, but idiot bicycle ridors that dont obey traffic sign or ride single file in areas that are specified. someday they will hit my car and try to blame me. well, i have footage.

you can also get dash cams too. i recommend you get one especially if your ride is a hobby car. even if there are no events to report, you have cool footage of your car.

Jasonle · 07-05-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

sorry to hear. i have a gopro mounted in my car not for road rage, but idiot bicycle ridors that dont obey traffic sign or ride single file in areas that are specified. someday they will hit my car and try to blame me. well, i have footage.

you can also get dash cams too. i recommend you get one especially if your ride is a hobby car. even if there are no events to report, you have cool footage of your car.

Haha I kinda want to get one of those Gopro actually. Especially the dash cam.

kenchan · 07-05-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasonle

Haha I kinda want to get one of those Gopro actually. Especially the dash cam.

it's worth it.

fun to watch too.

Mt Tam I am · 07-05-2012, 01:50 PM

Years ago a similar enough story. When the guy took off, before the cops arrived, I pulled out my house key and held it agaist his car hard. As he sped off, a deep gouge was left down the right side of his car. (Normally I do hate keying of cars)

I hope they catch your fukc bag.

MattP725 · 07-05-2012, 01:45 PM

It is always a good idea to aknowledge that you f'd up when you accidentally cut someone off... simply waiving and moving over to let the person pass is a good gesture. People are human and if I know someone is rightfully sorry for making a mistake I wouldn't take it out on them.

Additionally you really want to refrain from following people (and cutting them off/blocking them in) after an incident... he could very well have the same CCW or even be illegally carrying. Get a description of the vehicle and a plate if possible and let him go or at the very least give him a fair amount of distance... a scratched fender and a misunderstanding isn't worth a criminal record, a night in the hospital or the loss of your life.

I had a drunk driver hit me from behind and take off... I called the police while following and once i got the plate they told me to stop following... if he runs and causes an accident that hurts someone you can be held partially at fault for pursuing.

I question your local PD if they don't recommend the same and in addition they suggest you might want to carry a weapon in the future. I get that you have a right to defend yourself but an iced tea can doesn't require lethal force.

Sorry to hear about your bad luck...

JohnsZ · 07-05-2012, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattP725

It is always a good idea to aknowledge that you f'd up when you accidentally cut someone off... simply waiving and moving over to let the person pass is a good gesture. People are human and if I know someone is rightfully sorry for making a mistake I wouldn't take it out on them.

Additionally you really want to refrain from following people (and cutting them off/blocking them in) after an incident... he could very well have the same CCW or even be illegally carrying. Get a description of the vehicle and a plate if possible and let him go or at the very least give him a fair amount of distance... a scratched fender and a misunderstanding isn't worth a criminal record, a night in the hospital or the loss of your life.

I had a drunk driver hit me from behind and take off... I called the police while following and once i got the plate they told me to stop following... if he runs and causes an accident that hurts someone you can be held partially at fault for pursuing.

I question your local PD if they don't recommend the same and in addition they suggest you might want to carry a weapon in the future. I get that you have a right to defend yourself but an iced tea can doesn't require lethal force.

Sorry to hear about your bad luck...

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-05-2012, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattP725

It is always a good idea to aknowledge that you f'd up when you accidentally cut someone off... simply waiving and moving over to let the person pass is a good gesture. People are human and if I know someone is rightfully sorry for making a mistake I wouldn't take it out on them.

Additionally you really want to refrain from following people (and cutting them off/blocking them in) after an incident... he could very well have the same CCW or even be illegally carrying. Get a description of the vehicle and a plate if possible and let him go or at the very least give him a fair amount of distance... a scratched fender and a misunderstanding isn't worth a criminal record, a night in the hospital or the loss of your life.

I had a drunk driver hit me from behind and take off... I called the police while following and once i got the plate they told me to stop following... if he runs and causes an accident that hurts someone you can be held partially at fault for pursuing.

I question your local PD if they don't recommend the same and in addition they suggest you might want to carry a weapon in the future. I get that you have a right to defend yourself but an iced tea can doesn't require lethal force.

Sorry to hear about your bad luck...

I definately agree with Matt. But I have extended feelings about this... You cut the guy off. And you show no gesture of apology. I would be hella pissed. What bugs me too is how everyone wants to call a cop the second they're scared. And everyone wants to pull a gun as well. Why so scared to squabble??? Afraid of getting your face busted in, in a fistacuffs? Then be more careful when you drive. And if you make a mistake? A quick peace sign and lipping the word sorry fixes everything. But you didn't do that sooo.... hey shyt happens.
Me personally, I'm sick of azzhole drivers and calling the police wouldn't stop me from bashing someones face in. And carrying is a whole other level. Remember that if you're in a right to carry state. You're not the ONLY one. So be prepared to shoot-out.

I say, be careful, and when you make a mistake? Be courteous. If not? Suffer the consequences and don't whine over it.

Jasonle · 07-05-2012, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I definately agree with Matt. But I have extended feelings about this... You cut the guy off. And you show no gesture of apology. I would be hella pissed. What bugs me too is how everyone wants to call a cop the second they're scared. And everyone wants to pull a gun as well. Why so scared to squabble??? Afraid of getting your face busted in, in a fistacuffs? Then be more careful when you drive. And if you make a mistake? A quick peace sign and lipping the word sorry fixes everything. But you didn't do that sooo.... hey shyt happens.
Me personally, I'm sick of azzhole drivers and calling the police wouldn't stop me from bashing someones face in. And carrying is a whole other level. Remember that if you're in a right to carry state. You're not the ONLY one. So be prepared to shoot-out.

I say, be careful, and when you make a mistake? Be courteous. If not? Suffer the consequences and don't whine over it.

Yeah I agree with you man. I was wrong I should of waved sorry or something. But i didn't. But it's over I guess. First time ever dealing with something like this. Thanks for the feedback guys.. ill know what to watch out for in situations like this

Jasonle · 07-05-2012, 01:53 PM

Yeah it was bad and it was during traffic time. While I was on the phone with the police she told me to stay in my car and not get out... by then he was at my window yelling and hollering. Oh we'll. I just wished I got his temp tag number down...

07-05-2012, 01:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
happytheman A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 10,737 Drives: MB 6M Tour/Sport Z34 Rep Power: 1823	Damn dude, that guy wasted a perfectly good can of tea. It sounds like the police officer was really cool. I know they can be...it's just so often they are a$$holes. Anyways, sorry that had to happen to your car. I'm hoping you catch up with that dude some day. __________________ --Brantly-- *PowderCoating by Mike/Stillen/PWJDM/Shine Auto/NST* GTR/Michelin /Fast Intentions/Evo-R/Mobil 1/Motul/Z1 https://facebook.com/CentralFloridaZClub

07-05-2012, 01:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
JohnsZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 374 Drives: '09 370Z Tour CY M6 Rep Power: 15	Sorry to hear that. If you're like me, I know how much I pamper my car and something like this would really get to me. There are a lot of people in the world who LOVE to prove that they were right and everybody else is wrong. It's a control issue and they're everywhere. Granted you were wrong and you know that but that didn't justify this guy throwing a can out his window at you which at any speed turns into a weapon. That's what they have horns for. Honk and move on! I had a similar issue when I had a Toyota pickup and this guy behind me thought I was going too slow and when he passed me, he threw a glass bottle at my truck but fortunately very little damage was done. It was late at night and I couldn't get his plate number. My many years of old man wisdom says let these creeps go. You never know what they're liable to do. All you can do is call the cops. Thats why we have insurance. Here's another example of these types of people. I was in Walmart one day and at the checkout line, I decided I didn't want the carrots that I had put in my cart. So knowing it wasn't a big deal and they would not go bad, I placed them on one of those candy/magazine shelves just before the conveyor belt. This guy who also was a customer behind me says "hey...those your carrots"? Another words he was saying to put them back, don't leave them there. I didn't respond to him but actually picked them up and gave them to the checkout lady. But that day which happened about 3 years ago will always stick in my mind. My way of internally dealing with people like this is to tell myself that they must be so unhappy with their lives that they need to display their righeousness and holier than thou, attitude. Moral of your story....tread lightly in dealing with strangers. It's a crazy world! Last edited by JohnsZ; 07-05-2012 at 01:46 PM.

07-05-2012, 01:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jasonle A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 3,509 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 26	Thanks man appreciate the help. lol carrots.. something bad always happen at Walmart. __________________ 2009 Nissan 370z/2003 Honda Soccer Van Shineauto Amuse Body Kit/UAM Fenders/Bc Br Coilovers/Topspeed Exhaust/Racing Hart Wheels and More My Sexy Beast

07-05-2012, 01:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mt Tam I am A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California Posts: 10,709 Drives: 370Z T/S/N 6MT & XKE Rep Power: 3844	Years ago a similar enough story. When the guy took off, before the cops arrived, I pulled out my house key and held it agaist his car hard. As he sped off, a deep gouge was left down the right side of his car. (Normally I do hate keying of cars) I hope they catch your fukc bag. __________________ "Does the carpet match the drapes? NO!!! I don't date bald women." Nissan Motorsports 34R Oil Cooler. Stillen CBE. Hotchkis Sport Sway Bars. KW Variant 3 Coilover System. Stillen Gen3 CAI. Michelin Pilot Super Sport. Stillen Brake Ducts. Carbotech™ XP10/XP8 Pads. Z1 Front Rotors. Z1 Stainless Brake Lines. Two degrees of camber

07-05-2012, 01:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
Jasonle A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 3,509 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 26	Yeah it was bad and it was during traffic time. While I was on the phone with the police she told me to stay in my car and not get out... by then he was at my window yelling and hollering. Oh we'll. I just wished I got his temp tag number down... __________________ 2009 Nissan 370z/2003 Honda Soccer Van Shineauto Amuse Body Kit/UAM Fenders/Bc Br Coilovers/Topspeed Exhaust/Racing Hart Wheels and More My Sexy Beast

07-05-2012, 01:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
DarkJak A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 1,397 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 16805	Wow the guy seems like an ******* for wayyy overreacting in the situation. I hope he doesn't try something stupid, like keying your car later on. That's the bad part about our cars too. There are so few around most places that people can tell exactly which car yours is. It makes me have to drive more cautiously, since a lot of people see me driving around and several have commented on it.

07-05-2012, 01:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	sorry to hear. i have a gopro mounted in my car not for road rage, but idiot bicycle ridors that dont obey traffic sign or ride single file in areas that are specified. someday they will hit my car and try to blame me. well, i have footage. you can also get dash cams too. i recommend you get one especially if your ride is a hobby car. even if there are no events to report, you have cool footage of your car.

07-05-2012, 01:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
MattP725 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 1,904 Drives: 2010 40th Rep Power: 18	It is always a good idea to aknowledge that you f'd up when you accidentally cut someone off... simply waiving and moving over to let the person pass is a good gesture. People are human and if I know someone is rightfully sorry for making a mistake I wouldn't take it out on them. Additionally you really want to refrain from following people (and cutting them off/blocking them in) after an incident... he could very well have the same CCW or even be illegally carrying. Get a description of the vehicle and a plate if possible and let him go or at the very least give him a fair amount of distance... a scratched fender and a misunderstanding isn't worth a criminal record, a night in the hospital or the loss of your life. I had a drunk driver hit me from behind and take off... I called the police while following and once i got the plate they told me to stop following... if he runs and causes an accident that hurts someone you can be held partially at fault for pursuing. I question your local PD if they don't recommend the same and in addition they suggest you might want to carry a weapon in the future. I get that you have a right to defend yourself but an iced tea can doesn't require lethal force. Sorry to hear about your bad luck...

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